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vegashomeexpert
05-01-2007, 11:33 AM
Made it to the lake Saturday afternoon for the first time this spring. Woohoo! Went to Calville and was greeted by a 1.5 hour wait to drop in. Turns out it is down to 2 lanes. Met my other party at the beach, did our thing (yep, very sore) and told them we should wait 'til dark do leave in the hopes of avoiding the line. Turns out a lot of people had the same idea. Got back to the marina at 8:00pm and there was a very long line. We got in it anyway and were finally out of the water at midnight! There were two breakdowns that each took about an hour to clear, so we were working with one lane. And in the dark, the people in line would get there trailer backed up in the water, and then they would have to go hunting for the boat amongst the throngs. Not pleasant. They say Calville will be two lanes for at least another month as they try to extend the ramp to keep up with the receding water. Moral of the story: Stay away from Calville on weekends.....

sanjuan23
05-01-2007, 11:36 AM
Wow that would just about test all the patience that I already do not have.

Sodar
05-01-2007, 11:39 AM
Sounds like them yanking Overton has put a little strain on the rest of the Marinas...

WakeSeeky
05-01-2007, 11:44 AM
Oh boy, we saw that backup on Sunday and said no thanks, sorry to hear you got caught. Last time they had it down to two lanes we put in anyway, won't make that mistake again. We put in at Hemenway on Saturday and it was actually pretty nice. It's shallow, of course, but it wasn't too busy. Looks like we may be spending some time at Echo for awhile, though. :rolleyes:

Ric
05-01-2007, 11:56 AM
oh no no no, :noface: I'd sell the boat if I had to endure that schnitz!

sanjuan23
05-01-2007, 11:58 AM
oh no no no, :noface: I'd sell the boat if I had to endure that schnitz!


Drastic, yes... But my thoughts exactly. Ouch

Diesel
05-01-2007, 12:25 PM
oh no no no, :noface: I'd sell the boat if I had to endure that schnitz!

Yeah it would be just terrible if you were forced by circumstances outside of your control to stay at the lake another 4hrs. :D

As long as the cooler was full I would have turned around and enjoyed the stars from the middle of the lake.:)

TX.X-30 fan
05-01-2007, 12:26 PM
Yeah it would be just terrible if you were forced by circumstances outside of your control to stay at the lake another 4hrs. :D

As long as the cooler was full I would have turned around and enjoyed the stars from the middle of the lake.:)



Now that's the MC attitude. ;)

JKTX21
05-01-2007, 12:51 PM
I get irked when I have to wait 5 minutes to load the boat. I probably would have driven up to the lodge, parked the boat and went searching for some Coors. :)

Maristar210
05-01-2007, 12:55 PM
Wow Vegas. I don't think I have EVER waited at a ramp, oh that's right I'm on private water, what was I thinking8p 8p 8p

I'm kidding. There is a serious need to be on the water to wait that long though not to mention cutting into beer thirty time

Upper Michigan Prostar190
05-01-2007, 01:17 PM
I get PO'd if there is ONE boat launching ahead of me. You have to understand, I am in a very rural setting, its da UP! so traffic jams are non existant, as are waiting lines at boat ramps. I really get PO'd if a Wally is there or some drunken fisherman or someone holding up the launch ramp trying to get their boat running. thats rude IMO. if you have engine troubles, then use a paddle to another dock and work on it! drunken fisherman that dont know how to load a boat are the worst though.

djhuff
05-01-2007, 01:24 PM
If everyone had a boat driver and a trailer driver, then the time it takes to clear the ramp would be almost nil, even if the trailer driver has to take a few attempts.

If you are alone, then fine, but I cannot stand the people who won't let their wife/friends do anything. To see a boat tied up at the dock (in the way) while ONE person backs the trailer, loads the boat, drives the trailer out drives me absolutely nuts. I actually cannot be at the ramp waiting when this is going on. I will leave and come back at 3 am if I have too.

Jwhitsett1129
05-01-2007, 01:28 PM
No other ramps in the area I am guessing? I would have just dropped someone off at the dock to grab the car and meet me at another ramp...even if it was all the way across the lake. I have never seen more than a 5 or so minute wait around here...and even then I am getting a little irritated!

Maristar210
05-01-2007, 01:29 PM
If everyone had a boat driver and a trailer driver, then the time it takes to clear the ramp would be almost nil, even if the trailer driver has to take a few attempts.

