LED Group Buy

[aprgriggs]

There has been some talk on a group buy for LED lights. I have been talking with Lit up and they have agreed to help us if we can get enough lights.

Some background.... these lights are from the same company that makes and sells Mastercraft there lights.

Owl Lighting does the wholesale market, so Lit Up is going to handle our order. Check out both web sites...

www.litupelectronics.com

This will be one big order so please let me know how many lights you are interested in. The more lights we order the cheaper it will be. After I have a count, I will let you know how much each light will cost and you can deside if you what them or not.

How many are interested.
April

[aprgriggs]

3 Light types...

Step Light: Flat Rectangular light fixture with three LED’s with wire
exiting the back side of the case. Lights can be mounted
with ADCO Acrylic Tape or SS Screws.

Cluster Light: Oval fixture with four LED’s forming a oval with the wire
exiting the side of the case. Lights can be mounted with
ADCO Acrylic Tape or SS Screws.

Segment Light: Surface Mounted Technology are LEDs mounted on a flexible circuit board enclosed in plastic tubing with wire exiting
one end and with plastic caps on both ends.

[aprgriggs]

If you got it from MC they would use the following. However, If you want more than you can get more or if you want less you can get less.

197/X7/X9....
14 Cluster lights (7 white; 7 boat color)
8 Step lights (boat color)
2 full length SMT (Surface Mount Technology) (white)

X2
7 Cluster lights (7 boat color)
15 Step lights (3 white; 12 boat color)
1 two-segment SMT (white)

XStar
7 Cluster lights (boat color)
15 Step lights (3 white; 12 boat color)
1 two-segment SMT (white)

X10/X30
5 Cluster (boat color)
5 Step (3 white; 2 boat color)
1 full length SMT (white)
2 full length SMT (boat color)

Each Speaker
1 full lenght Segment (boat color)

Trailer
As many Clusters as you think you might need.

No listing for X80 or X45 sorry

[BriEOD]

I haven't really read through the other thread. Are you talking about lights for a tower or lights for trailers?

[aprgriggs]

I haven't really read through the other thread. Are you talking about lights for a tower or lights for trailers?



Check out Mastercraft by Design Section F (Interior LED Light Pkg)
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/l...tion=jump&id=13

However, these LED's can be used on trailers, or where you would like to put them.

Pictures coming soon...I wanting on Lit Up to send me some more pictures, but check out the websites above.

[captkidd]

I would be interested in LED lights to replace the brake/turn lights and the side marker lights on my trailer, but I'd want ones that fit in the same openings. Can't tell from these pictures if these would work.

[aprgriggs]

I would be interested in LED lights to replace the brake/turn lights and the side marker lights on my trailer, but I'd want ones that fit in the same openings. Can't tell from these pictures if these would work.

I believe that is a MC product and not from Lit Up...you could probably use a few of the cluser lights and wire them in. I not a specialist at wiring though.

[Cary K.]

I'm pretty sure I would get in on this, depending on price of course.

[aprgriggs]

I'm pretty sure I would get in on this, depending on price of course.

I need to know how many you would be interested in....so I can give them a number. They will give us a bigger discount for more lights. i will have a hard price before you would have to pay.

[BriEOD]

I would be interested in LED lights to replace the brake/turn lights and the side marker lights on my trailer, but I'd want ones that fit in the same openings. Can't tell from these pictures if these would work.

I'm with you Daryl. I remember DanK did this to his trailer I don't recall where he got the lights but I thought they fit.

[wakefunX-2]

Hey Aprgriggs, 23 lights for a X-2, isnt that alot? do you know where the placement of all the lights are? or do you know of some where i can look to find out?

[aprgriggs]

Hey Aprgriggs, 23 lights for a X-2, isnt that alot? do you know where the placement of all the lights are? or do you know of some where i can look to find out?

send me your email...

[TTAdmin]

April...could you post prices for these lights? Maybe broken down by how many are ordered... example:
Step
1-50 $10 each
51-100 $8 each
Cluster
1-50 $15 each
51-100 $12 each

[Mag_Red]

Hey Aprgriggs, 23 lights for a X-2, isnt that alot? do you know where the placement of all the lights are? or do you know of some where i can look to find out? April, I have the same question regarding a 209. Vetteman99@zoomtown.com Thanks for your help and Happy valentine's Day!

[wakefunX-2]

Hey April, my email: cory_rover@yahoo.com Thanks for the information!!!

[aprgriggs]

April...could you post prices for these lights? Maybe broken down by how many are ordered... example:
Step
1-50 $10 each
51-100 $8 each
Cluster
1-50 $15 each
51-100 $12 each

I am working on the discounted price...it should be soon. I was just trying to find out how many were interested.

