Perfect Pass: Group buys? [Archive]

André

02-05-2005, 11:41 AM

There's a couples of members,including me, mentionning that they are about to get Perfect pass in a near future. :toast:
Anybody interrested in maybe forming a group to try to get a good deal?
Do someone knows of a place that would be interrested to deal with such a group of buyers?
Any inputs or ideas?
Thanks! :steering:

MC_TT_Doug

02-05-2005, 11:47 AM

I think the guys at SkiertoSkier.com may work a deal for a group of MC owners. I don't need one, but I can check with Max (the owner of S2S), to see if he would be willing to give the MC group a deal. How many people are interested if they could get a deal?

André

02-05-2005, 11:57 AM

Thanks Doug!
We will have to wait a couples of days to see how many peoples are interrested (maybe it will only be me?).
But i'm pretty sure there will be some other folks looking for a good deal to
"Save their marriage"!!!
LOL

Vern Swieringa

02-05-2005, 12:00 PM

I would be interested in Perfect Pass, if it's not too difficult to install myself.

André

02-05-2005, 12:05 PM

Well,That's 2 and i read that PeteS is about to get one too.Maybe he'll join?
Vern, i know that there is a lot of installation infos on their site and a very detailled step by step on MBO.

kpickett

02-05-2005, 01:00 PM

I'm interested, too, depending on price. I've still been thinking a bit about Accuski, as well.

Kyle

Brent

02-05-2005, 01:59 PM

Try contacting perfect pass directly @ see if they can work a deal! I think Canadians get a bit of a break on prices. :D

c640947

02-05-2005, 02:33 PM

"Save the marriage" (or girlfriend) indeed - I would be interested depending on price.

Ric

02-05-2005, 02:47 PM

I'm selling one new in the marketplace if you want one for a tbw motor.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7132310418&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

RackAtak

02-05-2005, 06:27 PM

I'm interested. Wakeboard Pro Model or PerfectPass Cruise.
Ron

Jim@BAWS

02-05-2005, 07:12 PM

I am interested. Will Beat any deal within reason

Perfect Pass Pro or Wakeboard Pro

need to know engine types and years

Would LOVE To help out. We are a OFFICAL Perfect Pass Outlet

Jim or Chuck at Bay Area WaterSports

(813) 996 2297

www.bayareawatersports.com

Leroy

02-05-2005, 08:21 PM

Hey André; does this mean there is something happening? Buying a PP, marriage saver......8p

André

02-05-2005, 08:37 PM

LOL!
The only thing that is going to happen is a steady speed in the course!
Still LOL!
How was your week?

MasterMason

02-05-2005, 08:43 PM

I would be interested in the Digital Pro depending on price.

André

02-05-2005, 09:16 PM

This is becoming interresting!
Guys ,i will wait a couples of days to be sure that everyone can jump in.
I would gladly do business with Jim at BAWS if the deal is good! ;)
I am really not a Perfect Pass expert,so be sure to do your own homeworks about what you want to buy.
As Jim mentionned,be sure to post infos on your boat,year,engine,Efi or carb or anything that you think is related to choosing a Perfect Pass system.
I will wait until thuesday night before doing the stats and then try to get quotes but i'm pretty sure Jim at BAWS as an OFFICIAL Perfect Pass dealer and friend of Team Talk, will get us one of those once in a lifetime deal,uncredibly, ridiculous,unbeatable price.(Man,i'm such a sucker!)
Did i mentionned Jim at BAWS?

Ok,can i get up know?

MasterMason

02-05-2005, 10:49 PM

My boat particulars.

98 prostar 190 LT-1 Corvette EFI engine

Not sure what else needed.

Cody

02-05-2005, 11:39 PM

I am in too. I have a '91 190 with a 240hp 351 indmar.

T-Rager

02-06-2005, 03:01 AM

I am also interested. 1990 ProStar 190 with carburated 351 Ford. I only slalom and foot, no wakeboarding.

Brent

02-06-2005, 10:54 AM

Try to get it shipped direct from Perfect pass , no matter who you buy it from! Brokerage fee's from UPS & the others are way out of line , Perfect Pass is a Canadian company , so André & any other Canucks should try to save on shipping & brockerage Fee's.

Lake_Tippy_Skier

02-06-2005, 02:20 PM

i am interested depending on price

H20skeefreek

02-06-2005, 04:51 PM

while I really don't think I need it, I'd be interesting in hearing Jim's price on one for a '85 with 351.

I found a used Accuski for 450 bucks with auto-pullup, so if I get one at all, it'll probably be that one, but I would certainly like to hear how much it'd cost me to get the best brand new.

Vern Swieringa

02-07-2005, 07:52 AM

Andre,

I have a 2003 LQ9 EFI in a Maristar 230. I would be interested in the Perfectpass Plus model.

Thanks for checking into this. It will be interesting to see what you come up with.

H20skeefreek

02-07-2005, 08:12 AM

I'm suprised that PP isnt' standard on MasterCraft's Cadillac with a Cadillac motor.

martini

02-07-2005, 10:10 AM

I would be interested as well. 84 PCM 351, carbed.

Farmer Ted

02-07-2005, 11:56 AM

Digital Pro

98 190

350hp Lt-1 (the Blue Beast)

S2S quotes $1195 w/free shipping

The tax man cometh!

Good timing Andre!

Lake_Tippy_Skier

02-07-2005, 12:10 PM

i am interested depending on price

'87 w/ 351

Andyg

02-07-2005, 12:25 PM

I would be interested.

Wakeboard Pro
2003 PS197 MCX

PeteS

02-07-2005, 12:49 PM

Awesome idea, Andre. I mean that, you are right on with this one. Depending on how the pricing develops, you can count me in:

'88 Prostar 190
351 Ford (Indmar)
Depending on prices: Plus or Digital Pro (both without timer)

Let me know what I can do to help. Thanks.

