View Full Version : Pumped about new PB!
h2oskifreak
07-03-2007, 08:38 PM
Just returned from skiing better than I ever have. Two P.B.'s in a row and I have my new Monza and perfect site conditions to thank. I am totally feeling the love of my sport right now. I saw Blue line for the first time ever today. Hope everyone out there at some point feels the way I do right now. I love this game.
h2oskifreak
07-04-2007, 03:47 PM
Skied again this morning. Not bad 3 out of 4 days, so far this month. I made my P.B. again. I think I have confidence 32' off is not that much harder than 28'. Anyone have input on how to approach 35' off. I hear the pull is shorter and harder, and obviously reach has to be critical. I can get around a ball, but have slack issues, am I over-pulling? Any comments appreciated.
TMCNo1
07-04-2007, 03:51 PM
Just for the record, what is your personal best?
rodltg2
07-04-2007, 04:50 PM
Skied again this morning. Not bad 3 out of 4 days, so far this month. I made my P.B. again. I think I have confidence 32' off is not that much harder than 28'. Anyone have input on how to approach 35' off. I hear the pull is shorter and harder, and obviously reach has to be critical. I can get around a ball, but have slack issues, am I over-pulling? Any comments appreciated.
you should check out the nichols board. not too many shortliners frequent this site.incluing myself im stuck at 4@28
h2oskifreak
07-04-2007, 05:17 PM
I was out washing the rig, sorry for the delay. My best before was 3 @32', My new is two full @ 32" and 1 at 35'. What is the nichols board?
shepherd
07-04-2007, 05:48 PM
http://eclipse.nicholls.edu/cgi-bin/BBS/webbbs_config.pl?#30952
Nicholls is a site frequented by slalom skiers of all levels. There seems to be no shortage of advice there, much of it helpful I'm sure.
Congrats on the personal best! 32 off not much harder than 28? I wish! I've ventured into 32 off a couple times, PB is 3 @ 32, but I'm still struggling with 28 a lot of times.
h2oskifreak
07-04-2007, 07:32 PM
Shep, It's all in the shortned (harder) pull and an earlier reach and quicker edge change. I guess if I could give advice, I would say look shore to shore and check the bouy location only after your edge change. If you look to the ball, you ski to the ball. There isn't as much room to get away w/ errors at 28'. Keep your angle, edge change and reach. Good luck and thanks for the tip, I'll try it. I ski with one other person, so it's hard to get advice.
shepherd
07-04-2007, 09:57 PM
I'm really trying to not look at the ball, to keep my elbows in close to the body, bend my knees in the turns. It's coming... My ski partner is getting into 38 off so he's a good coach - helping with ski set-up etc.
RedStar
07-04-2007, 10:38 PM
Alvin had a big day today. He knocked back 5 cold ones during a 10 minute tube ride at 30mph. We couldn't sling him off for nothing. He's like that with his store-bought refreshments.
Alvin had a big day today. He knocked back 5 cold ones during a 10 minute tube ride at 30mph. We couldn't sling him off for nothing. He's like that with his store-bought refreshments.
I could fix that. I could toss him w/o ever getting over 28! I'm evil!
h2oskifreak
07-05-2007, 01:57 AM
Shep- I wish I had a coach, sounds like you have good advice in your partner. I need to video tape. I keep saying I will, but just need to do it. In the past I have found it very helpful. Well off to check out this nichols board.
rodltg2
07-05-2007, 01:22 PM
Shep, It's all in the shortned (harder) pull and an earlier reach and quicker edge change. I guess if I could give advice, I would say look shore to shore and check the bouy location only after your edge change. If you look to the ball, you ski to the ball. There isn't as much room to get away w/ errors at 28'. Keep your angle, edge change and reach. Good luck and thanks for the tip, I'll try it. I ski with one other person, so it's hard to get advice.
cool, i got the same advice yesterday. my gate timing at 28 is really off. it seems like all i need is a good one ball and i can run it.
pilot02
07-05-2007, 01:29 PM
I could fix that. I could toss him w/o ever getting over 28! I'm evil!
I could as well.... Just ask the kids I taught waterskiing to at scout camp a month ago that CLAIMED they'd never been thrown off a tube and couldn't be.!! Longest one lasted maybe all of 30 seconds on their longest ride and I gave em all at least 3 strikes!!
BrianM
07-05-2007, 01:32 PM
One thing I have really been working on which has made my 28s consistent and is getting me further into 32 is really slowing down my gate. By that I mean making a good turn in for the gate, letting the ski completely finish that turn creating as much angle as possible. Then getting into the pull with the strongest pull right behind the boat. At first that felt like it was really slow and waiting to initiate the pull almost sound wrong. But you do not need to rush things. Creating the angle and getting a solid pull behind the boat makes for an early 1 ball and keeps you from rushing the course. You feel more speed at the shorter lines but you still can't rush. Let that ski finish up its turn at each and every ball before ripping into the pull.
shepherd
07-05-2007, 02:26 PM
My problem with 32 off has been carrying too much speed into the 1 ball, creating a ton of slack. I think I just need to get more angle through the gates and start my turn sooner.