[aprgriggs]

I am working on the discounted price...it should be soon. I was just trying to find out how many were interested.


Here is the retail cost on the lights..

Cluster & Step = $17 each
Segment = $60 each (have 9 lights, and flexable)

Now you see why I was trying to see how many were interested....to see if it was even possible to get them cheap...Breakdown pricing coming soon.

Check the link above for product information. These lights have a life time warranty. They will replace them for any reason.

[Stritt]

ouch! 494.00 for 197. Let me know on the pricing once you receive them. Hopes its better than that. :eek:

[aprgriggs]

ouch! 494.00 for 197. Let me know on the pricing once you receive them. Hopes its better than that. :eek:


i hope it it better too...still working on pricing

[_JR]

FWIW -

I purchased 6 cluster lights and 5 SMT lights for my ProStar 190 from these guys, and the lights are awesome.

I installed the cluster lights under the side panels shooting towards the engine cover to "blanket" the carpet with light.
Then I installed 2 SMT lights behind each of the side panels so that the light was directed to the interior of the side panels. Then installed another SMT in the drivers footwell.

Hooked all of the lights up to the ANC position of the NAV light switch. When I am running at night, I get the NAV lights plus my LED's. Or, I can cut the NAV lights and hang out with just the LED lights. I am ready for a summer night with the lady!

:dance:

[wakefunX-2]

You can just use your LED's at night but why have both anyway? I took the stock light housings out and converted them to the LED lights, so you cant even tell that something diffrent has been done to the boat. I saw some pictures of how other people have installed them and i didnt think it looked right. It just looks like they got the box of LED's and were putting them where ever they could think of it and not worring about apperance. Personally i dont think it looks good when you have the lights that came with your boat, and then a few inches away you have some LED cluster out in the open. So my onlt point is this, whatever you do, be happy with how it turns out, if it takes a little more time to do, make it look like it came that way from Mastercraft, and not Mastercrap!!!

I hope to be done with the inside of my X-2's LED's this weekend, then i will post some pictures.

[aprgriggs]

ok here are the numbers...let me know how many you need, color and then check your email I will send a conformation. I will then email all those who ordered with your final price. At time will need your address and payment (you pay shipping)....your going like this.

Better than paying retail..

Thanks to Lit Up Electronices and Neil. www.litupelectronics.com

0-50 LED's Ordered

Cluster LED (chrome or black housings)
Red & Yellow $7
Orange & Purple $11
All other colors (blue) $10

Step LED
Red & Yellow $6.50
Orange & Purple $10.50
All other colors (blue) $9.50


51+ LED's Ordered

Cluster LED (chrome or black housing)
Red & Yellow $6
Orange & Purple $10
All other colors (blue) $9

Step LED
Red & Yellow $5.50
Orange & Purple $9.50
All other colors (blue) $8.50

Segment LED pricing is coming....

[Mag_Red]

:worthy: Smoking deal April! :banana: Not that I'm complaining.........but why is yellow so cheap???? I guess my next post should be.....What color LED's with a yellow Prostar? :D

[LloydP]

April, make sure you post something about this at mymastercraft.com as well, you know some of that group will be interested as well.

Lloyd

[wakefunX-2]

Hey April, what about white LED's? And what about the clusters, do they have any with a white housing?

[aprgriggs]

Hey April, what about white LED's? And what about the clusters, do they have any with a white housing?

colors are blue, green, orange, purple, white, red and yellow. The yellow and red are less because they are more common. They only have chrome or black housings on the cluster lights. Black only on the step lights.

[aprgriggs]

:worthy: Smoking deal April! :banana: Not that I'm complaining.........but why is yellow so cheap???? I guess my next post should be.....What color LED's with a yellow Prostar? :D

I would do yellow or blue. Or you could do both together.

The picture below is blue and white combo, just blue, and red.
Maybe a blue and yellow combo. ???

Can anyone post these pictures.

[aprgriggs]

For those of you that would like to know how to install these lights or where they should go.

Here is the mastercraft manual...http://www.owllighting.com/mastercraft/install.pdf

Now you can see how many lights you need.
Hope this helps. How many???

[Mag_Red]

I would do yellow or blue. Or you could do both together.

The picture below is blue and white combo, just blue, and red.
Maybe a blue and yellow combo. ???

Can anyone post these pictures.Great......now I have combinations of color to consider! :purplaugh

[DanC]

April, thanks for the pdf install document. That is a super document. Sure would be nice if TTadmin could capture things like this in a How To section.

[Farmer Ted]

FWIW -

I purchased 6 cluster lights and 5 SMT lights for my ProStar 190 from these guys, and the lights are awesome.

I installed the cluster lights under the side panels shooting towards the engine cover to "blanket" the carpet with light.
Then I installed 2 SMT lights behind each of the side panels so that the light was directed to the interior of the side panels. Then installed another SMT in the drivers footwell.

