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P-hat_in_Cincy
07-16-2007, 09:06 AM
Hey all,

I found that my port brake was hanging up this past weekend (HOT and smelled bad)! I removed it and it took quite a bit to back the piston off using a large C-clamp and then I drained to fluid (no brakes) to get back from Columbus. Anyway...it'll extend using the actuator, but seems very difficult (from my past experience) to get it to retract with a C-clamp. I guessing it's partially corroded/frozen?

What are your thoughts and anyone have experience rebuilding?

Thanks,
Paul

Workin' 4 Toys
07-16-2007, 09:35 PM
I wouldn't advise such a task.....Six reasons why...
1. (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=3742)
2.. (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=16684)
3... (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=16165)
4.... (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=13945)
5..... (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12671)
6...... (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12788)

P-hat_in_Cincy
07-16-2007, 11:42 PM
I wouldn't advise such a task.....Six reasons why...
1. (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=3742)
2.. (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=16684)
3... (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=16165)
4.... (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=13945)
5..... (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12671)
6...... (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12788)

Holy @$!@! I guess I should have searched first!

I did some digging tonight and I'm almost certain it's not my caliper piston.

It was recommended that I make sure the sleeves the caliper slide on were free of corrosion and slightly greased. To make a long story short, I found out that when this was done they would slide freely (by hand/fingers) for a few minutes but then gradually seize up! :confused: I've emailed my dealer about it again and will probably call Reliable tomorrow.

I'm sorry I didn't read every thread in all the posts above, but I gathered that Reliable may offer some assistance on what to do, there are different replacement calipers that help, and even MC replaced someone's entire system?

The post about the X2 coming home from Norris hit home b/c that will be us in a few weeks. After driving mine about 4 miles yesterday the port side was too hot to touch for more the 5-10secs and it smelled HOT!

I had to drain all the fluid out to get home yesterday. Thankfully I'm driving an Excursion 6.0L (runnin' great now..btw) and not having trailer brakes can't even be detected, but...I haven't had a REAL need situation.

Thanks W4T.

Paul

P-hat_in_Cincy
07-17-2007, 08:11 PM
Just as an update, I have 2 Kodiak calipers heading my way as replacements.

macrogp18
07-17-2007, 08:16 PM
Paul i had a similar problem with a caliper, mine warped and was constantly dragging on the rotar. It would get so how the o-ring holding the oil in on the bearing bath would blow sending the oil all over my the rotar. Thank god for tandem axel trailers and a lake close to home as i was able to limp on three wheels. I fell your pain brother and hope you can get it dailed in. Good luck.

Mag_Red
07-17-2007, 08:29 PM
Just as an update, I have 2 Kodiak calipers heading my way as replacements.Make sure you have no water in your lines. Check everything! Including the master cylinder. My entire system was shot! I let Haskins Hitch World on North bend Road take care of everything. Good luck

JohnnyB
07-17-2007, 08:29 PM
If you search old posts, I had the same problem. In talking to Bay Area Watersports, the Kodiak is the recommended replacement for the original caliper. Based on insight from others, this is a known problem. I ordered the new ones from BAWS. How much of your brake pads are left....maybe you should order new pads, they're actually pretty cheap....<$20 for both pairs IIRC.

Workin' 4 Toys
07-17-2007, 11:07 PM
Holy @$!@! I guess I should have searched first!
I'm sorry I didn't read every thread in all the posts above, but I gathered that Reliable may offer some assistance on what to do, there are different replacement calipers that help, and even MC replaced someone's entire system?
Like it or not, you just became reason "7......." (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=17824) ;)

P-hat_in_Cincy
07-17-2007, 11:22 PM
macrogp18...thanks, but not too much pain right now. I'm just glad we found it before hitting the highway. I'd like to see a better shot (than your avatar) of your X2. Have one to send me?

JB...I assume I'll need new pads as I'm not sure the existing ones will line up with the Zodiacs. Dealer is finding out, but either way I think new meat will be the order of the day.

Mag...I bled everything and will do so again once the new calipers arrive. Thanks for the advice. I'll keep the shop in mind should I need them. Luckily, I like this kind of stuff!

W4T...I guess each of us needs our 'claim to fame'.

Take care all!

Workin' 4 Toys
07-17-2007, 11:58 PM
W4T...I guess each of us needs our 'claim to fame'.

Take care all!
I'll just say this... Thinking about trailer brakes makes me nauseous....:mad:

I hope it all works out, and glad I could help.

P-hat_in_Cincy
07-18-2007, 07:58 AM
W4T...Looks like we have a #8. :( You see the posting today in 'wheel flies off trailer' thread?

OhioProstar
07-18-2007, 08:29 AM
Make sure you have no water in your lines. Check everything! Including the master cylinder. My entire system was shot! I let Haskins Hitch World on North bend Road take care of everything. Good luck
I can second Haskins for the Cincy/Tri State owners. They are the best in the area for trailer parts/service and carry just about everything.

Workin' 4 Toys
07-18-2007, 08:33 AM
W4T...Looks like we have a #8. :( You see the posting today in 'wheel flies off trailer' thread?
Yup, Saw it. Although it seems to be "lug nut" related. NOT good.
The only good thing is, that thread happens to be one of the "7" already listed.;)

P-hat_in_Cincy
07-20-2007, 08:43 AM
Looky what the UPS man brought me yesterday. Changed them out, bled the system, and everything seems to be actuating and releasing correctly. Even taught my wife how to change out the right side caliper!

Workin' 4 Toys
07-20-2007, 09:39 AM
Looks good P-hat, I should note, I am not a big fan of that style bleeder. They crack really easy.
I know you're done with the job already, but please go back and make sure there is no fluid leaking out of the bleeders with each activation. Do not tighten again, just wipe them dry, actuate them a few times, and wipe again with a tissue or something thin and see if even a little is coming out.

P-hat_in_Cincy
07-20-2007, 09:48 AM
Yeah...I think I found that out last night. It's a 2 piece bleeder where the very (small) tip is the actual shut-off. I didn't care for it b/c it's impossible to get a wrench on it AND have the bleeder tube hooked up. So, I basically had to hand tighten it shut in mid-bleed and then do the wrench thing on it.

I'm keeping my eyes on it b/c I would find a wet spot on the floor when cleaning up and didn't know if it was new or left over.

Thanks for the heads up. I think we're on the same page.

Paul

Workin' 4 Toys
07-20-2007, 09:57 AM
Yeah...I think I found that out last night. It's a 2 piece bleeder where the very (small) tip is the actual shut-off. I didn't care for it b/c it's impossible to get a wrench on it AND have the bleeder tube hooked up. So, I basically had to hand tighten it shut in mid-bleed and then do the wrench thing on it.

I'm keeping my eyes on it b/c I would find a wet spot on the floor when cleaning up and didn't know if it was new or left over.

Thanks for the heads up. I think we're on the same page.

Paul
That is exactly why I brought it up....
And yes, we are on the same page.;)
Keep an eye on that (I'd guess) "new" wet spot....:o ;)

dieselndixie
03-21-2008, 12:10 PM
Has anyone found a brake pad cross reference for those pads? Mastercraft sent me new calipers (even 3 yrs out of warrantee :)

but, my old pads are shot....need new ones
thanks

TMCNo1
03-21-2008, 12:26 PM
Here is a link to Kodiak and the caliper parts breakdown with a part number, http://www.kodiaktrailer.com/index.php?option=com_productbook&Itemid=51&func=detail&id=9 and the caliper, http://www.kodiaktrailer.com/component/option,com_productbook/func,detail/Itemid,51/id,10/
They can be contacted and probably have what you need!

TMCNo1
03-23-2008, 08:48 PM
Has anyone found a brake pad cross reference for those pads? Mastercraft sent me new calipers (even 3 yrs out of warrantee :)

but, my old pads are shot....need new ones
thanks



Here are the replacement pads for your calipers, http://shop.easternmarine.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=6732&categoryID=302

Workin' 4 Toys
03-24-2008, 08:58 AM
Has anyone found a brake pad cross reference for those pads? Mastercraft sent me new calipers (even 3 yrs out of warrantee :)

but, my old pads are shot....need new ones
thanks
The dealer should have pads for sale as well.
I'd call them...