Vern Swieringa

02-07-2005, 12:50 PM

Andre,

It looks like you really got something started here!!! How many units do you have so far?

I said I would like the PerfectPass Plus, but I noticed Jim@BAWS said something about getting the Pro model. That would be fine too, but I do want to see what kind of pricing we can get before committing to buying.

Thanks!!!

east tx skier

02-07-2005, 01:27 PM

Since I already have one, I'm not in on the buy, but to speak to what one person said about installation, if you're getting the digi pro model on an older boat that doesn't already have a paddle wheel, you'll have to drill a hole in the boat if you want the paddle wheel and digital speedo. If you don't wakeboard or trick, the speed-based control is, for the most part, more than you need. For slalom, the plus system with a magnet sensor will do you fine. Of course, reading on the perfect pass website, it seems that upgrades for the older plus systems are not offered for as long as they are for the digital pro models, so that might be a reason to go with the whole enchilada so you can continue to upgrade your chip for years to come. Who knows? Perfect Pass knows.

Just bear in mind that if you're like me and wince at the thought of drilling a hole in your hull, a full install should run you about 2.5 hours labor at your MC dealer. I was quoted as many as 6 hours and drove quite a few hours to get it done for 2.0 hours (approx. $175).

All that said, it's a wonderful option to have on a boat.

jake

02-07-2005, 04:15 PM

Wish you all would have done this a month ago, I just bought PerfectPass. After some discussion with Perfectpass, settled on the Plus system, since my boat is used pretty much exclusivly for slalom.

I paid 970 at MMWatersports with free shipping, which is MSRP, but they give you $100 credit towards any other merchandise...so it's sort of a discount.

This was the best deal I could find after extensive research.

BrianM

02-07-2005, 04:32 PM

Man, you would start a group buy 2 weeks after I bought mine.:rant: Oh well.

As for the install, I did it myself and think that it very simple for anyone with even a little bit of mechanical knowledge or anyone that can follow directions for that matter.

Just bear in mind that if you're like me and wince at the thought of drilling a hole in your hull,

Drilling the hole was the second easiest part of the whole thing. Again if you can drill a hole in wood you can do this easy.

a full install should run you about 2.5 hours labor at your MC dealer. I was quoted as many as 6 hours and drove quite a few hours to get it done for 2.0 hours (approx. $175

I would agree with that. I would think that there is no way a dealer should charge you over 3 hours to install the thing unless they have a chimp installing it:D . It took me just over three to install my Digital Pro and I had never done one before.

tall_ andy

02-07-2005, 05:48 PM

I am also interested.
PP Digital Pro
88MC 351 :D
Just need one more snow storm to buy both PP and Tower.
Think SNOW :eek3:

André

02-07-2005, 09:53 PM

Jim
@BAWS
I PM you!
Thanks!
14 interrested so far!!!!! :steering:

k2mc

02-08-2005, 02:41 PM

same price concerns as everyone else, but...

wakeboard pro for '04 x-10 with 5.7L 310

bradamerry

02-08-2005, 05:24 PM

I would like to know price, I just don't think I need it??
87' 351 powerslot

east tx skier

02-08-2005, 05:49 PM

Retail when I bought mine was, as it is, $1,295. I recall paying schnitz somewhere in the neighborhood of $1,125 or so delivered, but memory fails me on the exact figure. Unfortunately, he is no longer a perfect pass dealer, purportedly for selling them so cheaply (although I could be wrong on the reason).

André

02-08-2005, 06:58 PM

Ok guys,Thuesday night and here the situation.
First, i understand that many peoples want to see a price range before comitting and that is perfectly normal.
On the other hand ,i'm sure that you also understand that if we get a quote for 20 units and only 10 actually go ahead and buy,this could change the deal too!
There is some infos that i need from all of you to get a decent quote with no surprise.
1:Type of system you want.
2:Name,shipping adress,E-Mail adress.
3:Engine, boat, year.

Here is the list of peoples who replied to the thread:
Vern S,K Pickett,c 640947,Rackattack,MasterMason,Cody,T Rager,Lake Tippy skier,Martini,Farmer Ted,Andy G,PeteS,TallAndy,K2mc,Brad.
If you want to get on the list just post your infos here or PM me.

I am missing shipping adresses from everyone,kind of system for a lot of you and we need all those infos to get a realistic pricing.I can't get a quote for someone who just post "I'm interrested..." without knowing what you want.
So,Gentlemens i have to ask you to post all those infos again so i can go ahead and get quotes
There is 16 names on the list right now.I think if we can get half of us to get a system,we could saves a couples of bucks( I hope...)
Will wait until thursday night to close the list then send it for quotes.
It is possible that you will receive your quotes via E mail and also possible that you will be ask not to post prices on the board in respect of the deal.Just MAYBE!
Ok,so that's 3 infos:
Type of system
Name, shipping and Email adresses.
Engine,boat,year.

Thanks!

MasterMason

02-08-2005, 07:12 PM

Andre

I PM'd you the requested information. Thanks for your work on this, hopefully we have enough that are serious.

Farmer Ted

02-08-2005, 08:51 PM

André

Je vous ai expédié l'information que vous avez demandée. Maintenant je cherche une jeune femelle ferme au shampooing mes pierres dans mon bateau de skis. :banana: :rant:

FT

94PS190

02-08-2005, 09:30 PM

I am very interested, I need to do a little research to determine which model I want. I will get this info to you tomorrow. Great idea!

east tx skier

02-09-2005, 10:34 AM

Alrighty, Tim, I caught shampoo and peter. The man didn't say anything about your rudder. What gives? ;)

Ric

02-09-2005, 11:38 AM

Alrighty, Tim, I caught shampoo and peter. The man didn't say anything about your rudder. What gives? ;)
Ya it looks like demanding information about washing the group's ski boats?

east tx skier

02-09-2005, 11:44 AM

or the Hedgehog's little soldier. :eek:

sfitzgerald351

02-09-2005, 12:52 PM

André

Je vous ai expédié l'information que vous avez demandée. Maintenant je cherche une jeune femelle ferme au shampooing mes pierres dans mon bateau de skis. :banana: :rant:

FT

My high school french actually got me all the way through the phrase except for the part about "au shampooing mes pierres" What the heck does that mean?

