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03 35th Anniversary
06-04-2007, 09:56 AM
I just want to get some input/advice from some of you Team Talk Members, on towing a boat behind a travel trailer. The travel trailer is 38' long and the boat is a 03 197. I put picture of the truck and trailer in below. I am sure some of you are like me and do not live in water front homes. I also travel for long periods of time all over the United States with my job, so I come across alot of nice places to ski. Having the ole ball and chain (sweet woman of mine) tow the boat would be nice. But I would have to trade in her paid for toyota car for a truck. Then I would also have to teach her how to drive it and how to pull a trailer. I do plan on teaching her, just not traveling across country with my boat. I see people doing this all the time. I was wondering about some of the ins and outs/do's and don'ts. I have plent of experience pulling trailers just never pulled doubles like this before, most of the time they were just a couple of jet ski trailers.



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Maristar210
06-04-2007, 10:13 AM
RICKDV has done this here in the Great Lakes States...

Do a search on his ID and good luck...

Steve

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-04-2007, 10:38 AM
Do NOT use a 1500HD for that job.

03 35th Anniversary
06-04-2007, 11:55 AM
Do NOT use a 1500HD for that job.

Who in their right mind would even want to try that????:confused: I tried pulling that trailer with a 2500HD 2wd and the trailer was too much for that truck.........

TMCNo1
06-04-2007, 01:09 PM
It can be done, but there are some laws in some states that have a total length on all 3 vehicles when hitched together, IIRC. I think someone has shown a chart showing this info from the Feds or on the state/state level. This may help, http://www.wecamp2.com/size.html

Sodar
06-04-2007, 01:12 PM
It can be done, but there are some laws in some states have a 75' total length on all 3 vehicles when hitched together, IIRC. I think someone has shown a chart showing this info from the Feds or on the state/state level.

I know that California has a 65' total vehicle limit, we got pulled over last year for pulling a 35' center console behind a 42' diesel pusher coach... OOPS!!

ski_king
06-04-2007, 01:23 PM
RickDV's setup
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=13442&stc=1&d=1157476240

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-04-2007, 01:26 PM
Who in their right mind would even want to try that????:confused: well, I am sure Ric would try it. He thinks 1500HDs can tow fully laden semi trailers.

Sodar
06-04-2007, 01:27 PM
well, I am sure Ric would try it. He thinks 1500HDs can tow fully laden semi trailers.

And 12 foot fishing boats.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-04-2007, 01:32 PM
And 12 foot fishing boats.
Yea! :cool:

suedv
06-04-2007, 01:38 PM
Your trailer seems like it would be too long to do a double tow. When we shopped for our 5th wheel we bought it specifically to do a double tow. Our 5th wheel is something like a 27' long. Our truck has a standard box which helps with the total length limit. I think when all is said we are about 2-3 feet under the legal limit here in Michigan. We wanted to give ourselves a little wiggle room in the event we get a different truck or boat at some point.

Here is another photo with our double tow.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-04-2007, 01:55 PM
Nice looking boat Sue!:) I like the color combo! Nice ride!:)

03 35th Anniversary
06-04-2007, 01:59 PM
Your trailer seems like it would be too long to do a double tow.

Here is another photo with our double tow.

What about getting in and out of campgrounds and other places? How often do you run into probelms getting around?

suedv
06-04-2007, 02:21 PM
What about getting in and out of campgrounds and other places? How often do you run into probelms getting around?


Getting around in campgrounds isn't difficult... it just takes extra time and thinking about what you are doing. You can't back up with the boat and trailer together. We unhitch the boat, back the trailer into the campsite and then hitch the boat up and move it to the campsite. Sometimes there isn't a good place really close to your campsite to do all this so you need to look things over first.

Also, crowded/small gas stations... forget about it. You can't back up and you sure don't want the hassle of putting everything together just to get gas. You have to pay attention to your gas level so you have the luxury of selecting the right gas station.

Another thing you are like a large truck and you need to take the corners wider. You just have to think about what you're doing.

By the way, make sure you have good mirrors. They help a lot.

suedv
06-04-2007, 02:25 PM
Nice looking boat Sue!:) I like the color combo! Nice ride!:)


Thanks, we like it. It is a nice size boat for our uses. We do need to get a bimini top really soon. For now I'm supposed to be staying out of direct sun. I haven't been able to do much in the boat this year.

03 35th Anniversary
06-04-2007, 04:34 PM
It can be done, but there are some laws in some states that have a total length on all 3 vehicles when hitched together, IIRC. I think someone has shown a chart showing this info from the Feds or on the state/state level. This may help, http://www.wecamp2.com/size.html


Looking at that link there. It looks like South Dakota and Wyoming are the only 2 states I would be legal in............Is the ski platform on a 197 inclued in that 19'-8" overal lenght??????LOL!!! j/k

Sodar
06-04-2007, 04:49 PM
From what I have heard, they do not bother your when you are a few feet over the limit. Now, if you are like 10 or 15 feet over, I have heard you will have problems.

suedv
06-04-2007, 06:02 PM
Maybe one of the insurance people on here can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the biggest expense is if you get in an accident. We were told when making our purchase that the police typically aren't going to pull you over if you look pretty much the right length. Even if you get a ticket... not the end of the world. However if you get in an accident and you're too long... your insurance probably won't cover it.

03 35th Anniversary
06-04-2007, 06:10 PM
From what I have heard, they do not bother your when you are a few feet over the limit. Now, if you are like 10 or 15 feet over, I have heard you will have problems.


It looks I will have to buy a shorter truck.......I was impressed to see that California allows doubles. I lived in Moreno Valley for 2 years in 03-04. Everybody told us it was illegal. It seams like I am going to be 3-4 feet over.:steering:

Maristar210
06-04-2007, 06:52 PM
Who in their right mind would even want to try that????:confused: I tried pulling that trailer with a 2500HD 2wd and the trailer was too much for that truck.........

864512111 StormTriple from Utah thinks you can tow 14,000 # with a 1500 no problem. He kept telling me I was crazing for thinking a towing capacity could be approached and eclipsed in some cases without issue. I must be nuts. Storm 86745321 man you are smart.

03 35th Anniversary
06-04-2007, 07:07 PM
864512111 StormTriple from Utah thinks you can tow 14,000 # with a 1500 no problem. He kept telling me I was crazing for thinking a towing capacity could be approached and eclipsed in some cases without issue. I must be nuts. Storm 86745321 man you are smart.


When I picked this trailer up brand new the dry weight was 15,500lbs. I pulled it with a 2001 2wd 3/4 ton.... Going down the interstate if you catch a dip in the road it would bottom out the rear springs. Now the trailer has water in the tanks, dishes, clothes, ect...... It works the rear springs on my 1 ton 4wd DRW truck, I couldn't imagine 14,000lbs. on a 1/2 ton not even an HD 1/2 ton.

Sodar
06-04-2007, 07:12 PM
When I picked this trailer up brand new the dry weight was 15,500lbs. I pulled it with a 2001 2wd 3/4 ton.... Going down the interstate if you catch a dip in the road it would bottom out the rear springs. Now the trailer has water in the tanks, dishes, clothes, ect...... It works the rear springs on my 1 ton 4wd DRW truck, I couldn't imagine 14,000lbs. on a 1/2 ton not even an HD 1/2 ton.

Sometimes ya just gotta man up!! :D :D

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03 35th Anniversary
06-04-2007, 07:29 PM
Sometimes ya just gotta man up!! :D :D



Thats alot of BLING BLING.............
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I would man up but some little s**t head came in the backyard last night and stole all the money off the money tree.:mad: :mad:

6ballsisall
06-04-2007, 07:58 PM
From Maristar210:

864512111 StormTriple from Utah thinks you can tow 14,000 # with a 1500 no problem. He kept telling me I was crazing for thinking a towing capacity could be approached and eclipsed in some cases without issue. I must be nuts. Storm 86745321 man you are smart.