Hooked all of the lights up to the ANC position of the NAV light switch. When I am running at night, I get the NAV lights plus my LED's. Or, I can cut the NAV lights and hang out with just the LED lights. I am ready for a summer night with the lady!

:dance:

Any pictures? I'd like to get some for the rig

[_JR]

nah, I have been too lazy to take pics...I will go out tomorrow evening and snap a few for ya.

[atlfootr]

FWIW -I purchased 6 cluster lights and 5 SMT lights for my ProStar 190 from these guys, and the lights are awesome.:dance:Let's see some pic's, of these "awesome lights"! :wavey:

[Andyg]

According to the installation manual the X7, X9 and 197 require the following lights.

14 Cluster Lights (7 White, 7 Boat Color)
8 Step Lights (All Boat Color)
2 Full Length SMT (White)

Based on the light placement location identified on the same page of the manual these numbers don't match. Below is the list of parts you will need if you follow the light placement.

4 Cluster Lights (Boat Color)
7 Cluster Lights (White Color)
14 Step Lights (Boat Color)
2 Full Length SMT (White)

Andyg

[MYMC]

Put it in the "How to section"...how about including it in the box with the parts!
I didn't know it existed until a customer emailed me and told me that the manual link was posted here...today! We have installed and sold 6 sets of this stuff what a PITA :mad:
And just try handing a new boat buyer the bill for all the labor involved... :eek3:
This is not a kit, this simply some lights and wire...know and understand that going in :rant:

[east tx skier]

We have a "how-to" section?

[aprgriggs]

Order Update:

29 ordered so far.

I will make the order Friday of next week. If you need longer please let me know now so we can be fair to those who have already ordered.

Keep them coming.

[aprgriggs]

Put it in the "How to section"...how about including it in the box with the parts!
I didn't know it existed until a customer emailed me and told me that the manual link was posted here...today! We have installed and sold 6 sets of this stuff what a PITA :mad:
And just try handing a new boat buyer the bill for all the labor involved... :eek3:
This is not a kit, this simply some lights and wire...know and understand that going in :rant:

thank you MYMC....he is right these are just lights. You will have to do the wiring or maybe have them installed with the money you are saving. :)

[aprgriggs]

Segment LED pricing...

12" Segment with Flex Mount(Can be cut into 8 different sections with 3 lights on each section)

0-50 LED's Orders

Red & Yellow $36
White $56
All other color $46

51+ LED's Orders
Red & Yellow $34
White $54
All other color $44

In this picture the segment LED can only be cut into 3 sections...For this buy the can be cut into 8 sections. Hope this gives you some idea of how big they are. Check the install manual above for cutting directions.

[flyinryn]

Sorry this might be a dumb questions but what do these lights normally run for price.

Also any idea what the light colors on a dash of 92 190?

[DanC]

Doug, I mentioned a How To section, not the How To section. I wish we had one. Only the Malibu site has one (originally run and paid for by members, not Malibu, and I think still is, or maybe now partially funded by Malibu). Maybe it is the liability issue as you previously mentioned. Hey TTAdmin, what about it? Maybe you could check on at least putting other mfgs instructions in the download section. Such as Clarion, Perfect Pass (seen in Nautique's download section) Owl Lighting, depth finders.......

[aprgriggs]

Here is the retail cost on the lights..

Cluster & Step = $17 each
Segment = $60 each (have 9 lights, and flexable)

Now you see why I was trying to see how many were interested....to see if it was even possible to get them cheap...Breakdown pricing coming soon.

Check the link above for product information. These lights have a life time warranty. They will replace them for any reason.

This is the retail cost.

[east tx skier]

Doug, I mentioned a How To section, not the How To section. I wish we had one. Only the Malibu site has one (originally run and paid for by members, not Malibu, and I think still is, or maybe now partially funded by Malibu). Maybe it is the liability issue as you previously mentioned. Hey TTAdmin, what about it? Maybe you could check on at least putting other mfgs instructions in the download section. Such as Clarion, Perfect Pass (seen in Nautique's download section) Owl Lighting, depth finders.......

I gotcha. MBO is still independent if I understand things correctly (at least as of this time last year). I think a "how-to" section would be great, but in my opinion, should be a folder that has files uploaded by ttadmin, not just whoever. That way, it stays organized. The "It Worked for Me" folder on the old board was a great idea, but it got just as cluttered with responses as the other folders within a few weeks and wasn't a definitive how to. In other words, you had to sift through the posts to extract the info.

[DanC]

I agree, inputs to a "How To" need to be filtered and approved by TTAdmin.

[wakefunX-2]

Hey April, when do you need to have the order in for the lights? I know i want to get some of the segmented lights i just need to find out how many i need.

I have just finished 90% of the LED's that im going to install on my boat, so i will post some pictures on monday or so. I didnt install them the same way that owl or Mastercraft has been doing them, i used the stock light housings so you dont see the LED's at all. I didnt like how Owl just put most of the LED housings out where you see them.

[aprgriggs]

Hey April, when do you need to have the order in for the lights? I know i want to get some of the segmented lights i just need to find out how many i need.

I have just finished 90% of the LED's that im going to install on my boat, so i will post some pictures on monday or so. I didnt install them the same way that owl or Mastercraft has been doing them, i used the stock light housings so you dont see the LED's at all. I didnt like how Owl just put most of the LED housings out where you see them.


I don't like to see the light, mine will all be hidden. I will not be ordering untill Friday of next week or maybe even Monday of the following week. So, you have time. I would love to see your pictures.

[_JR]

Agreed, the housing for these lights should NOT be seen!

[aprgriggs]

Update: We have 39 lights.

You still have time. I will be sending the order conformations off on Monday.

[aprgriggs]

The price is dropping....we have 54 lights.

[east tx skier]

April, keep up the good work. As I mentioned on another thread, yours and Andre's will be the first successful group buys on this board. I tried one unsuccessfully last year and know the work that goes into putting one together. Nice job!

[Ski-A-Rees]

I would be willing to buy some but I have an 89 and don't know where to use them! Anyone else out there with a 89 PS 190?

[h20_skidog]

April and/or anyone else,

I'm trying to compile a list of LED lights to purchase and their total cost.
Look at this PDF of my Excel sheet and please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks, Nick

Revised 02/23/2005
Estimate complete...removed PDF.

[flyinryn]

Boat to fair away see go and look.

Any body know the color of lights on the dash of a 92 prostar 190.

[aprgriggs]

April and/or anyone else,

I'm trying to compile a list of LED lights to purchase and their total cost.
Look at this PDF of my Excel sheet and please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks, Nick

Looks right...we have made it to the discount level...so you pricing looks right. If you would like to place an order please send me an email aprgriggs@yahoo.com

[aprgriggs]

I would be willing to buy some but I have an 89 and don't know where to use them! Anyone else out there with a 89 PS 190?

you can put them any where....check out the manual is has both DD and V-Drive boats. You can probably use the manual to help you get started. Good Luck

http://www.owllighting.com/mastercraft/install.pdf

[sfitzgerald351]

I've got an 84 and think I'm just going to put some on the back of the boat under the swim platform (2 blue and 2 white clusters) and then put 4 steps under the sides shining on the floor. And finally 1 white cluster in the glove "bin" under the mirror. Or should I use blue there?

Thanks April!

[Mag_Red]

April, on the segment lights, beings they have to be cut into pieces, do we need to order a set of end caps for each segment we need to cut?? It would appear so to me............but what the hell do I know. :confused:

[sfitzgerald351]

Does anyone see a problem with mounting the cluster lights under the waterline on the transom of the boat (just under the swim platform)? I figure it'd be fun to have some "swim lights" at night. I was thinking that I'd just use West System 5200 caulk to seal the screw holes and the hole I run the wires through the transom in. Will this work?

[aprgriggs]

April, on the segment lights, beings they have to be cut into pieces, do we need to order a set of end caps for each segment we need to cut?? It would appear so to me............but what the hell do I know. :confused:

I would think so too, but I am going to ask today. Give me some time. Please send you order to aprgriggs@yahoo.com

April

[aprgriggs]

Does anyone see a problem with mounting the cluster lights under the waterline on the transom of the boat (just under the swim platform)? I figure it'd be fun to have some "swim lights" at night. I was thinking that I'd just use West System 5200 caulk to seal the screw holes and the hole I run the wires through the transom in. Will this work?

no problem...look at these pictures. Also please send your order to aprgriggs@yahoo.com.

April

[aprgriggs]

I am sending out order conformations today (monday, feb 28) to those for you that have placed orders, however because the site has been down I will still take new orders.

Please contact me at aprgriggs@yahoo.com

[SteveO]

April,

Any bites on the boat? I took mine to LL Valet yesterday, and will take her out next week. Ski ya later

[aprgriggs]

April,

Any bites on the boat? I took mine to LL Valet yesterday, and will take her out next week. Ski ya later

working hard on it...got a few working...things should pick up as we are heading into spring.

[aprgriggs]

April, on the segment lights, beings they have to be cut into pieces, do we need to order a set of end caps for each segment we need to cut?? It would appear so to me............but what the hell do I know. :confused:

more end caps for segment lights are no problem...he will throw them in for free. Put the number you will need on your order conformation.

[aprgriggs]

Ok, all order confirmations have been sent out. Let me know if you placed an order and didn't get the final confirmation.

We have a total of 210 lights...Wow. I will place the order when I have all the money. If you have a question please email me at aprgriggs@yahoo.com

Thanks for participating we saved alot of money. :)

[aprgriggs]

Ok, group buy is closed. We got over 20 lights.

For those for you that ordered please make sure I get your confirmation sheet with your payment. April

[aprgriggs]

Ok, I am just waiting on 3 checks..which all but one are supposed to be in the mail. I will hopefully order the lights by Tuesday. I am hoping to get them to you by the next weekend. I will now for sure on Monday.

[aprgriggs]

Placing the order on Wednesday (3-9-05). So they should ship by Friday.

[sfitzgerald351]

Cool!

Not that I guess it really matters much to me when it ships. We just got another 6" of snow last night and I have to go shovel again. It's going to be awhile before the boat gets unwrapped!

Thanks for doing this April!

[LloydP]

Great. Thanks April!

Lloyd

[aprgriggs]

ok, I know we aren't doing any more group buy's, however we are very close to the end and I want to make sure everyone gets what they paid for.

So Update: The order was placed however the lights will not be in today (Friday). I should be able to ship my Monday, but I will let all of you know. Thanks for understanding.

[mitch]

After this illegal group buy is complete, post some pics of the installed lights. I'd like to see em.

[mtrask]

I have a X-9/Prostar 209. Is this still on??

[bradamerry]

ok, I know we aren't doing any more group buy's, however we are very close to the end and I want to make sure everyone gets what they paid for.

So Update: The order was placed however the lights will not be in today (Friday). I should be able to ship my Monday, but I will let all of you know. Thanks for understanding.
April finish this group buy, has nothing to do with this thread!!!! ;)

[André]

I agree.With all the work you did in this.
Congrats to you April!

[bradamerry]

I just want to them work at Greeson!!!!! :dance:

[aprgriggs]

I just want to them work at Greeson!!!!! :dance:

Well if I ever sell my X10...my new boat will have blue and White LED's. At least if I get lost after the fireworks end...you guys can fid me. :eek:

[aprgriggs]

I have a X-9/Prostar 209. Is this still on??

the group buy is over, however send me an email and I will see if we can't get you a price break. aprgriggs@yahoo.com

[Andyg]

I got all of my lights today. Now I can't wait to spend 3 days running wire and installing these bad boys. Thanks April for organizing this group buy.

andyg

[André]

Even if i didn't participate,i know what it's like to organize those kind of thing .
So ,just for you April :banana: :banana:

[Cary K.]

I see the X-10 is sold April, Congrats on that !!!

[aprgriggs]

I got all of my lights today. Now I can't wait to spend 3 days running wire and installing these bad boys. Thanks April for organizing this group buy.

andyg

Please post install pictures. I am taking my X9 to Neil to have my lights installed hopefully at the end of this week. Pictures soon.

[h20_skidog]

April, congrats on purchasing an X9 and selling the X10! As far as installing my LED lights, I've only done one blower vent. The photo below shows the before and after with a light in the background and then with the light in the background off. Thanks again for organizing this group buy! :toast:

[aprgriggs]

April, congrats on purchasing an X9 and selling the X10! As far as installing my LED lights, I've only done one blower vent. The photo below shows the before and after with a light in the background and then with the light in the background off. Thanks again for organizing this group buy! :toast:

that looks great. thanks for sharing.

I was hoping to have my LED's install this week, but the stereo guys haven't even started. So, Neil will probably not get to start before Friday. I am so mad, I wanted the electronics done so Texas Mastercraft could finish the SS rubrail and get it cleaned so I can finally take delivery. :mad:

Keep the pictures coming. :)

[Ric]

Received my LED's yesterday, thanks again April.

One dumb question..... When I look at the "red" cluster lights, the bulbs look white to me. I can test them to a battery but it's easier to just ask here.....

that looks great. thanks for sharing.

I was hoping to have my LED's install this week, but the stereo guys haven't even started. So, Neil will probably not get to start before Friday. I am so mad, I wanted the electronics done so Texas Mastercraft could finish the SS rubrail and get it cleaned so I can finally take delivery. :mad:

Keep the pictures coming. :)

[aprgriggs]

I think that is right....I will ask Neil. Let me know if you break down and put power to them.

[Ric]

A resurrection of sorts
I have my led's in a box in my garage and after my rewarding oil change experience, I am ready to install these things! 1.5yrs later!

Has anyone done it and if so...
Can I wire them directly to one of my acc switches in my instrument panel?

Do I need fuses for each line?

Can I run a fairly lightweight speaker wire to these little gems?

Can I, Should I, wire the long runs in parallel, or series?

