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moodys
07-13-2007, 12:49 AM
I am trying desperatly to get back into skiing. I use to own a 1990 Ski Brendella Spectrum OB. Had a 351 PCM. Was a great boat but had problems taking water over the bow and I had to replace the floor since it was wooden and also replaced all the seating myself. I mostly slalom at 32 -34 mph and 15 off.

What I am looking for now is a newer boat that has a solid floor. ( I am not sure which boats are not wooden floors ) i know MC is solid but unsure of other boats. I also want some sort of sun pad on the back. May or may not have to be like the new boats with the engine in the rear. I also want a wakeboard tower but could always add one later. OB would be preferable but also do not want a boat that takes water over the bow. I also want a boat that would do well with the intercoastal waters here in Clearwater Florida. But mostly on lakes. I know that is alot to ask. Also I want to stay well below $20,000.

I have been looking at the MC Maristar from the early 90's and also some of the Supra's from the same time period. Do the Supra's have a wooden floor and what about taking water over the bow?
Should I opt for the v-drives since I want to go intercoastal also?
What should I do to the boat before going in saltwater?

I will take any advice and it truly will be appreciated!!!!
Also anyone selling a boat that would fit my needs that is located in Florida or South Georgia PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!

tex
07-13-2007, 01:14 AM
sounds like a 205?

rodltg2
07-13-2007, 01:25 AM
my brendella did the same thing. stretch a bit more and get the 197

clevan
07-13-2007, 02:09 AM
I would stay away from the Supra. They just do not feel like solid boats when I have driven them.

moodys
07-13-2007, 02:18 AM
I really appreciate all the quick response!!!! I am looking at the 205s on boattrader. My old Brendella was 20' but the nose slanted down so it took on water.
Does anyone know what boats had solid floors(fiberglass) in the early to mid 90's? Also has anyone used a MC 205 OB in intercoastal waters?
What did you do to prepare it for saltwater?
Anyone have experience with the Maristars? How big of a difference is the v drive boats for slalom wake?
THANKS!!

rodltg2
07-13-2007, 02:33 AM
Anyone have experience with the Maristars? How big of a difference is the v drive boats for slalom wake?
THANKS!!


big, and sucky

Maristar210
07-13-2007, 09:16 AM
Anyone have experience with the Maristars? How big of a difference is the v drive boats for slalom wake?
THANKS!!


big, and sucky


I would agree. Maristars are just okay for slalom but nothing like a mid 90's prostar might be. Look at the FAQ for some of your other questions and best of luck.

uawaterskier
07-13-2007, 09:22 AM
guess what, my MB Sports (newer Brendella) also dips the nose VERY easily. We have a prostar 197 at school and it does great going down the course. Whatever boat you get I would highly suggest that it has perfect pass on it. It makes driving it so much easier.

endl
07-13-2007, 12:47 PM
I really appreciate all the quick response!!!! I am looking at the 205s on boattrader. My old Brendella was 20' but the nose slanted down so it took on water.
Does anyone know what boats had solid floors(fiberglass) in the early to mid 90's? Also has anyone used a MC 205 OB in intercoastal waters?
What did you do to prepare it for saltwater?
Anyone have experience with the Maristars? How big of a difference is the v drive boats for slalom wake?
THANKS!!
I had a 94 Maristar 225VRS and it had the honeycomb material non wood floor. Seems like 93 or 94 was the first year for the new no wood floor material. If you look at the mastercraft history you can read about when the stringers became non wood.

I believe the EFI motors came in about the same time and my 94 started flawlessly everytime. Fuel Injection is a great thing.

If your a hard core skier get a prostar, if you want room and more of a roomy lake boat then the Maristar is probably a better deal. There is no question on brand of boat. You will not find a better constructed boat than a MC from the early to mid nineties.

bigmac
07-13-2007, 02:05 PM
The issue great slalom wake vs a roomy interior and big sun pad is the classic tow-boat conundrum. A Prostar with its direct drive and flat hull has a beautiful ski wake, but the compromise is that you have that big engine hump in the middle of the interior, no sun pad, and rough ride in chop. A MariStar has tons of interior room, a great rear sun pad, and with it's deeper V hull handles chop really well, but its not going to have the same flat ski wake. My big MariStar has an OK ski wake..far better than any I/O, for example, but not as good as a ProStar. You could put a wake plate on a MariStar, and by all reports than makes for a very good slalom wake.

Most of the guys here that pooh-pooh the MariStar ski wake are hard core slalom skiers and are happy to make the compromises necessary to get that flat slalom wake. If you're a hard-core slalom skier, you'll probably feel the same. OTOH, if you're a relatively casual skier looking for a great all-around boat that cruises well in all kinds of water with lots of people on board, some wakeboarding, some tubing, some slalom skiing, then yes, a Maristar with its V-drive is a great choice.

As to saltwater, that's rough on boats and rougher on trailers. Beforehand, your best option would be to get a boat, or install later, a closed cooling system. More important would be making sure it has a convenient system for flushing afterward and be diligent about that. Also, galvanised trailer for sure.

shepherd
07-13-2007, 03:00 PM
The newer Prostars have pretty nice size sunpads on back, especially if you raise the rear seat. But, if you want to take it out on the ICW and don't want to take water over the bow, sounds like the Maristar is right for you if you're just a casual skier and won't be skiing the slalom course.

Besides, you want a wakeboard tower. Wakeboard towers don't belong on Prostars! ;)

Sodar
07-13-2007, 03:34 PM
Besides, you want a wakeboard tower. Wakeboard towers don't belong on Prostars! ;)

I beg to differ!! :mad:



:D :D

endl
07-13-2007, 04:24 PM
I beg to differ!! :mad:



:D :D
Ut Oh! now you done it....here we go.

moodys
07-13-2007, 05:34 PM
I thank you all for the input. If I had the money I would get a prostar for the lake and a Walk Around Cuddy for the saltwater for sure, but I do not. I use to be hardcore in Highschool for slalom but like I said I usually only ski @ 32-34mph and 15 off. BIGMAC what do you run with your Maristar 230 on the slalom course? Looks like you are able to run pretty good from your pictures....
The wakeboard tower is mostly for everyone else. I prefer slalom, but if the lake is choppy I will wakeboard.
? Has anyone used a mid 90's Maristar in saltwater? And how did it fair?

I have heard of the closed cooling system and also about installing a Zinc anode. What does that cost?

Again THANK YOU for all the responses.....

bec1971
07-28-2007, 08:52 AM
Moodys,

I am new to Mastercraft this summer. I have a 1994 Maristar 225 vrs, bought it with 350 hours for $9800. I use it in fresh and salt water on the Cheasapeak. Since I trailer it, I was it and the trailer and flush out the motor after each usage. I am looking to add the closed cooling system this winter. I agree with the above postings, it is all in what you are looking for. I have 4 kids that all like doing something different, so the Maristar fit my needs. At 32 mph the wake is pretty low, not prostar low, but low. For wakeboarding we add ballast and it creates a nice wake. As for the waves in the Channel, I can keep the bow up by going a little slower and have not taken any water over the bow. However, with the larger waves and wakes from cruisers you have to feather the throttle a little. I could not see driving a Prostar out in the Channel of the Cheasapeak, sometimes I get a little nervous with the Maristar. Good luck whatever you choice is.

JohnE
07-28-2007, 09:34 AM
I've never been on or behind a Maristar. Any pic's of it's slalom wake anyone.

moodys
07-28-2007, 10:13 AM
Well it is done.... I bought a 1991 Maristar 240SC. I still cannot believe how big this boat really is. Tried slalom yesterday and had to back out to full length rope and 34mph. I was a little timid to cut the wake since I have not been skiing in 3 years. bec1971 that sounds like you got a really good deal on the 225. Was there anything wrong with it? As for wakeboard... the 240 is great. I was on a lake but I would not be afraid of salwater waves at all. I got a decent deal on my boat. Paid 10k but it has a 3 yo new engine with 70 hours a PCM 5.7 330 hp. Boat has 400 hours. Needs new interior and new decals along with a really good buff of the gel coat. Any ideas on the cheapest and easiest way to totally redo the gel coat to original condition. Really bad oxidation. I wil get some pics of the wakes soon!!!
-Moodys

bigmac
07-28-2007, 10:31 AM
Needs new interior and new decals along with a really good buff of the gel coat. Any ideas on the cheapest and easiest way to totally redo the gel coat to original condition. Really bad oxidation. I wil get some pics of the wakes soon!!!
-Moodys

Congratulations on the 240.

Shepherd had a great restoration diary with excellent tips on refinishing the gel coat, and a search on restore, restoration, or gel coat will bring a LOT of info on such a project. Gel coat is pretty durable stuff. It does oxidize, but with the right buffer, chemicals, elbow grease and time you can really shine that stuff up.

Look here
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12550&highlight=polisher

Leroy
07-28-2007, 10:37 AM
Not a very good picture but here it is at 36 MPH

Leroy
07-28-2007, 10:39 AM
Don't let this scare you! Also at 36MPH, 28 off

Ric
07-28-2007, 10:39 AM
I beg to differ!! :mad:



:D :D shepherd don't know

06197ttlq9-footer
07-28-2007, 03:25 PM
Buy the best MasterCraft you can afford/find and stay out of the salt.....Wha? everything else had already been said. Peace, love & Sweetwater 2 all.

JohnE
07-28-2007, 05:15 PM
Thanks for the pic's Leroy.

T Scott
07-28-2007, 05:39 PM
Needs new interior and new decals along with a really good buff of the gel coat. Any ideas on the cheapest and easiest way to totally redo the gel coat to original condition. Really bad oxidation. -Moodys

For interior work, I use a guy in St. Pete, FL called Wheels to Wings. (62nd avenue and 49th street) One man shop......he is a little slow, but the price is always competitive and he does an unreal job!. (I'd ballpark $1500-$2000 for an entirely new interior including the cabin cushions.) For gel coat, I use a guy here in Orlando. He is a former Regal boat fiberglass specialist and can make anything look like new. PM me if you'd like either of their phone numbers.

Tom

bec1971
07-30-2007, 02:11 PM
Moodys,

My '94 needs a new interior. I am fortunate my Dad does it as a side job. We started on the back cushions and sun pad, will do the rest over the winter. My gel coat could also use some waxing to bring back its color. I am also trying to get new decals. The suggested, I think the right name is Bay Water sports in Land O lakes Florida. Just have not had a chance to call. The trailer the dealer gave me was from a 2003 Maristar 240.