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Maristar210
06-25-2007, 10:20 AM
Here's the deal.

My IT guy is giving me the "lost in space" "Danger Danger" speech beacuse our Server room space is typically 76 degrees during the day and lowers to around 70 in the evening. He is telling the difference of 6 degree is, as he states "critical" and could be the source of failure unless we do someting to stabilize the temperature 24 hours a day.


So, are common file servers and ISP crap that suceptiable to temperature fluxuations?

Please chime in and thanks

bcampbe7
06-25-2007, 10:28 AM
I have not heard of the actual 6 degree fluctuation causing problems. Maybe he is using some sort of tape system for backups that is susceptible to the fluctuation...

76 degrees in a computer room is pretty hot though. If it is 76 degrees ambient then the inside temp of the servers and switches could be 110 plus, which would be cause for concern. Ask him to give you the board temps on the switches and routers. Most have that feature and a "show chassis" command or similar will give it to ya.

Ric
06-25-2007, 10:33 AM
whew, 76 degrees in our server room would be considered a cool day here in TX

bcampbe7
06-25-2007, 10:36 AM
Also if you are not able to control the humidity, that would be a concern. If the humidity is not under control and you are getting condensation in the 6 degree fluctuation, then yes, that is concerning.

bcampbe7
06-25-2007, 10:37 AM
whew, 76 degrees in our server room would be considered a cool day here in TX


Ours stays right around 55 degrees. :cool:

TX.X-30 fan
06-25-2007, 10:45 AM
Also if you are not able to control the humidity, that would be a concern. If the humidity is not under control and you are getting condensation in the 6 degree fluctuation, then yes, that is concerning.



I would think as long as 210 stays out of the room (with all his hot air) there should not be a humidity problem. ;) :D :D

andrewtimko
06-25-2007, 10:46 AM
A six degree fluctuation during the day, when those servers may be running at a high load, is not uncommon. My server room stays at 62 degrees at night, and rises to 66 during the day. During the summer, these numbers can rise to 66 and 72. A cause for concern, in my opinion, is if these numbers began consistently staying in the high seventies and low eighties; it may be time to bump up the HVAC capabilities. As for the fluctuation, I wouldn't be overly concerned, unless you have the extra $$ to fix it.

east tx skier
06-25-2007, 10:47 AM
Ours has its own air conditioning.

andrewtimko
06-25-2007, 10:51 AM
Here is what Sun reccomends:

The ambient temperature range of 70°F to 74°F (21°C to 23°C) is optimal for system reliability and operator comfort levels. Most computer equipment can operate within a wide temperature range, but a level near 72°F (22°C) is desirable because it is easier to maintain safe associated relative humidity levels at this temperature. Operating in this temperature range provides a safety buffer just in case the environmental support systems go down for a period of time. Though individual standards vary slightly, 70°F to 74°F (21°C to 23°C) should be used as an optimal recommendation.

http://docs.sun.com/source/805-7365-15/environment.html

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 10:51 AM
I would think as long as 210 stays out of the room (with all his hot air) there should not be a humidity problem. :D

I wondered who would be first with the cracks, you or my little friend from the north. You win the free prize Tex, it's right down here 8p :D

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 10:52 AM
Here is what Sun reccomends:

The ambient temperature range of 70F to 74F (21C to 23C) is optimal for system reliability and operator comfort levels. Most computer equipment can operate within a wide temperature range, but a level near 72F (22C) is desirable because it is easier to maintain safe associated relative humidity levels at this temperature. Operating in this temperature range provides a safety buffer just in case the environmental support systems go down for a period of time. Though individual standards vary slightly, 70F to 74F (21C to 23C) should be used as an optimal recommendation.

http://docs.sun.com/source/805-7365-15/environment.html


Beau's is 55F, why so? TIA

Steve

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-25-2007, 10:53 AM
Its probably all the porn you store on that server thats causing it to heat up. ;) 8p

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 10:54 AM
Its probably all the porn you store on that server thats causing it to heat up. ;) 8p


Shhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean the porn I've sharing with you? whacka whacka !!!! :D

Ric
06-25-2007, 10:54 AM
Gay thread .

I wondered who would be first with the cracks, you or my little friend from the north. You win the free prize Tex, it's right down here 8p :D

TX.X-30 fan
06-25-2007, 10:55 AM
I wondered who would be first with the cracks, you or my little friend from the north. You win the free prize Tex, it's right down here 8p :D



Where Where oh wait let me get my reading glasses. Oh I can see it now. :D :D

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 10:56 AM
Gay thread .


Man is that all you got? Your slippin RIC.

Keep it and I'll be mailing you 8 x 10's of me in my Speedo 8p 8p

PendO
06-25-2007, 10:58 AM
Beau's is 55F, why so? TIA

Steve

Casue the govt' spares no expense to stay cooler than the rest of us:)

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 10:58 AM
Where Where oh wait let me get my reading glasses. Oh I can see it now. :D :D


You both from Texas are slipping with your High school shots.

I just read an article on Student hazing and I know Brieod, we's pals so step the ___ :D :D

TX.X-30 fan
06-25-2007, 11:02 AM
You both from Texas are slipping with your High school shots.