OR should I make a seperate run of wire for each and every LED from the LED to the switch?

[east tx skier]

Make sure you do a circle of them on your rims for night driving (driving at night with the 18 year old daughter of the Dean).

[Ric]

shut up, I got some 20's on the way fo mah trailah

[east tx skier]

Local dealer has a wakeboard boat for sale with 20s on the trailer. Makes a huge boat look even bigger.

[Ric]

well I'm talking bout mah femah trailah

[Ric]

helloooooo, anybody know how to wire these things? I will PM leroy, I betcha he knows.

[Davo]

I did 'em in my boat....under the side walls, the helm and observer seat. I just wired them to an unused accessory switch. The thinner speaker wire should work fine and I didn't use any additional fuses.

[Ric]

I did 'em in my boat....under the side walls, the helm and observer seat. I just wired them to an unused accessory switch. The thinner speaker wire should work fine and I didn't use any additional fuses.
That's good info! THanks

[Andyg]

You will have absolutely no problem hooking them up to an accessory switch. LEDs are very low current draw lights. I have mine hooked up to two accessory switches where the ballast switches are on a 197. One switch controls the LEDs inside the boat and the other switch controls the LEDs in the grab rail, blower exhaust vents and the ones under the platform.


They are a pain to wire since they only have a few inches of wire sticking out the back. I used shrink tube butt splices for all of my connections to keep water out of them. If you do it this way just be careful not to melt the wires since they are so small.

[Ric]

sounds great
I am thinking a few under the gunwales, one in each speaker and one in the ice chest (maybe one under the drivers side but I thought that might be a lopsided look)
You will have absolutely no problem hooking them up to an accessory switch. LEDs are very low current draw lights. I have mine hooked up to two accessory switches where the ballast switches are on a 197. One switch controls the LEDs inside the boat and the other switch controls the LEDs in the grab rail, blower exhaust vents and the ones under the platform.


They are a pain to wire since they only have a few inches of wire sticking out the back. I used shrink tube butt splices for all of my connections to keep water out of them. If you do it this way just be careful not to melt the wires since they are so small.

[Davo]

I am thinking a few under the gunwales, one in each speaker and one in the ice chest (maybe one under the drivers side but I thought that might be a lopsided look)

The dash is lit up at night so I don't think it looks lopsided....I did red LED's to match the dash lights.

How are you going to put them in a speaker? Are you talking about the ones mounted inside the boat or on a tower?

[Ric]

well I am not altogether sure on how to mount them in the speakers
talking about the speakers in the boat, I have no tower speakers

I placed one on the backside of the center of the JL speaker grill in the rear location of the boat.

I have only jumpered it to the battery to see how it would look and it looked good

I wondered if it would stay in the speaker grill, being that it's only mounted with double sided tape.... That was about 3 weeks and many hours of skiing ago and it's still mounted properly, so I think it's gonna work.

If memory serves, those JL speakers are semi transparent cones??? If they are, then I may try placing the LED's behind the cones in a more stable mount of some kind. The light will not be as intense but I predict it may look even better!!??

[aprgriggs]

To mount them in the speakers you have to run the wire through one of the screw holes. Yes they will stay but make sure you leave some extra on the wire so the short wires don't pull the lights off the grill.

On my X9 I ran all my light to the accessory switches. Make sure that the switches have a fuse inline or on the panel so you don't blow out a switch if a wire comes loose.

Also, you can run the to a 12V battery. I did that for the light under my platform. It really keeps things simple but it is a pain to connect them all the time.

[Ric]

Thanks!
Haven't seen you around here in awhile!

Funny how I'm just now getting to the install :o
To mount them in the speakers you have to run the wire through one of the screw holes. Yes they will stay but make sure you leave some extra on the wire so the short wires don't pull the lights off the grill.

On my X9 I ran all my light to the accessory switches. Make sure that the switches have a fuse inline or on the panel so you don't blow out a switch if a wire comes loose.

Also, you can run the to a 12V battery. I did that for the light under my platform. It really keeps things simple but it is a pain to connect them all the time.

[Davo]

I would think that in the grill would look best. They aren't that bright, so behind the cone doesn't seem like it would be too noticable....it might be worth a try though just to see.

[BuoyChaser]

anyone have any pics, especially of an X7 or 197???

[Ric]

I am trying both in the grill of the rear speakers and behind the cone of the bow speakers... Whichever looks best, I will change the other. I guess it depends on what you like more than anything...

I will try to get pics chaser, but I bet they'll be worth a thousand words...

I will post this in the proper stereo thread but you don't actually have to remove that kick panel where the sub is mounted in the 197 in order to access the tunnel thru conduit that's below the ice chest. You can see it if you remove the front cushion and do a circ de solel position...