Google has a rought translation tool, but it didn't help much: I dispatched you the information which you asked. Now I seek a young firm female with the shampoo my stones in my boat of skis.

Ohhh, had a thought...

Maybe it should say: I just sent you the information you needed. Now I'm looking for a hot girl to wash my stones (if you catch my drift) in my ski boat.

Farmer Ted

02-09-2005, 12:53 PM

My high school french actually got me all the way through the phrase except for the part about "au shampooing mes pierres" What the heck does that mean?

Google has a rought translation tool, but it didn't help much: I dispatched you the information which you asked. Now I seek a young firm female with the shampoo my stones in my boat of skis.

Ohhh, had a thought...

Maybe it should say: I just sent you the information you needed. Now I'm looking for a hot girl to wash my stones (if you catch my drift) in my ski boat.

I meant to put hot FRENCH girl to shampoo my stones.... :woohoo:

sfitzgerald351

02-09-2005, 01:01 PM

If all else fails, maybe Brad can do it! :eek:

I'm running away now! :steering:

André

02-09-2005, 05:45 PM

Got it Farmer Ted!
By the way ,if it's "Crabs" shampoo you're looking for,i still have some in the cabinet...OOops,Did i type that out loud?

Please back on topics Gentlemens!

André

02-09-2005, 05:51 PM

Still waiting from complete infos from:
C 640947
Cody
trager
Lake Tippy skier
Martini
K2MC
Brad

11 members in so far!!! Good.Anyone else before tomorrow night?

Farmer Ted

02-09-2005, 05:57 PM

Got it Farmer Ted!
By the way ,if it's "Crabs" shampoo you're looking for,i still have some in the cabinet...OOops,Did i type that out loud?

Please back on topics Gentlemens!

Kwell cream works pretty good, one time in Korea I stayed in a pretty nasty hotel and they didn't wash the sheets very good.....

then there was this one time in the Philippines when I drank the water, ate some banana....

Farmer Ted

02-09-2005, 05:59 PM

If all else fails, maybe Brad can do it! :eek:

I'm running away now! :steering:

Careful, Mr Hotshorts Avatar!

I think there was a "no banana hammock" clause in the TOS when you signed up.

bradamerry

02-09-2005, 06:05 PM

If all else fails, maybe Brad can do it! :eek:

I'm running away now! :steering:

I think I'm going to buy a SN now :cry: !!!!!

Mattercraft

02-10-2005, 10:50 AM

I'm interested depending on price. (and if I'm not too late) I've been looking for a wakeboard pro and haven't found for one under a grand. I have a 2001 X-star w/ 310hp motor.

T-Rager

02-10-2005, 05:40 PM

Andre,

My PP info was sent to you via PM. Thanks for your initiative.

André

02-10-2005, 06:06 PM

I'm interested depending on price. (and if I'm not too late) I've been looking for a wakeboard pro and haven't found for one under a grand. I have a 2001 X-star w/ 310hp motor.Still need a shipping and e mail adresses...Now!
Thanks!

André

02-10-2005, 06:44 PM

Gentlemens!
This site FIRST EVER group buy is coming to an end tonight at 10 pm.The response was very good i think,so far 15 members are in.For something that cost that much i think it's good.I don't expect everyone to close a deal but ...
Thanks to everyone for their inputs.
Will keep everybody update but the prices could be confidential...

Brent

02-10-2005, 08:36 PM

André

Hope you & your crew got off that PPless existance & flurish!

Power in numbers, way to go!!!

Maybe the professor would have been a better avatar for you! :worthy:

André

02-10-2005, 08:53 PM

Brent
Believe me ,Gilligan is just fine...Will send you pics of my place!

Farmer Ted

02-11-2005, 07:27 AM

Andre,

What's the damage going to be?

martini

02-11-2005, 09:34 AM

Damnit, I go out of town for a few days! I completely missed this opportunity! :mad:

Ric

02-11-2005, 09:40 AM

Damnit, I go out of town for a few days! I completely missed this opportunity! :mad:

I'd bet you could get in on this if you pm andre very very quickly

André

02-11-2005, 04:27 PM

Actually i could open the list to anybody SERIOUSLY interrested to get a Perfect Pass system for another couples of days.
So far , i found only one dealer that would accept to deal with a group buy and he's gonna need 1or 2 weeks to get back with some prices!!!
It seems that when i mentionned "17" peoples interrested" in getting a system,it scare them!
So at least for another 4 or 5 days, i will reopen the list ,so anybody wants in,just PM me with your infos!

André

02-14-2005, 07:04 PM

Bump...
Since there's a lot of traffic.
List still open.

tall_ andy

02-17-2005, 10:54 AM

Andre
Any update?
I am debating between Perfect Pass and a Tower(mabye both if when I do the taxes)
Thanks

c640947

02-17-2005, 01:09 PM

Yeah I think I am getting a nice refund and my boat is in the shop now getting a tower installed...... I am thinking about adding perfect pass while she is in there, but I would need to know soon.

André

02-17-2005, 06:52 PM

Will PM everyone involve this week end...
But as i posted earlier ,Jim@ Baws who is working on prices is very busy preparing the beginning of the season and he told me that it could take 2 weeks for him to prepare everything.
IF anydody knows of another Perfect Pass dealer that would be interrested in a list of 16 possible buyers and gives us quote,feel free to PM me...But as Jim mentionned in this thread..."Will beat any deal within reason..." so i'm confident that he will come up with something good.
But there is no obligations for anyone to wait if they want to go ahead and do their move now.

