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Jim@BAWS
09-01-2007, 08:27 AM
WOW.

Believe it or not I actually went to the Nautique site last night. Read alot of posts and saw many of TMC members commenting on there. Not going over there and raising cain or causing problems. I openly
posted who I was and everything. Posted 2 Nautiques FORSALE
2007 220 TEAM AIR and a 86 2001 Ski Nautique. Those postings have been removed. WOW I guess they don't know I have owned NEW Nautiques myself from 92-94 when we had dealer issues here in Tampa.

I hope that our moderators are not that strict.

No I an not switching...just interesting. You might want to read up on the Nautique dealer in Charlotte NC WOW WOW WOW

Jim@BAWS

BriEOD
09-01-2007, 08:49 AM
They must not realize what a great personality you have!8p

Farmer Ted
09-01-2007, 09:33 AM
Thanks for reminding me I have a profile over there Big Jim!

Haven't posted since Oct '03

Leroy
09-01-2007, 09:47 AM
I would say the mods are asleep letting that letter from the dealer on the board! Not the place for that.

bkhallpass
09-01-2007, 10:28 AM
Jim,

I've been a member of the other site for 3 years now, as I own the other brand. Over that time, there has been a lot of discussions as to whether dealers could post boats for sale on the site. I don't know where that stands, but I would guess that the posts were removed because you are a boat dealer posting a boat for sale. Jeff, the moderator there is a good guy. If you send him a PM I'm sure he'll tell you what the deal is.

I haven't been able to read the note from the CC dealer as it shows up too fuzzy on my screen. However, I'm not surprised it remains up. The pn site is a private site, not funded or maintained by the manufacturer as is your tmc site. As such the discussion has always been tolerant of the good the bad and the ugly of the CC brand. BKH

Jim@BAWS
09-01-2007, 11:49 AM
PRIVATE RUN SITE...I am not a contributer. He is right I am not.
But veryu strange to be booted off. Heck the boats I was offering where awesome

Jim@BAWS


Inbox :: Message
From: NautiqueJeff
To: Jim@BAWS
Posted: Sep 01, 2007 - 09:55 AM
Subject: Re: TOPIC REMOVED
Jim@BAWS wrote:
Just curious...Came over to your site. I have seen alot of the same folks on Team MC. Why did you remove my FORSALE ADS?

Did I cause a problem

Jim@BAWS Tampa FL


Hi Jim,

We generally do not allow dealers to post boats for sale, especially if they do not contribute any other useful information to the site.

Jeff

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Correct Craft -- Chessie Marine -- WatersportsWebcasts

2007 Air Nautique 236 <-- For Sale!!
2003 Super Air Nautique 210 <-- Former Boat
1994 Ski Nautique <-- Former Boat

shepherd
09-01-2007, 07:04 PM
I guess if you posted some "useful information" sometimes, they'd cut you some slack? Oh well, "my house, my rules"... :cool:

Jim@BAWS
09-01-2007, 07:22 PM
I guess ny USEFUL info would be...These customers traded in there
Correct Crafts for a MasterCraft because...

Oh well you can't blame a guy for trying

Jim@BAWS

BriEOD
09-01-2007, 07:27 PM
I imagine they are a good group of people just like we are. I still like Jim even though he drives a GMC. ;)

MarkP
09-01-2007, 09:22 PM
Ok, I just got back from BAWS and think I see the problem.. I personally donít think those two boats are that nice.. That old one looks like my last boat, 86 2001..

Every time I visit BAWS I do spend a lot of time lusting over that black 03! Shweeeet!!

T Scott
09-01-2007, 10:22 PM
I would say the mods are asleep letting that letter from the dealer on the board! Not the place for that.

Here is a link to a copy of that letter. I agree Leroy....the mods over there must be asleep!

http://www.planetnautique.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=9539&sid=82bbff25687fc7638209fc8c47f13431

Hoosier Bob
09-01-2007, 10:25 PM
Correct Craft has a web site? I never made the connection?:o

Can you post porn?;)

shepherd
09-01-2007, 11:24 PM
Here is a link to a copy of that letter. I agree Leroy....the mods over there must be asleep!

http://www.planetnautique.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=9539&sid=82bbff25687fc7638209fc8c47f13431

Wow, that's interesing! I assume they sell several other brands so the loss of their CC business is no big deal to them.

Friend of mine has an '07 196 Nautique and it is nice. I wonder what kind of "liquidation" deals these guys in NC have?

Leroy
09-01-2007, 11:55 PM
I've found the CC sight has good info and not a lot of activity. The Bu site has more activity and more info on boarding/skiing. Seems to be a younger group on average. Both sites are nice and full of passionate boat owners just like us....well except for a certain dealer.....

PendO
09-02-2007, 12:54 AM
jim, in part of that thread it references them as becoming an MC dealer ... is that accurate?


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General Nautique Discussion - Nautique Quality questioned by dealer

04-211-DSJ - Sep 01, 2007 - 12:40 AM
Post subject: Nautique Quality questioned by dealer
This thread started as a new dealer in Charlotte, but I figured not as many people would click so I am starting a new one with this heading. People should not miss out on this. My scan is readable after clicking and zooming in. Is there any credible evidence out there to substantiate these strong allegations? What does Correct Craft have to say about such a harsh letter?
nautique95 - Sep 01, 2007 - 03:41 AM
Post subject: RE: Nautique Quality questioned by dealer
Of course they are going to want CC to look bad considering they are the new Mastercraft dealer! What a poor way to drum up business for their new line! I don't know the situation, but it wouldn't be the first time that a dealer has been dropped by CC for whatever reason and the dealer tries to make it look like that they dropped CC!! There are always two sides to a story!
NautiqueJeff - Sep 01, 2007 - 03:44 AM
Post subject: RE: Nautique Quality questioned by dealer
Wow, those are some strong accusations! As we all know, Correct Craft builds a great product and stands behind it. Some of the things written in that letter do not sound like the Correct Craft that I know, and I am not sure that everything in that letter is entirely truthful. Several key points in the letter sound questionable to me. As stated above, are we really sure that they dropped Correct Craft? I would guess that it might be the other way around.
Kenv - Sep 01, 2007 - 04:04 AM
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Jeff,

I just read the letter and yes, several points may be questionable but I believe the letter is correct in some ways. The quality has really taken a turn for the worse. Just look at some of the pictures people post where their seats are WAY off in the positioning. I think CC has gotten really sloppy. I saw it on my 2000 Super and I see it on my 2005 226. I shake my head sometimes and say "You have got to be kidding that you can't see how off this is or how could a worker have let that long of a screw pop through the seat!!!!! My 6 year old has better attention to detail then THAT."

Honestly, reading that letter, I really don't think CC dropped them, I believe what the letter says. Yes, there my be two sides to the story and I'd like to hear more about this case. I really don't think they are trying to make CC look bad, just state the truth.

Who knows, maybe I'm wrong.

Ken
lztat573 - Sep 01, 2007 - 04:23 AM
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I was a little disapointed the other day also when i took what I would call the trash can cover off to get to my heater, and found a screw not even atatached. no hole for it no fiberglass behind it to even attach it to and the screw just hanging on for dear life hoping not to fall out. there should be some kind of temp plate when they are attaching things so it gets in the right place and gets anchorded everywhere. that has not been the only thing I have came across. Don't get me wrong Im still a CC fan and it will take a lot to change that, but if i can go buy a new truck and the fit and finish is that much better for the same amount of money then I think somthing is wrong. I understand that fiberglass and gel coat are not cheap but come on.
Spud - Sep 01, 2007 - 05:53 AM
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I have no problem with that letter!!! (personal experience boats could be finished and Quality controlled a whole lot better before reaching a customers hands)
Having said that it would still take alot to change from a correct craft
Mikeski - Sep 01, 2007 - 08:05 AM
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What I find funny is that they are a Centurion dealer, talk about sloppy construction...
clubmyke - Sep 01, 2007 - 04:26 PM
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my boat mechanic mentioned this about nautique as well mastercraft, bu, and others...

he said said the boats built from 2001-2004 were some of the best constructed boats compared to the latest and greatest...

this seems like a catch 22, the newer models have awesome layouts and amenities(spinner racks, zero off) but arent as well constructed...
Osmosis - Sep 01, 2007 - 05:25 PM
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I knew of a dealer that started with CC and truly loved their product, but couldn't sell enough of them to meet goals and they asked for help and CC didnt. They decided to take on another line to support their lacking sales and CC decided to just pull from the dealer entirely. It was a shame, as CC is the boat of choice in that area and now everyone is buying BU because that is the convenient option.

Lately I have seen some great improvements in the product, however Clubmyke hits it on the spot... New looks cool but when it comes down to it, they just arent like they used to be.
04-211-DSJ - Sep 02, 2007 - 01:49 AM
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Well, North Point was an established Nautique dealer. They were bought out by Team Carolina (a Cenurion dealer) It was only a matter of time before they ditched them. We were not satisfied with their (team carolina) inferior and ignorant service starting in 2005. Thats when I startied doing my on maintenance. Since we seem to be calling some serious names here, I can say that I would not do business with Team Carolina now calling itself North Point with a Nautitque N. They are not a business with the customer in mind nor are they interested in delivering a quality product. You can guess the rest. I would really like to hear a rebuttal from correct craft. I love my 04 211, it is a quality boat. And this year JD Power still says Nautique owners are totally satisfied. Please tell me this is just a rougue dealership who never deserved Nautique period, and I can still trust Nautique to supply me a superior product in the future.

Hoosier Bob
09-02-2007, 11:00 PM
This is a very serious matter. Without CC MC is only as good as Moomba! CC drives MC! Sorry BU, MOO, Cent, and Tiger! Your are no where near second! Correct Craft was and maybe is the only driving force for MasterCraft! Sure our rides are built better and look best! Penske? That man is bad arse! I cannot imagine a better partner! We are smokin' the good stuff! MC is the BOMB! Have I told you all I love my boat? SHE ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!;)