[wakespecialty]

We have done a few installs for TXMC and have a unique strip that we put in the JL grills. Super simple install, just drill a small hole next to one of the bottom screw holes to exit the LED wire. There are three LED's that fire up the face of the cone so light displacement if very even and clean. Easily one of the cheapest and most effective placements for an MC owner with JL's.

[wakespecialty]

one more a little darker.

[Leroy]

Yell if you need help Ric!


I haven't installed mine but I'm planning on running under the gunnel all around, behind the speakers and in all storage areas. I have around 40 led's left.

For the wiring I'm just going to tap onto one of the inside lights and use speaker wire to run positive and negative around using a little hot melt to hold in place. Then where I want a led you seperate the speaker wires, strip a bit and solder bridge a resistor and LED between the positive and negative. The led's are polarized. It does not matter if LED or resistor is first or last.

I did find out my 2001 Maristar actually has a few led cluster around in different places!



helloooooo, anybody know how to wire these things? I will PM leroy, I betcha he knows.

[RobertT]

I originally placed about ten purple LED clusters around my boat, and although it did give a little glow it was almost imperceptible.

So, I decided to replace them with some big dogs. I bought a underbody light kit that rednecks put under their cars. Its perfect, long strips about 48" long with about 400 led lights in each. Super easy to mount, I just used double sided tape on the mounts that came with each. I also bought the 6" strip kit, they charged me 250 bucks for everything that I needed.

I put a 4' strip up under each gunnel (197/X7)
I also put a 4' strip under the rear seat

I then put a 6" strip in each of the rear vents so that it shines down on the swim platform

I put 2 - 6" strips on the steering mechanism under the dash shining down, then another 6" strip in the glove box.

I have 5 more clusters for the front of the boat when I get bored.

I used the factory wiring that fed the factory little LED lights in each gunnel.

The install took a little time, due to the complexity of this system.

I opted for the 15million color model, which is in reality just clusters of 4 leds in primary colors that mix through the computer to form any color you want.

I now have two separate remote controls, plus a computer module by the dash to control everything.

There are 15 settings are so to make the light dance around the boat, in circles or whatever. The kids dig it, it drives me nuts. I just set it on blue/purple and let it ride.

I thought it might be a little over the top, but its perfect. Really bright though, but also easy to turn down.

We watched the fireworks from the boat, and the kids had it set so the lights went bright with each vibration (made to dance the light to the music). It was picking up the fireworks and flashing along with the lights in the sky. Pretty cool.

I will take some pictures this evening. Its a neat system with the changeable colors, if you want green...yellow...blue....white....whatever. Just click the remote.

Here is the kit I bought....

http://www.enterthenightlife.com/store.php?goto=10&item=2muck

check out the options on the bottom of the page. Hoosier as heck, but the kids love it.

http://www.enterthenightlife.com/store.php?goto=10&item=3mmk

[Ric]

We have done a few installs for TXMC and have a unique strip that we put in the JL grills. Super simple install, just drill a small hole next to one of the bottom screw holes to exit the LED wire. There are three LED's that fire up the face of the cone so light displacement if very even and clean. Easily one of the cheapest and most effective placements for an MC owner with JL's.

nice work specialty!
Can you shoot us a pic of the led cluster you used inside the speaker grilles?

Mine are a cluster of 4 led's and there is no way they would fit where you mounted them (at least not without the speaker gasket banging them all day)

With my clusters, I mounted them in the dead middle of the inside of the speaker grill, so they are aiming toward the cone... That leaves a black spot in the middle of the grill when they are lit but I am not sure anyone would recognize that problem unless I told them that was the actual cluster... What do yall think?

I have not yet lit up the front to see what they look like when lit up behind the cone(I am anxious to see that subtle look)
OF COURSE THEY ARE RED!!

[Ric]

Leroy, is there a way to see if my clusters already have a resistor in them?

I know you got yours at a different place than me, so maybe mine come with the resistor built into the cluster?

Can I run a ohm meter across the +/- wires?

Yell if you need help Ric!


I haven't installed mine but I'm planning on running under the gunnel all around, behind the speakers and in all storage areas. I have around 40 led's left.

For the wiring I'm just going to tap onto one of the inside lights and use speaker wire to run positive and negative around using a little hot melt to hold in place. Then where I want a led you seperate the speaker wires, strip a bit and solder bridge a resistor and LED between the positive and negative. The led's are polarized. It does not matter if LED or resistor is first or last.

I did find out my 2001 Maristar actually has a few led cluster around in different places!

[wakespecialty]

u know i've been waiting for clemens all year as i am a fantasy geek. anyway, these mount just behind the JL nameplate so there r no dark spots. 3M vhb tape is pre-mounted and ready to go. the wire lead is 36" so should be enough to tap in to your power source.

[tex]

I miss April!