André

02-17-2005, 06:58 PM

...And i will also add that 2 major Perfect Pass dealers clearly reply that there not interrested in dealing with group buy.
2 more didn't even reply to my e mails...

Farmer Ted

02-17-2005, 08:28 PM

...And i will also add that 2 major Perfect Pass dealers clearly reply that there not interrested in dealing with group buy.
2 more didn't even reply to my e mails...

I guess they're making so much money that selling 16 units of anything is beneath them, how easy of a sale would that be? Did you try Perfect Pass directly? Hell with that many orders Andre you should tell them your starting a buisness....

NSXBill

02-18-2005, 08:49 AM

east tx skier

02-18-2005, 10:48 AM

Andre, I'm too lazy to read back over the thread, but have you checked with skier-to-skier and skidim? You can get the MasterCraft-branded guage from any perfect pass dealer in my experience.

I've seen nothing but that Jim@BAWS is a good and conscientious dealer. But I know I've heard from my nearest MC dealer of how busy they get this time of year. I've had experience with my nearest MC dealer getting too busy for me during boat show season and beyond. I've been waiting for over a year for them to call me back on that order (that's the beyond part). :cry:

Everybody's got schedules to keep and decisions to make. Your money is just as green (are Canadian dollars green?) as everyone else's though. And a $16,000 perfect pass order is nothing to sneeze at or put on the back burner, no matter what the X-series is selling for. Thank goodness for the internet and competition.

Ric

02-18-2005, 11:04 AM

Why doesn't someone on here with a small business become a dealer. Just get the one initial order for 15-20 and give everyone a GREAT deal, not just $100 off or something...

I'm interested too, depending on price
From what I've seen over the past year, I'd say PP is beginning to protect their dealers a little more. This would make it hard for a newcomer to obtain a dealer status and order one big bulk and then most likely disappear, but you guys could try it.

east tx skier

02-18-2005, 11:16 AM

Yup, schnitz apparently was cutting too good a deal on it.

NSXBill

02-18-2005, 01:08 PM

Depending on price, I'm interested in a Wakeboard Pro. PP delivers it for $1099.

André

02-19-2005, 05:10 PM

Guys
We should have our quotes from Jim by early this week.
Thanks!

André

02-21-2005, 07:29 PM

Members who are in on this,check your messages box.
Just started PM you.
Thanks!
Sorry,no quotes for the curious!LOL

MasterMason

02-22-2005, 02:19 AM

How are the returns coming in? Are the guys happy with the price and willing to pull the trigger?

bret

02-22-2005, 09:11 AM

Why is this like a little secret society? What's the price? We do group buys on a lot of Porsche items and no one keeps the price a secret...if someone doesn't understand the concept of "bulk" pricing/purchasing they need to go back and take economics 101. I might be interested if the price is right but if this is trying to protect a vendor who wants to keep hush hush, I'll "pass".

H20skeefreek

02-22-2005, 09:14 AM

yeah, it seems like it would be in the best interest of dealer to pubilcize the price. I don't really need it, but I have a bonus coming soon, and if the price is right....

Ric

02-22-2005, 09:30 AM

my guess is the super group deal is a digital pro (servo setup) for about 1000, maybe even 950 but I doubt it ???

André

02-22-2005, 04:58 PM

Sorry guys,didn't had time to PM everyone.And the pager just went off again,have to go back to work but will log back later.
Sorry Farmer,T-Rager,86 Powerslot,Lake Tippy skier,H2o skidog,K2MC.

Bret:Ask Jim!!!

Jim@BAWS

02-22-2005, 07:45 PM

Bret why are you entering the conversation if you are not interested in pricing? You could have emailed me with questions instead of blasting me. You don't even know me or my dealership or the service we give. Perfer if you would stay out with that attitude. I do not see this as PORCHE.COM/TALK/911parts cheap

I do not need a ECONOMICS lesson from you. PP has advertized pricing MSRP. Believe it or not there is not a 40 PT margin on these units. Very, very slim indeed. I am doing it as a favor to all who have supported Bay Area WaterSports over our first 20 months in business. Doesnt sound like I owe you much at all. My economics is just fine and so is my business philosophy. If I only SOLD Perfect Passes for a living I would not be here next week. If you want in on the units, email Andre. He is the leader and has done a ton of work on his time, NOT MINE gathering the list. He has the pricing to pass on in confidence. The pricing is great.

Hope you will get off the POT and quit whinning

Jim@BAWS :eek3: :rant:

André

02-22-2005, 09:53 PM

Ok everobody should have their quotes in their PM box.If not PM me PLease.
Thanks to Jim for working out what seems to be a real good deal!
Got 6 answers back and 5 are positives so it's looking good!
Thanks and please send your answer to me ASAP!

east tx skier

02-23-2005, 10:40 AM

Having attempted a different group buy in the past, kudos to Andre and Jim for pulling it together. If it goes through, it will be the first successfully completed group buy on this site. Hopefully, more will follow (I'm not forgetting yours, April).

Ric

02-23-2005, 10:48 AM

east tx skier

02-23-2005, 10:54 AM

Ric, that was my guess as far as the reason for not publishing the price. The last guy who was offering too sweet a deal isn't allowed to sell them anymore. But that's just a guess, and whatever Jim's reason is, it's his business and he can run it as he wishes. Furthermore, if Bret doesn't want in, he doesn't have to buy one.

/now where's that popcorn. :popcorn:

Vern Swieringa

02-23-2005, 12:04 PM

It never ceases to amaze me how a good deed can turn so sour. Jim and Andre have worked hard at trying to put together a good deal for people they don't even know, out of good will, I suppose. How can you critisize that? :noface: We should all thank them for their goodness, wheather we're in on the deal or not!!! Remember to pass the kindness we recieve on to others, then the world will be a much better place :D

Ric

02-23-2005, 12:06 PM

RackAtak

02-23-2005, 12:52 PM

MasterMason

02-23-2005, 02:23 PM

Thanks Andre and Jim for putting this together. As a followup to my PM to you Andre, I'm still in.