^^^^^^^^^^Now thats funny right there, I don't care who you are!!! Thats funny!!!!!!:woohoo: :woohoo:

I speak from experience pulling doubles (and triples once!) but they weren't travel trailers and boats. (Sno-cats and snow cat trailers sometimes w/ an occasional enclosed snowmobile trailer in the mix. Did it somewhat often in a Dodge 2500 or 3500. There was pucker factor involved w/ the 2500 and less w/ the Dually (read: brakes and stability) Doubles isn't that bad just don't get caught in a scenario where you can't turn around (good luck backing that rig up!!) :rolleyes: Avoid high wind situations like the plaque. Slow the rig down considerably on the interstate and drive conservatively and all should be ok. (except in a 1500 :D )

Maristar210
06-04-2007, 08:19 PM
From Maristar210:

864512111 StormTriple from Utah thinks you can tow 14,000 # with a 1500 no problem. He kept telling me I was crazing for thinking a towing capacity could be approached and eclipsed in some cases without issue. I must be nuts. Storm 86745321 man you are smart.


^^^^^^^^^^Now thats funny right there, I don't care who you are!!! Thats funny!!!!!!:woohoo: :woohoo:

I speak from experience pulling doubles (and triples once!) but they weren't travel trailers and boats. (Sno-cats and snow cat trailers sometimes w/ an occasional enclosed snowmobile trailer in the mix. Did it somewhat often in a Dodge 2500 or 3500. There was pucker factor involved w/ the 2500 and less w/ the Dually (read: brakes and stability) Doubles isn't that bad just don't get caught in a scenario where you can't turn around (good luck backing that rig up!!) :rolleyes: Avoid high wind situations like the plaque. Slow the rig down considerably on the interstate and drive conservatively and all should be ok. (except in a 1500 :D )


Hey I'm not kidding. This guy swore he towed a 14,000# dozer on a tri axle with his 1500 and he had the audacity to tell me I was wrong forthinking he needed a 2500, he told me I needed to slow down.

Hey Storm86754321 triple - figure it out yet ?

6ballsisall
06-04-2007, 08:22 PM
Hey I'm not kidding. This guy swore he towed a 14,000# dozer on a tri axle with his 1500 and he had the audacity to tell me I was wrong forthinking he needed a 2500, he told me I needed to slow down.

Hey Storm86754321 triple - figure it out yet ?

I know!! I was laughing because when I started reading the first post by 03 35th thats the exact thread and post that came to mind!!! Funny stuff!!!

flyingskibiker
06-05-2007, 01:07 AM
i must have seen 4 or 5 "double tows" going the other way once i crossed into OR today. though, the second trailers were horse trailers...???... :rolleyes: also saw a red w/ white x-star pull over to check out the view of mt. shasta! :steering:

03 35th Anniversary
06-05-2007, 02:59 PM
Maybe one of the insurance people on here can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the biggest expense is if you get in an accident. We were told when making our purchase that the police typically aren't going to pull you over if you look pretty much the right length. Even if you get a ticket... not the end of the world. However if you get in an accident and you're too long... your insurance probably won't cover it.


INSURANCE!!!!! I should probably call and ask about that.:rolleyes:

Thanks for bring that to my att......

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-05-2007, 03:12 PM
Hey I'm not kidding. This guy swore he towed a 14,000# dozer on a tri axle with his 1500 and he had the audacity to tell me I was wrong forthinking he needed a 2500, he told me I needed to slow down.

Hey Storm86754321 triple - figure it out yet ?
Lighten up, Francis. :cool: ;)

TMCNo1
06-08-2007, 10:48 PM
I ran across this and thought it would fit in well in the thread,