André
07-05-2007, 02:35 PM
Got some good coaching 2 weeks ago about getting higher on the boat,gliding at the same speed of the boat ,getting into a progressive lean and looking at the right hand gate buoy.Took a week to practice and now I'm getting way wider at 1.Got into a couples of balls at 32 for the last 5 sets...
Even made 3 but started thinking about making the pass and ...fell!:o
BrianM
07-05-2007, 02:56 PM
My problem with 32 off has been carrying too much speed into the 1 ball, creating a ton of slack. I think I just need to get more angle through the gates and start my turn sooner.
More than likely. Slack at 1 ball is almost always form skiing straight to the ball aka no angle. More than likely that no angle came from rushing the turn in. Let that ski finish that turn and create as much angle as possible before getting into the lean/pull. This is my exact problem as well. If I get a nice slow gate and a good 1 ball I make 3-4 bouys at 32 if not I get slack and crash out at 1
h2oskifreak
07-06-2007, 01:24 AM
All good suggestions. I find myself trying to ski aggressive and get "hot" into the one ball. I always do better if I relax and ski narrower gates and less speed. That one ball is oh so crutial. I don't now this for a fact, but I heard the shortest distance in the course is from the gates to 1. I had a person tell me to ski just wide of the gates and insure a good 1 on difficult passes. I could never buy into it myself, but know some who approach their limits this way.
bstrom-tt
07-10-2007, 06:37 PM
Well, so far, there's a lot of good advice being given. My mantra is the shorter the line, the less hard you pull. By this I mean, as the rope gets shorter, the whip (Technical term) gets bigger, Conversely, as the rope gets shorter, In my mind I instinctively get more aggressive, Not a good combo. So, I concentrate on trying to make the pass feel slow, I use a progressive pull-out (Still need to get wide and high on the boat though) , easy turn-in, set a good edge and just hold that position, let the boat do the work. Get off the gas quick at the second wake (Tough to always do) and nice reach to ball one.
Now you're off to the races!!
And always remember, 100 different skiers, 100 different ways to get it done. (Do what works for you)
Bill.
shepherd
07-12-2007, 03:27 PM
Well, so far, there's a lot of good advice being given. My mantra is the shorter the line, the less hard you pull. By this I mean, as the rope gets shorter, the whip (Technical term) gets bigger, Conversely, as the rope gets shorter, In my mind I instinctively get more aggressive, Not a good combo. So, I concentrate on trying to make the pass feel slow, I use a progressive pull-out (Still need to get wide and high on the boat though) , easy turn-in, set a good edge and just hold that position, let the boat do the work. Get off the gas quick at the second wake (Tough to always do) and nice reach to ball one.
I visited the forum on Chris Rossi's Ski Tek site. He said basically the same thing. When you come out of the turn, you want to be stepping on the accelerator, not the brake -- i.e., don't dig in and fight the boat's pull.
Getting off the gas is the hard thing to do for me. I believe I'm carrying way too much speed into the turn.
h2oskifreak
07-13-2007, 12:15 AM
I am on the water tomorrow and I am going to try slower gates at 28' and 32'. I have been getting good angle w/ my new Monza. I know I am going to fast into 1 and sometimes looking at the 1 instead of the right gate bouy and edge change-to reach. Looking forward to my casual gates.
I had a great session today. I made 4 bouys 35off but again at very slow speeds (30-32 MPH), but I hope tomorrow our boat will be ready so I will be able to try 22off @ 34MPH. Knowing that im skiing at low speeds, I´ve being trying to concentrate on my position and I have improved. Also before going to the water I try to visualize my sets and that helps a lot. I know that this is not right but when the only chance to ski is with a slow boat you better enjoy it and try to get the most of it.
h2oskifreak
07-13-2007, 01:24 PM
Good to hear pq2, 35' off is getting down. Slow speeeds are good until you get them run, then step it up. I don't like to ski slow myself, I know it is recommended by some. I just like it to be constant, then when things are different, I know it is me and, I adjust. Good skiing.
thanks, for the last two weeks I had skied almost everyday and thats the best way to improve. I also have a record of all my sets by day.
h2oskifreak
07-14-2007, 12:53 AM
Ski journals are the way to go amazing how much I forget. I have every note for 3 years now. Just skied my 23rd time of the season today. Perfect conditions, skied a new P.B. 1 1/2 @ 35' @34 M.P.H. Was a little dissapionted I only got one set in but the only real driver poped in just to ski me. I was there as host today. My super assistant got a better job. Wow was she hot, and very qualified, sad day.
shepherd
04-16-2009, 12:23 PM
5 @ 32 off last weekend. When I get that 6th ball, drinks are on me!:toast:
Jesus_Freak
04-16-2009, 01:28 PM
5 @ 32 off last weekend.