Since inconsistent speed will will no longer be a factor, my 15 year old will have to find something else to complain about (maybe the water will be too wet! :rant: ). I hope everyone who showed interest continues to be interested in order to make this happen.

Ron

ok I now feel a little better, my younger son is not the only one. He wanted new board bindings, and then complains because they are not broken in.....

And as stated to Andre in PM I am also in and greatly appriciate his time and effort, as well as Jim @ BAWS for putting this together. :toast: I can't understand why anyone is whining, this was open to all, anyone that wanted to know the price just had to say they were interested and provide a small amount of infomation. Jim asked that it not be posted, and I don't see any issues with that, if you wanted to know you should have or perhaps still may be able to contact Andre to find out.

André

02-23-2005, 07:00 PM

Thanks for all the kind words Gentlemens!
Not an easy task for someone who type as fast as a snail,is on dial-up and speak French.
Somebody keep mixing up the letters on the keyboard too!

André

02-23-2005, 07:07 PM

Still waiting for 7 answers by the way so we can close this deal and start the install!
Also ,maybe i forgot to tell everyone in their PM message because i did 17 individuals PM but the quotes were for 15 units sold.Sorry if i forgot to write it down for some of you.
Thanks

VTJC

02-24-2005, 09:13 AM

Andre did you get my PM’s about a timer and possibly a chip? Did you get pricing for those from Jim? Thanks, Jamie

André

02-24-2005, 03:11 PM

Guys just got off the phone with Jim@BAWS
This Perfect Pass group buy is STILL open to anybody interrested and will close on Sunday March 6 th.(Believe me,this is the final date...)
So far out of 16 peoples,i got 12 answers.
9 are in and from all the comments i got,this deal is GOOD!
The next step will be to call Jim on Monday 7th to make sure your order is really what you want AND to give Jim your Credit Card # for your payments.
Just receive another quotes wich is 100 $ more then Jim on the Digital Pro!!!
For the ones with more recent boats,01 and up,there is a possible Mastercraft gauge that you can get instead of the Perfect Pass one.Let me know.
So ,if anybody is looking for a good deal on Perfect Pass,now is the time to do it!
Thanks!

VTJC
Talked to Jim about your Magnet sensor and chip upgrade.He clearly remember you and your boat and said to call direct and he will work out something for you!

Would like to hear from Mattercraft, 94 ps 190,86 powerslot mc, kpickett.
Thanks!

MasterMason

02-27-2005, 10:31 PM

Andre,

Whats the status? How many are in so far?

VTJC

02-27-2005, 11:35 PM

Andre,

Thanks for you effort, I will contact Jim directly. Jamie

André

02-28-2005, 07:00 AM

So far we are 9 peoples in,but all of them are SERIOUS buyers so this thing IS gonna happen even if we don't get to 15.
This buy is closing on Sunday so not much more to wait.I thank you all for your patience.
André

bret

02-28-2005, 09:17 AM

All I did was ask for a PRICE and why can't it be made public. I DIDN'T BLAST ANYONE, didn't comment on anyone it particular; the question was GENERAL. If you will go back and read ALL I DID IS ASK WHY IT CAN'T BE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. I also said I WAS INTERESTED if the price was right.

So next time read the DAMN reply before getting on my ***. I've done several group buys, headed up some; you don't work your butt off, you make a few calls, sort through a few emails and forward them along. I didn't offend anyone. If you took offense, then it's your own fault for reading something BETWEEN the lines that wasn't there...so go back and read again.

Again, the main question WAS what is the price and why can't it be PUBLIC knowledge and it's not WHINNING.

I'll reiterate it again so everyone who wanted to ***** can read it again: I didn't blame, point, BLAST anyone. IF you took offense then you read something in there that was not there.

I'll apoligize IF it offended anyone now that I have the above off my chest, but my comments were purely inquisitive. I'm pissed off because the ground hog saw his shadow too but let's not take it out on one person. :)

Jim@BAWS

02-28-2005, 09:43 AM

I might be interested if the price is right but if this is trying to protect a vendor who wants to keep hush hush, I'll "pass"

Your comments not mine... Looks like you where taking a PASS

"NO SOUP FOR YOU"...next in line

Jim@BAWS

Lake_Tippy_Skier

02-28-2005, 10:03 AM

bret

02-28-2005, 10:05 AM

I've got plenty of soup but I will PASS on your brand. I'll send some cheese and crackers to go with your WhINE.

All vendors can adjust prices and work on their margin and I thought my wife might like it. I simply don't like hush hush deals that can't be out in public.

Jim@BAWS

02-28-2005, 11:33 AM

Make sure the cheese is from Wisconsin. I prefer Extra Sharp from Gibbsville Cheese Factory. Make sure you send alot. I want to send some out as THANKYOUS.

Sorry

Jim@BAWS

QUOTE "I didn't offend anyone" BRET SAYS

QUOTE "I'll apoligize IF it offended anyone now that I have the above off my chest" BRET SAYS

TO OFFEND OR NOT TO OFFEND...THAT IS THE QUESTION !

Enough said

bret

02-28-2005, 12:02 PM

Whine - whining, that's the plural version in case you need help.

Put the price on the board, today for EVERYONE to see. My last look, this is getting ridiculous. Have a great day. Accept my apology.

mitch

02-28-2005, 12:05 PM

I can feel the love here. Can you feel it?

east tx skier

02-28-2005, 12:08 PM

I've decided to retract this post. You guys have at it. Viva la vino y queso.

martini

02-28-2005, 12:41 PM

I should have paid more attention. I am out of this group buy. Sorry for not letting everyone know sooner. Not that you all were holding your breath!