[SteveO]

I miss April!

Well she did post 6-29. Where you at girl? You can't let wakebroad take the top female spot. We have to keep the crown local

[Ric]

u know i've been waiting for clemens all year as i am a fantasy geek. anyway, these mount just behind the JL nameplate so there r no dark spots. 3M vhb tape is pre-mounted and ready to go. the wire lead is 36" so should be enough to tap in to your power source.
so that particular item is a thin enough profile to not interfere with the driver when the music is cranking?
I may need to get a handful of those, I want to see what my install looks like before I order those though.

[Ric]

If these pics were at all legible, you'd see what I mean, but the first pic is the bow speaker(photo taken from the driver's seat). It's more faint and honestly I like it better than the rear speaker I will show in the second pic.

I installed the led in the bow speakers BEHIND the speaker on that molding of the speaker frame that has a nice flat clean surface to mount the sticky tape...

The rear speaker, I safety wired the led to the inside of the speaker grill where the bulbs are aiming at the cone of the speaker...

[Ric]

The rear speaker lites are brighter but of course, you see a spot where the led housing is blocking some of the lite... not a big deal but it does not look clean. (the lite housing is more obvious to me when we are in the boat than it is to someone who has no idea that I installed the led's myself, but I still am not happy with the look)

[aprgriggs]

Sorry, guys. I have been taking a break this summer without my boat. Plus I a pregnant and it has been rough with all this heat.

now back to the question at hand... LED's. How many of you would like some? Let me know and I will see if I can still get them.

[Alteczen]

I would buy some...

[aprgriggs]

OK, please read back to the earlier pages in this thread and tell me which type of lights you might be interested in and how many.

This is not an order it will just give me an idea of how many so hopefully there will be a discount.

[Leroy]

With the diode (LED) in there you will not be able to measure the resistance accurately. Can you see a resistor? If you can see it or open up the case and then see it tell me what colors you see on the resistor. Or you can measure across the resistor directly then. I think my resistor for single led were 820 ohms.

BTW, I checked at the electronics shop in Shenzhen China this week and could buy 1000 blue LED's for $25! Actually any color, almost any size.



Leroy, is there a way to see if my clusters already have a resistor in them?

I know you got yours at a different place than me, so maybe mine come with the resistor built into the cluster?

Can I run a ohm meter across the +/- wires?

[aprgriggs]

Are you making your own LED's?

If so do you have any pictures. I tried a few times to make them but it was a pain to get the resisitor right. that is why I just buy them from a factory here in dallas.

With the diode (LED) in there you will not be able to measure the resistance accurately. Can you see a resistor? If you can see it or open up the case and then see it tell me what colors you see on the resistor. Or you can measure across the resistor directly then. I think my resistor for single led were 820 ohms.

BTW, I checked at the electronics shop in Shenzhen China this week and could buy 1000 blue LED's for $25! Actually any color, almost any size.

[Leroy]

Yes, I ordered from ebay and got 50 LED's and resistors (~$10). I haven't installed yet but plan on soldering them together and making my own solution. I did notice I had at least one LED cluster already in my 2001 230VRS.

Are you making your own LED's?

If so do you have any pictures. I tried a few times to make them but it was a pain to get the resisitor right. that is why I just buy them from a factory here in dallas.

[aprgriggs]

I think most of the new boats come with LED's in the side but adding more really makes for a good effect. Let me know if you need any help with your install. I don't have my boat anymore but I still remember where to place most of the lights.

Yes, I ordered from ebay and got 50 LED's and resistors (~$10). I haven't installed yet but plan on soldering them together and making my own solution. I did notice I had at least one LED cluster already in my 2001 230VRS.

[SteveO]

I think most of the new boats come with LED's in the side but adding more really makes for a good effect. Let me know if you need any help with your install. I don't have my boat anymore but I still remember where to place most of the lights.

April, were you and a crew on the 45 Wed Night by the dam? I was in a YELLOW X1?

[aprgriggs]

April, were you and a crew on the 45 Wed Night by the dam? I was in a YELLOW X1?

No I can't handle the heat so I haven't been out much this year. My god father had is boat out so it could have be him.

[Ric]

you guys sell alot of relatively new boats april.

[Mag_Red]

you guys sell alot of relatively new boats april.yeah I was thinking the same. Hey April....where ya been??:)

[aprgriggs]

yeah I was thinking the same. Hey April....where ya been??:)

Jim and I are having out second child in late December... I have been busy trying not to be sick.

Yes we do sell our new boat quickly. MC makes it easy to get out of the boats and into something new. I can't help it... everytime I see the new features I want a new boat and I guess my family is the same.

Plus everyone I know wants me to help them sell there boats. I guess I have just had good luck selling them.

[Ric]

cool !