Information like this makes me embarassed to ski with you Shep!:o
André
04-16-2009, 08:44 PM
5 @ 32 off last weekend. When I get that 6th ball, drinks are on me!:toast:
Congrats shep!
Why didn't you try for the full pass?;)
shepherd
04-17-2009, 12:28 AM
Yeah, I know. If you can get 5, you should be able to get 6! :o
I'm really itching to try out that blue line.
Monte
04-17-2009, 12:56 AM
5 @ 32 off last weekend. When I get that 6th ball, drinks are on me!:toast:
Hmmm CSM is only a few days away:rolleyes::D8p
JohnE
04-17-2009, 09:23 AM
Yeah, I know. If you can get 5, you should be able to get 6! :o
I'm really itching to try out that blue line.
You better get that 6 ball before CSM if I'm driving.....I'll bust you down to 28 in no time.8p
shepherd
04-17-2009, 10:11 AM
You better get that 6 ball before CSM if I'm driving.....I'll bust you down to 28 in no time.8p
You probably will with that giant X14 wake! :D
JohnE
04-17-2009, 10:22 AM
You probably will with that giant X14 wake! :D
Not to mention the tower isn't 32 friendly from what I've heard.
André
04-17-2009, 03:02 PM
Not to mention the tower isn't 32 friendly from what I've heard.
I think you,ll be OK at 32 but on the pullout for gates at 35 the rope may touch the tower mounts.
shepherd
04-17-2009, 03:18 PM
I think you,ll be OK at 32 but on the pullout for gates at 35 the rope may touch the tower mounts.
OK, I think this guy is bragging. ;)
jdl xstar
04-17-2009, 03:38 PM
Are you guys all talking about doing this at 36mph or 34?
D3skier
04-17-2009, 04:29 PM
what ever speed it is would still be pretty impressive
André
04-17-2009, 07:25 PM
OK, I think this guy is bragging. ;)
Just a bit...:)
Going for a cortisone (?) shot in my elbow next Thuesday.
Last year hits from slack ropes didn't heal good.
Gotta learn to keep that rope tight...
Outbound direction after second wake is the key for me i think.
shepherd
04-17-2009, 11:41 PM
I could use some of those cortisone shots in my shoulder. I tweak it again tonight from the slack rope I think. I ran 3 @32 about 5 times tonight. I've been getting a fairly good 1 ball, but I'm late around 2 and it's all downhill from there...
h2oskifreak
04-18-2009, 12:44 AM
Short hard pulls Shepherd. Reach and don't give back any of the angle after the ski completes the turn. One thing that I find helps with keeping your angle is to look shore to shore, never look for the ball or you'll ski right to it. Glad to hear your 1 ball is good that is truely half the battle-gates and 1 ball. Video you skiing early in the year is the best advice. You will see things that you can correct early in the season. Good luck on the 32... you will get it and then next thing you know 2-3 @35.
h2oskifreak
04-18-2009, 12:50 AM
I could use some of those cortisone shots in my shoulder. I tweak it again tonight from the slack rope I think. I ran 3 @32 about 5 times tonight. I've been getting a fairly good 1 ball, but I'm late around 2 and it's all downhill from there...
Last year you mentioned your ski partner is getting into 38 off. Are you still skiing with him? He would be a great coach to have around. I got my 32 off full passes a lot last summer but am still to get out this year (Colorado has snow again today). I am looking so forward to making a 35 pass this year. Slack is my serious issue at that rope length. Any advice from anybody would be greatly appreciated.
JohnE
04-18-2009, 09:55 AM
I think you,ll be OK at 32 but on the pullout for gates at 35 the rope may touch the tower mounts.
ICBW, but I thought I remember reading that the rope starts hitting the newer towers at 28. I hope you are right. Shep can let us know in 2 weeks.
André
04-18-2009, 10:00 AM
ICBW, but I thought I remember reading that the rope starts hitting the newer towers at 28. I hope you are right. Shep can let us know in 2 weeks.
28?
I think you should take the tower off so shep's concentration is not broken while skiing...:)
Is there another tower you can install on the 214 so the rope don't hit?
You got factory tower i think John?
Woke up to a icefree lake this morning!!!
JohnE
04-18-2009, 12:59 PM
28?
I think you should take the tower off so shep's concentration is not broken while skiing...:)
Is there another tower you can install on the 214 so the rope don't hit?
You got factory tower i think John?
Woke up to a icefree lake this morning!!!
Andre, my only info on the rope hitting the tower comes from here: http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=385102&postcount=9
If I were good enough to ski 32 and shorter or had a partner that was, I'd have something rigged in my garage to take the tower off quickly.
Shep will have his boat at CSM, so he won't really have to worry about it.
Glad to hear the ice is out!:cool: