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garyh
05-08-2007, 05:33 PM
I have a 2002 X-30; I noticed late last season that my wheels were hot when I would get to the lake. The pads and rotors on the outside seemed fine so I changed the oil in the oil bath hubs.
This year I've noticed that the inside part of the rotor and pad were metal to metal and wore very deep grooves into the rotor. I know that i need new pads and rotors, however I'm concerned that there may be more damage that I'm not aware. How could this have happened, is it normal or frequent, how do I make sure it doesnt happen again.

I know that MC uses different trailer parts each year so here are a few questions that I'm unsure about:

Is this a big job; what would you guys suggest?
Where do I get parts? Any Idea of a price?
Do I need new calipers also? The calipers now engage and disengage.
Do you think a dealer should work on such problems or any marine mechanic?

uawaterskier
05-08-2007, 05:41 PM
when you say its hot, how hot is it? If it is cannot touch hot, then you have a serious trailer brake issue

garyh
05-08-2007, 05:46 PM
Last season, they were hot enough that you could not leave your hand on over 10-20 seconds; so yes they were pretty hot.
This year is not the case; they havent been getting hot at all.

TMCNo1
05-08-2007, 08:40 PM
I have a 2002 X-30; I noticed late last season that my wheels were hot when I would get to the lake. The pads and rotors on the outside seemed fine so I changed the oil in the oil bath hubs.
This year I've noticed that the inside part of the rotor and pad were metal to metal and wore very deep grooves into the rotor. I know that i need new pads and rotors, however I'm concerned that there may be more damage that I'm not aware. How could this have happened, is it normal or frequent, how do I make sure it doesnt happen again.

I know that MC uses different trailer parts each year so here are a few questions that I'm unsure about:

Is this a big job; what would you guys suggest?
Where do I get parts? Any Idea of a price?
Do I need new calipers also? The calipers now engage and disengage.
Do you think a dealer should work on such problems or any marine mechanic?


It appears that the pistons in the calipers have stuck and worn the disc brake pads out and the plates into the rotors. There was a problem in the early 2000 years with this sticking and it has been addressed on here extensively. Maybe someone else will give a more definative explanation as to what the problem was and how or if a dealer can deal with it for you at this point in time. I just can't find the threads. Try a advanced search using words related to your problem, till someone finds it and posts it or advises you.

JohnnyB
05-08-2007, 09:14 PM
I'm not sure about your model year. But I do know the 03 and 04 caliper pistons tended to corrode/freeze up. The recommended replacement for the OEM brake is a Kodiak caliper that can be purchased from your dealer at a very reasonable price....it was as good a price as through Waymire and the dealer knew which caliper I needed right away. Waymire probably could've figured it out but they weren't exactly sure.

Talk to your dealer.....I go to Bay Area Watersports in Tampa, FL for all my parts.....note, I live in Wisconsin....

WTRSK1R
05-08-2007, 09:22 PM
Take a look at this post:
http://mymastercraft.com/Forum/view_thread.cfm?postid=266&forum=266&category=2

About half way down there is a number for Reliabletool who makes the axel. Give them a call and describe the issue. They may not give you any warranty on a 2002, but they should be able to help you determine what you need to fix the issue.

Steve

uawaterskier
05-08-2007, 10:49 PM
Last season, they were hot enough that you could not leave your hand on over 10-20 seconds; so yes they were pretty hot.
This year is not the case; they havent been getting hot at all.thats way hotter than they should be. Like the other guys said it sounds like a stuck piston

Workin' 4 Toys
05-09-2007, 08:38 AM
Here's a couple......

Brakes 1 (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=13945)


brakes 2 (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12671)


brakes 3 (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12788)


brakes 4 (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=9608)


brakes 5 (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=9252)

rlgonza
08-15-2007, 07:58 PM
Dear Workin 4 toys, I have a 2004 Mastercraft X-30 with the brakes locking up. Although it is a 2004, I have not put many miles on my trailer. The first lock up was this weekend when I noticed my truck hopping when I take off from a dead stop. I jacked up one side of the trailer so far and the wheels on both axles are just about locked up with almost no movement and they remain in this condition even after disconnecting the trailer from my truck and hammering the tounge of the trailer to try to release the brakes. I followed your string from its beginning but never read your final solution. Can you help me with this matter. Thanks.

P-hat_in_Cincy
08-18-2007, 09:45 PM
Get in touch with your dealer and/or Reliable. When I had my issue, the sent new calipers and pads. It went from Reliable calipers to Kodiak. No issues since.

Workin' 4 Toys
08-19-2007, 12:32 AM
Dear Workin 4 toys, I have a 2004 Mastercraft X-30 with the brakes locking up. Although it is a 2004, I have not put many miles on my trailer. The first lock up was this weekend when I noticed my truck hopping when I take off from a dead stop. I jacked up one side of the trailer so far and the wheels on both axles are just about locked up with almost no movement and they remain in this condition even after disconnecting the trailer from my truck and hammering the tounge of the trailer to try to release the brakes. I followed your string from its beginning but never read your final solution. Can you help me with this matter. Thanks.
Without a doubt, check with your dealer near you, give them the details and see where it gets you.
If you have no success with your dealer, let us know. Plenty of solutions here, just do yourself and check with them first and see what they can do for you.
If you haven't read some of the trailer brake threads, here you go.
ONE (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=3742)
TWO (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=16684)
THREE (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=16165)
FOUR (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=13945)
FIVE (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12671)
SIX (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12788)
SEVEN (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=17824)

Eric x-9
08-24-2007, 02:44 PM
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: ... mine has the same problem... The price I was quoted to replace the pads and calipers was 495.60 plus shipping. Does that sound right? the original parts were crap and not its 500$ to fix their error.

WTRSK1R
08-24-2007, 02:56 PM
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: ... mine has the same problem... The price I was quoted to replace the pads and calipers was 495.60 plus shipping. Does that sound right? the original parts were crap and not its 500$ to fix their error.


See my previous post about Reliable Tool. I think it was about the 5th one in this thread. I just had the same issue on a 2004, called reliable, and they are sending me 2 calipers and new brake pads for free. They indicated that there were some parts on the newer calipers, (piston and caliper guide pins) that were not stainless on the earlier calipers that are now stainless due to corrosion issues . I will need to do the replacement myself, but for me, that is no big issue. I am traveling right now, but hopefully when I get home I will have parts and a project waiting for me.

Steve

Eric x-9
08-24-2007, 03:41 PM
See my previous post about Reliable Tool. I think it was about the 5th one in this thread. I just had the same issue on a 2004, called reliable, and they are sending me 2 calipers and new brake pads for free. They indicated that there were some parts on the newer calipers, (piston and caliper guide pins) that were not stainless on the earlier calipers that are now stainless due to corrosion issues . I will need to do the replacement myself, but for me, that is no big issue. I am traveling right now, but hopefully when I get home I will have parts and a project waiting for me.

Steve

Who did you talk to there? I spoke with them and they basically told me I was out of luck :(

Workin' 4 Toys
08-25-2007, 12:13 AM
Who did you talk to there? I spoke with them and they basically told me I was out of luck :(
Have you contacted your dealer? They should know all about the problem and get you the solution.

If didn't have any luck, you might try PM'ing some of the dealer reps here at TMC and see if they can help.

WTRSK1R
08-25-2007, 08:06 AM
Who did you talk to there? I spoke with them and they basically told me I was out of luck :(
Unfortuantely, I am traveling and my notes with the contact and the phone number are at home. I called the number that was in the MYMC posting and the person who answered transferred me to someone else. I had to leave a message on his voicemail, but he called back in less then an hour and was very friendly and easy to deal with. Sorry I can not be more help.

Steve