André

03-01-2005, 08:10 PM

Guys
I'll be away for a couples of day cause of work and may not be able to respond to PM until Friday but will try to find a place to log on while out of town.
Again ,the buy is open and the deal is GOOD.
Everything closing on Sunday night and after speaking with Jim@BAWS,i can assure to everyone that is in ,that this thing is still on,even if we don't go up to 15 units.
Thanks!

André

03-01-2005, 08:25 PM

Looking through my notes,i'm still missing answers from 2 of the originals list!
94 ps 190
Mattercraft
Please PM me ASAP
Thanks.

André

03-06-2005, 10:04 AM

Bump!!!
Last day for entering!
Made ordering and payments arrangements with Jim@BAWS.
Will PM everyone tonight...
Thanks!

MasterMason

03-06-2005, 10:07 AM

how many did you get signed up andre?

André

03-06-2005, 10:15 AM

We're still 9 solid buyers.
I knew that not everyone interrested would buy and both me and Jim@BAWS are very happy with 9 peoples.
Don't have time to PM now,my dad got in hospital and going to visit.
Will send infos tonight !
Thanks!

MasterMason

03-06-2005, 10:19 AM

Sorry to hear that, I hope is is doing ok

André

03-06-2005, 06:51 PM

OK guys,here's how to order your Perfect Pass system from Jim@BAWS.
I will e mail the final list of buyers to Jim tonight BUT since there is obviously Credit Card numbers involve,i don't want nothing to do with it, so EACH one of us is going to call Jim@BAWS to confirm your order,model,boat,gauge for the newer boats,shipping address and paymentd infos for Jim to order your system.
Jim@BAWS phone # 813 996 2297.
Please do so ASAP so that we can close this deal and receive our new Perfect Pass quickly.
Thanks to everyone and who work on this specially Jim who came up with a good deal!
Will still send you a PM so that you will see this post.
Thanks again! :steering: :steering: :steering:

André

03-06-2005, 06:53 PM

OOoups,Thanks Master mason,he is getting better but major tests tomorrow.

RackAtak

03-07-2005, 09:32 AM

Called Jim today and gave him my info :woohoo: ...let's go! Get him your info so we can get these units in hand! Once again, Thanks Andre for heading this up and thanks Jim for making it happen. :worthy:

MasterMason

03-07-2005, 09:49 AM

I'm in, Big thanks to Andre and Jim Looking foward to getting it on the boat.

Andyg

03-07-2005, 12:09 PM

Thanks Andre and Jim for the work and the great deal. Just placed my order and I can't wait to get it installed.

Andyg

T-Rager

03-07-2005, 01:14 PM

I also called Jim and placed my order.

André

03-07-2005, 01:45 PM

I'm in too!
Just order from Jim@BAWS too.That's already 5 of us and he had a message in his voice mail.
Thanks to all for their quick orders.
Can't wait to install,got to hurry,only 24 " of ice left!

h20_skidog

03-07-2005, 02:43 PM

I'm in! :woohoo:
Jim has to hear from two others...almost there!
Thanks, Andre and Jim!@!!!! :headbang:

André

03-07-2005, 02:47 PM

Great Nick!
Were you the one who left a message in his mailbox?

h20_skidog

03-07-2005, 03:05 PM

Great Nick!
Were you the one who left a message in his mailbox?
No, I talked directly with him.

Lake_Tippy_Skier

03-07-2005, 03:57 PM

only one more to go!!!! thanks again jim and andre!!!

André

03-07-2005, 04:04 PM

Thanks to you Kevin!
Jim will probably go ahead with the order now...

kskib046

03-07-2005, 05:07 PM

Done Deal – Thanks André and Jim for all of your efforts in this manner!

André

03-07-2005, 05:36 PM

Just got off the phone with Jim@Baws.
Mastercraft Owners and members of TeamTalk are mens of Honnors!!!
All 9 orders are already fax to Perfect Pass and should be on their way to you tomorrow morning!
Congrats to the new "Fathers"
T-rager
Tall Andy
MasterMason
Lake Tippy Skier
Andy G
H2oskidog
Rackattack
Kskib046 who is a regular lurker of this board that has never post and i expect you to start writing your Thanks to me and Jim in your first public post!!! :wavey:
Me

Many many thanks to Jim again who work out what i think is a very good deal for everyone!
I remember Jim and me (and a couples of others) having a rough start when he came to the old board but after dealing and talking with him,i can honnestly say that he is the kind of MASTERCRAFT DEALER we all wish we had close to us.
He often help out Mastercraft owners from other dealers and will go out of his way to make you happy.Got to appreciate that! :headbang:
It seems that this year "Taxes" has bring littles surprises to some guys otherwise,we could have been a couples of guys more...
Gentlemens
It's been a pleasure and experience dealing with all of you!
Wish you all a VERY nice summer skiing or boarding (By the way ,the final count was 5 Digital Pro,3 wake Pro and one cruise) behind your Mastercraft with Perfect Pass from

Jim@BAWS

Thanks Again!
André :toast:

André

03-07-2005, 05:42 PM

Well well,imagine that! By the time i post this long post with me typing at light speed,Kyle comes out of the darkness!!!
Welcome Officially to Kyle!
C'mon guys ,everybody toghether;
"Welcome Kyle!"

Jim@BAWS

03-08-2005, 04:31 PM

Thanks to all 9 participants in the PP Group buy. Everyone paid yesterday via CC with no problems. The order was faxed tp PP at 5 pm EST time after they close (4PM) est. After going over each order this AM shipment was to go out today 3/8/05. PP called back after 3 PM needing everyones tele # for UPS shipping. They are on there way by 3/9/05. Just wanted everyone to know.