I just read an article on Student hazing and I know Brieod, we's pals so step the ___ :D :D



I just figured with that new GED under your belt I would Keep it simple. 8p

OhioProstar
06-25-2007, 11:04 AM
You can hang meat in our server room. It houses a zSeries mainframe, iSeries AS/400, and ten other distributed systems plus DASD and tape. I would think that 76 is high....but is a nice temp for mowing the yard or watching UM lose on Saturdays.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-25-2007, 11:04 AM
Shhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean the porn I've sharing with you? whacka whacka !!!! :D
No, the porn you send me is good, wholesome porn. NO problems there!:D

I mean the pics of you in your speedo that you store on the server that Ric wants to see. thats what the computer is rejecting, its like having a stomach flu, you get a fever and the only way to feel better is to get the nasty stuff out! :D ;)

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 11:04 AM
I just figured with that new GED under your belt I would Keep it simple. 8p

Uh Huh. Remember I'm the one that talks slow to you so YOU can understand, remember?

Hey wait the **** a minute, I just jacked my own thread :mad: :D :rolleyes:

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 11:05 AM
No, the porn you send me is good, wholesome porn. NO problems there!:D

I mean the pics of you in your speedo that you store on the server that Ric wants to see. thats what the computer is rejecting, its like having a stomach flu, you get a fever and the only way to feel better is to get the nasty stuff out! :D ;)


What are you saying? You want me to pull it out?

dmayer84
06-25-2007, 11:11 AM
Our data center has 4 seperate HVAC units that all run independently. The temp is set to be at I think 60 degrees (or right around there). There probably about 2000 servers in there along with a lot of switches.

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 11:13 AM
You can hang meat in our server room. It houses a zSeries mainframe, iSeries AS/400, and ten other distributed systems plus DASD and tape. I would think that 76 is high....but is a nice temp for mowing the yard or watching UM lose on Saturdays.

OOOOOOOOO

Man !!!!

DUDE !!!!

What the hell? It's not even July and you Buckeyes are already Skeered :D

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-25-2007, 11:16 AM
What are you saying? You want me to pull it out?
Yes, and Send it to Ric. It will make him happy, and your server happy. a win/win situation. :D 8p ;)

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 11:19 AM
Yes, and Send it to Ric. It will make him happy, and your server happy. a win/win situation. 8p ;)


The speedo or whats contained therein?
:D

:wavey: Ric

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-25-2007, 11:20 AM
The pictures!!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 11:27 AM
The pictures!!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Pictures of what? :D :D

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-25-2007, 11:29 AM
Pictures of what? :D :D
Pictures of The speedo dummy!!! The ones you keep telling Ric about. Pretty slow on mondays arent you??

TX.X-30 fan
06-25-2007, 11:32 AM
Pictures of The speedo dummy!!! The ones you keep telling Ric about. Pretty slow on mondays arent you??



MONDAY'S ??????????????????????? :D

bcampbe7
06-25-2007, 11:37 AM
Beau's is 55F, why so? TIA

Steve

Network equipment (switches and routers) do not like to run in high ambient temps. If the ambient temp is 76 degrees, the likely internal temp of a router is around 105, or more. Ours start sending alerts at 105. They shut themselves down a 113 degrees F.

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 11:42 AM
Pictures of The speedo dummy!!! The ones you keep telling Ric about. Pretty slow on mondays arent you??


With me in it?

( god I'm cracking myself up stringing you along )

Maristar210
06-25-2007, 11:43 AM
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MONDAY'S ??????????????????????? :D


Yup he's on fire today :rolleyes:

OhioProstar
06-25-2007, 03:03 PM
OOOOOOOOO
What the hell? It's not even July and you Buckeyes are already Skeered :D

Easy with the Buckeye stuff...you might make Sparty mad.

Ric
06-25-2007, 03:22 PM
Our data center has 4 seperate HVAC units that all run independently. The temp is set to be at I think 60 degrees (or right around there). There probably about 2000 servers in there along with a lot of switches. my "server room" has one server, one router, one modem, one phone system, one copier and one hvac register :o

dmayer84
06-25-2007, 03:26 PM
my "server room" has one server, one router, one modem, one phone system, one copier and one hvac register :o

I guess all those numbers should really be doubled for our disaster recovery location.

TX.X-30 fan
06-25-2007, 03:38 PM
Hey we could put a few ex wives in there, I know mine could drop the temp. all by her lonesome. 8p 8p

Ric
06-25-2007, 04:14 PM
Hey we could put a few ex wives in there, I know mine could drop the temp. all by her lonesome. 8p 8p now THAT is a helpful post!

LakePirate
06-25-2007, 09:58 PM
If they are Cisco routers and switches then tell him to enter the show environment and it should give you the internal temp. If it is a big problem then there should be entries in the log.

/the fan went out on my work laptop last week, motherboard was at 140 Degrees.

JimN
06-25-2007, 10:27 PM
Condensation will only occur if the dew point is higher than the coolest temperatures achieved by the surfaces. The time this is most likely to happen is when the IT room temperature has cooled to its minimum and warm, moist air comes in because someone opened the door or left it open. IT equipment likes to be in slightly cool and dry air, preferably moving.