Goode 9800 doesn't like the heat?

[jimmer2880]

My brand-new (Spring of this year) 9800 apparently doesn't like the heat.

I absolutely positively love this ski. However, after buying the Goode ski bag (not cheap either!), I left the ski sit in my ski shed 4 days during the work week. When I tried to remove that ski Friday morning (Let's hear it for the 4-day work week! :D ), the ski was literally stuck to the bag. I had to work for several minutes to get the ski out of the bag. When I finally did get it out of the bag, the top skin of the ski is covered with the texture of the bag. Apparently, the top skin melted during the week, which allowed it to adhere with the ski bag. Temps got into the low 90's & the shed is shaded & vented, so I doubt the inside temp ever got above 100degrees.

I called Goode & they are going to repair it free of charge for me. But, they did tell me that they do not warranty damage caused by extreme heat & cold. When I asked what the definition of extremem heat/cold was, she was unable to give numbers. She told me I have a Farrari, not an Impala.

So, my $1000.00 ski (1k without the bindings, $1400 with) literally needs to sleep next to me in bed in a nice air-conditioned and heated room. This may sound nice to several of you, but I frequently do not go straight from the river place to my house. I usually go from work to the trailer Thurs nights, then trailer to work on Monday mornings. So, now I also need to bring the ski with me into the office.

So, I'm very glad Goode is standing behind their product, but disappointed that I need to baby this ski more than the boat (which gets pampered much more than anything else I own).

I don't really have a point, just wanted to vent.

[mayo87prostar]

This is a good warning to others, even with other skis to not leave them in extreme temperature environments. Do you think it really is a problem with ski material melting or the bag material melting?

Also, where do you ski around Hagerstown? I am in Annapolis area and I primarily go on Rhode River off the bay.

[Ric]

I realized that I had to take babying of a ski, to a whole nuther level when I got a Monza. It's definitely a responsibility... that or don't keep a carbon ski long before you replace it:o

[bigmac]

I can see the various layers of a composite ski being affected by temperature extremes, but 100 degrees??? And the decking will actually melt in that kind of heat? Sheesh...

So, you can't use this $1000 water ski in Arizona, for example? It will melt in the 115 degree heat as soon as you take it out of the refrigerator?

[3event]

Extreme? Not! The garage at the lake here in WI definitely gets that hot, so the Goode might only be safe when stored in a shed somewhere north of Winnipeg. Yeesh. Something's not right there.

[Jorski]

That doesn't sound right, like perhaps an incomplete cure of the adhesives during manufacture.

I know that in the past (pre 9600) these skis would expand if left in the direct sun. Schnitz, tried leaving either the 9600 or 9700 out in the direct Florida sun for several hours and it was fine (it was in his review of the ski).

For what it's worth, my 9700 stays under the deck of my boat during the week (where it would get quite hot) and I have never had a problem.

I would persue this with Goode until the end.

[mpm32]

In my experience with carbon high end bicycles (owning, not building), there should never be a point at which the surface gets sticky. I have had carbon parts left in the car in 100 degree heat(outside temp) with none of the effect that you described. As another poster stated, it sounds like an incomplete cure or if they are not using pre-preg carbon, a bad mix on the epoxy.

[MYMC]

In my experience with carbon high end bicycles (owning, not building), there should never be a point at which the surface gets sticky. I have had carbon parts left in the car in 100 degree heat(outside temp) with none of the effect that you described. As another poster stated, it sounds like an incomplete cure or if they are not using pre-preg carbon, a bad mix on the epoxy.
My thoughts as well. Does anyone know if any of the Carbon ski guys (other than Fischer) are using an autoclave?

[Cottonwood]

I think you will find that the bag melted - not the ski - and that caused the dicoloration of the top. I have a storage shed at my lake that gets over 150 deg inside during August days. We have 6-8 Goode's stored in there (not in bags) and have not had an issue. The skis are cured at 380 deg. I can't see where storing them at 100 deg would cause an issue.

[bbeach]

So what you're telling me is that my Monza SHOULD NOT be in the bed of my truck right now in the 107 degree heat? BUT BUT BUT I'm going to the lake after work! My boss almost shot me once for rollin into the office in trunks, let alone trying to drag my one event bag in here! haha!

[jimmer2880]

the woman I spoke to said that there are others having the same problem. She also said that they (Goode) were looking into that combination of heat/humidity is making the ski skin get soft. Apparently, I'm not the only concerned 9800 owner.

At least they are willing to fix the ski. I'm going to wait until November~ish before sending it back though since it's only the top surface which is getting messed up.

When I specifically asked if it was the ski or the bag, she said something to the effect of "it really doesnt' matter, you need to store your ski in a cooler place".

Cottonwood - It may be the bag. This is the first Goode bag I've ever owned. Actually, my wife got it for me for our anniversary :D . Before that, it was kept in a 15 year old Kidder bag (can you say... sleeper ski!). I never had any problems with it in the Kidder bag now that you mention it. Since "the incident", which was about 4 weeks ago, the ski hasn't been in a bag, and has been stored upside-down on the cushoned rack while my rib heals (another slalom story). Anyway, back on track, I haven't had more imprinting since I stopped storing it in the bag. Hmmm....

[jimmer2880]

This is a good warning to others, even with other skis to not leave them in extreme temperature environments. Do you think it really is a problem with ski material melting or the bag material melting?

Also, where do you ski around Hagerstown? I am in Annapolis area and I primarily go on Rhode River off the bay.

I ski on the Potomac River, above Dam 4 (outside of Hagerstown). We own a trailer along the river and are there every weekend.

[Hoosier Bob]

I try to never let the girl lie in the truck. Yesterday droppd a ski to Slink and said do not put that stick in your truck! The heat kills skis!:o

[PendO]

I can see the various layers of a composite ski being affected by temperature extremes, but 100 degrees??? And the decking will actually melt in that kind of heat? Sheesh...

So, you can't use this $1000 water ski in Arizona, for example? It will melt in the 115 degree heat as soon as you take it out of the refrigerator?

you must have to let it float in the water like a watermellon?