Thanks so much for ALL your business

Jim @ BAY AREA WATERSPORTS

By the way the have matched all systems shipped to your specfic boat and year so guages WILL match when available

André

03-08-2005, 04:47 PM

Great work again Jim.

thanks
Can't wait to make a hole in my boat!

east tx skier

03-08-2005, 04:57 PM

Way to go, Andre, Jim, and all of you soon to be very happy and somewhat confused PP owners.

Just remember, ^ = Yes

André

03-08-2005, 04:59 PM

As you noticed ,the confused part already begun...
began... your pick!
begin...

André

03-09-2005, 04:04 PM

Guys
I got all the Fedex tracking # of your invoice.PM me if you want them.
Already on their way!

DanC

03-09-2005, 04:58 PM

Just curious when you guys get your stuff. When I purchased my PerfectPass last year they included three stickers (which was three more than I got from MC when I bought a new boat :( )

east tx skier

03-09-2005, 05:02 PM

I think I got two stickers from Perfect Pass. As for MC, you don't get stickers when you buy used. But with the money I saved, I can buy lots of stickers.

BrianM

03-09-2005, 05:46 PM

When I got my PP a couple of months ago they sent me 4 stickers. They have a new design that has a blue background with a skier in them. I didn't like the new ones and called and asked if they still had the old style stickers that are just the logo letters individualy. Those look much better on the boat window. They still had some left and sent me 3 of those as well. No charge.

east tx skier

03-09-2005, 06:04 PM

I really dig the logo letters. They're all separate and look really cool IMO.

Ric

03-10-2005, 10:28 AM

André

03-10-2005, 05:10 PM

The Fedex guy just came buy with my new Digital Pro! :friday:
Took 25 hrs to get my system to my door!
The gauge has the Mastercraft logo,Smart timer,manual timer,The whole enchillada like Doug say!
Can't wait for the install!
Looks very simple and well explain.
Thanks Jim!
The stickers are the new ones.

RackAtak

03-10-2005, 05:18 PM

O.K. Andre...I'm going to need my tracking number now.

MasterMason

03-10-2005, 05:20 PM

Rack,

Mine was scheduled for delivery on March 11, yours should be the same with the distance.

RackAtak

03-10-2005, 05:25 PM

Thanks for the heads up.

Lake_Tippy_Skier

03-11-2005, 10:38 AM

just delivered!!!!!!!

time put the honey-to-do list on the back burner :D

Mar 11, 2005 10:29 AM

Delivered

SYRACUSE, IN

Left at front door. No signature required - release waiver on file

8:10 AM

On FedEx vehicle for delivery

SOUTH BEND, IN

8:01 AM

At dest sort facility

SOUTH BEND, IN

7:47 AM

At local FedEx facility

SOUTH BEND, IN

6:50 AM

At dest sort facility

SOUTH BEND, IN

4:24 AM

Departed FedEx location

MEMPHIS, TN

Mar 10, 2005 11:36 PM

Int'l shipment release

MEMPHIS, TN

11:33 PM

Int'l shipment release

MEMPHIS, TN

Mar 9, 2005 5:30 PM

Left origin

DARTMOUTH, NS

4:31 PM

Picked up

DARTMOUTH, NS

2:58 PM

Package data transmitted to FedEx

André

03-11-2005, 11:42 AM

The tracking system from Fedex is sure nice!
Congrats Kevin!

MasterMason

03-11-2005, 01:02 PM

LOL... waitiing patiently, but it will be here today.

Mar 11, 2005 8:45 AM

On FedEx vehicle for delivery

SAN JOSE, CA

8:29 AM

At local FedEx facility

SAN JOSE, CA

6:56 AM

At dest sort facility

SAN JOSE, CA

4:37 AM

Departed FedEx location

MEMPHIS, TN

Mar 10, 2005 11:33 PM

Int'l shipment release

MEMPHIS, TN

11:31 PM

Int'l shipment release

MEMPHIS, TN

Mar 9, 2005 5:30 PM

Left origin

DARTMOUTH, NS

2:05 PM

Picked up

DARTMOUTH, NS

11:05 AM

Package data transmitted to FedEx

RackAtak

03-11-2005, 02:18 PM

Santa Clau...uhhh I mean the Fed Ex guy just left me a package that says PerfectPass Control System all over it...any ideas?

André

03-11-2005, 02:46 PM

Nothing interresting.
Just return to sender!!!

h20_skidog

03-11-2005, 03:41 PM

:banana: Yeah baby!!!!!!!! Got mine!!!!

Thanks André for organizing! And also to Jim for enabling this group buy to happen!!!

I'm so-ooo-ooo-ooo excited for my wife ;) to be using the PP when pulling me!!!!:woohoo:

MasterMason

03-11-2005, 03:52 PM

pouting... my fedex guy is slow kind of like watching the tea kettle boil I guess, if you keep checking it will never boil

Double D

03-11-2005, 04:22 PM

I was interested. What did you end up paying?
What model did you end up getting?

Oops. Looks like Im too late.. :uglyhamme

east tx skier

03-11-2005, 04:44 PM

There's a new post from TMC (moderator) concerning group buys that everyone needs to read.

MarkP

03-11-2005, 04:57 PM

Hey, I got the link http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=1986&page=1&pp=10

T-Rager

03-11-2005, 06:12 PM

Mine arrived today also. Now I need to figure out where I put my boat before Christmas!

André

03-11-2005, 06:24 PM

Double D
Don't wait for the next group buy...
On a sidenote ,you're user name reminds me of this girl...

Thomas.
Look under the bed!

Leroy

03-11-2005, 06:25 PM

That's not normally a problem with the boat, good luck T-Rager! WHere I parked at the mall 2 hours ago, problem!

Mine arrived today also. Now I need to figure out where I put my boat before Christmas!

André

03-18-2005, 08:05 AM

Did anyone started their install yet ?

MasterMason

03-18-2005, 09:33 AM

Did anyone started their install yet ?

I will be doing mine the next weekend. I have an appointment to get the hole drilled on the 4th.

T-Rager

03-20-2005, 03:56 AM

I'm preparing to install the Perfect Pass Thru-Hull Speed Sensor and I note that the installation instructions state that some hulls have a core (i.e., a layer of wood or foam) laminated between the inner and outer skins. Does anyone know if the 1990 ProStar 190 hull has this cored design? Or is it a solid piece of fiberglass?

Thanks in advance of your feedback.

BrianM

03-20-2005, 10:22 AM

I am 99% sure the answer is no. YOu should have just a solid 1" or so layer of glass

T-Rager

03-21-2005, 10:34 AM

Thanks, BrianM. I will find out for sure when I drill the pilot hole.

Mattercraft

03-21-2005, 01:34 PM

Installed mine last weekend. Piece of cake. Tested it on the lake and it works perfectly. Can't wait to do some boarding with it.

RackAtak

03-30-2005, 04:01 PM

Installation complete! As Mattercraft said, piece of cake. Took me about 3 hours total and I NEVER work on mechanical stuff. Spent most of the time fishing the control wires under the floorboard, scratching my head and going to the hardware store to get a hole saw. Hope to put it in Lake Don Pedro Saturday and test it. Let me tell you, once you drill a 2" hole in the bottom of your boat you can do anything!!!

André

03-30-2005, 04:04 PM

Glad to know it went well!
Good luck on the test ride!

MasterMason

03-30-2005, 07:37 PM

Mine gets installed this weekend, and on monday the Local MC dealer will drill a hole in my boat for a modest fee. I'll feel a lot better that way.

rodltg2

03-30-2005, 07:41 PM

i hope its not cope and mcphetres in santa clara!

RackAtak

03-31-2005, 01:33 AM

I know how you feel about having a dealer drill a hole in your hull, but it was and is really, really easy. First I measured and re-measured and then measured again to make sure I was going to put the hole in the right spot. After determining the spot to drill, I laid out a square pattern of masking tape. Then I laid tape diagonally over the first layer then I laid out tape vertically over the first 2 layers. After that, I measured again and marked the spot with a Sharpie. I then slowly drilled a small pilot hole through the hull from the bottom. After that, I ran the hole saw in reverse using the pilot hole as a guide until I scored through the masking tape enlarging the pilot hole and scoring the gel coat at the same time. I then repeated the hole saw routine from the top. After that I went back underneath, held my breath, and cut the hole. Came out very smooth and clean. The initial fear was the worst part...just in case you need a confidence boost and want to try (do) it.

MasterMason

04-11-2005, 07:14 PM

Well, the PP is in and ready to try out. Hopefully this weekend, but if not, then next weekend for sure. :woohoo:

André

04-11-2005, 07:20 PM

Did you cut the hole yourself ?

RackAtak

04-11-2005, 09:10 PM

Good luck with the test! I performed a lake test last weekend at Don Pedro. It worked great. The only thing I had to do was calibrate the speed with the GPS. After calibration, the Perfect Pass speed reading matched the GPS reading within 2 tenths of a mph at all speeds. The tach was right on with the stock tach. The water temp feature was cool too (no pun intended)...58.7 degrees :eek:

h20_skidog

04-11-2005, 10:20 PM

I cut the hole and installed it myself! Drilling the hole was a bit scary :eek: But thanks to the information posted here and other websites it went well! Although I had to remind myself to breath :rolleyes: Covering with masking tape as shown in the photo, drilling a pilot hole and dilling in reverse on both sides did the trick.

As shown in the second photo I also used the Dremel tool to cut out an area on the decorative engine cover. I know that I could have done with out it...but I was used to seeing it and its all in what we are used to.

I tested my PP system this past Sat. and NO leaks!!! Although I don't have a GPS to sync the speed...it works!

Update: NSXBill noticed in the previous photo that it was displaying the rear of the boat where I had drilled for the PP system. That was the wrong photo. The attached photos are correct. The other photo is for the new hole for the water source of the new ballast pump I put in. Too many projects...not enough time!

MasterMason

04-11-2005, 11:01 PM

Did you cut the hole yourself ?

nope I am not as brave as others here, After all I have read, I am sure I could have done it, but the piece of mind was worth a few bucks to me. and while it was in they fixed a wireing problem I had with the heater from the original owners install.

MasterMason

04-11-2005, 11:04 PM

DanC

04-11-2005, 11:34 PM

What course is unused on the weekends on the delta?

MasterMason

04-12-2005, 06:43 AM

What course is unused on the weekends on the delta?

If you go down twin sloughs from Discovery bay and go towards union point, just off the main route there is a course, there is a grand stand and everything. My delta map is in the boat so I don't have exact names of the channels. I don't think I have ever seen anyone actually using it during the weekend. I am sure that they have the occasional event there, since they have a grand stand and everything, but like I said, I have ever seen anyone even running the course.

flyinryn

04-13-2005, 01:30 AM

it is the golden gate waterski club.

its the course that when someone does appear and you are not expecting it does scare the crap out of you.

you going out this weekend "Mastermanson".

MasterMason

04-13-2005, 01:39 AM

I am still debating it. I would like to, but not exactly sure what else needs to get done. I think the water is warm enough for me to venture in at this point, :)

DanC

04-13-2005, 02:04 AM

Funny. My buddy used to belong to the Golden Gate Water Ski Club. I used to ski a lot there back in the late 80s and 90s. Weekends were always busy but I haven't been there in over 7 years.
Yep, the course exits are scary :eek:

flyinryn

04-13-2005, 12:24 PM

DAN C
Any idea what the dues out there are. i know you said it was your friend just curious. I think one reason i would like to join is so i could sleep on the island for the weekend.
not so much the the course.

just think victoria slough 6:00 am. no one else.

That would be heaven.