If you are alone, then fine, but I cannot stand the people who won't let their wife/friends do anything. To see a boat tied up at the dock (in the way) while ONE person backs the trailer, loads the boat, drives the trailer out drives me absolutely nuts. I actually cannot be at the ramp waiting when this is going on. I will leave and come back at 3 am if I have too.


I hear ya. My driver who is also pretty good in.... oh that's another matter. Anyway While I'm backing the trailer in the water she is driving forward and we kind of meet if you will, in the middle. One click one latch and I'm gone. My neighbors stand there, shake thier heads and ask us both how we do that so fast. I tell em it takes practice. Then I tell them about....;)

JKTX21
05-01-2007, 01:40 PM
If you are alone, then fine, but I cannot stand the people who won't let their wife/friends do anything.


Amen. If one of my friends comes out to the river more than once, you can bet I have them in the drivers seat of the truck learning how to back a trailer into the water, if they have not before. Yes, it is painful to watch for a couple of times, but there is no other way for people to learn.

WakeSeeky
05-01-2007, 05:59 PM
No other ramps in the area I am guessing? I would have just dropped someone off at the dock to grab the car and meet me at another ramp...even if it was all the way across the lake. I have never seen more than a 5 or so minute wait around here...and even then I am getting a little irritated!

All the way across the lake here is over 100 miles. :D

MasterCrafting
05-01-2007, 06:32 PM
my little brother and I have drop off down to 1 minute 30 seconds...and pickup down to 29 seconds...2 hours is a very long time

roddydog
05-01-2007, 06:32 PM
Gotta say we have a "similar" prob. on the way up to our place there are two bridges, the second one is now under construction, so...........................ONE LANE both ways for the rest of the summer!!

The 'scenic' route is even longer so.....................suck it up!!

vegashomeexpert
05-02-2007, 11:41 AM
If everyone had a boat driver and a trailer driver, then the time it takes to clear the ramp would be almost nil, even if the trailer driver has to take a few attempts.

If you are alone, then fine, but I cannot stand the people who won't let their wife/friends do anything. To see a boat tied up at the dock (in the way) while ONE person backs the trailer, loads the boat, drives the trailer out drives me absolutely nuts. I actually cannot be at the ramp waiting when this is going on. I will leave and come back at 3 am if I have too.
Pretty much everyone had a boat driver and a trailer driver. The problem was the marina turned into a big party, so the boat drivers were a little distracted when their trailer hit the water. All in all, everyone had a great time except the poor SOB's waiting in their tow vehicles. Wakeseeky, we will probably hit Cottonwood Cove regularly over the summer. Mojave is full, you park just feet from the ramp, and the time it takes to get there is about the same as Echo. You may want to check it out...

WakeSeeky
05-02-2007, 12:28 PM
Pretty much everyone had a boat driver and a trailer driver. The problem was the marina turned into a big party, so the boat drivers were a little distracted when their trailer hit the water. All in all, everyone had a great time except the poor SOB's waiting in their tow vehicles. Wakeseeky, we will probably hit Cottonwood Cove regularly over the summer. Mojave is full, you park just feet from the ramp, and the time it takes to get there is about the same as Echo. You may want to check it out...

Yeah, we sat on a friend's houseboat with beverages & watched for awhile Sunday. I can totally see that deteriorating as the day wore on. The party on the docks was pretty much in full swing by 10 or so.

Cottonwood sounds nice, we'll have to check that out. I don't know what Echo is going to be like this summer with Overton gone, we may end up seeing you at Mojave this year.

TMCNo1
05-02-2007, 01:14 PM
I hear ya. My driver who is also pretty good in.... oh that's another matter. Anyway While I'm backing the trailer in the water she is driving forward and we kind of meet if you will, in the middle. One click one latch and I'm gone. My neighbors stand there, shake thier heads and ask us both how we do that so fast. I tell em it takes practice. Then I tell them about....;)

That's the way it is at our ramp, the wannabe's just stand there in awe, as to what Lynn and I have just done, while the another boaters wife stands there with knitting twine trying to hold onto a 3000# boat with 3 snotty nosed kids swimming on the ramp they are blocking or picking up duck poop, throwing it in the water to see if it floats, screaming, "Mommie this green stuff looks like what we had for supper last night"!:rolleyes:

Datdude
05-02-2007, 01:40 PM
I could watch a busy launch for days. My parents lake home is one door away from a fairly busy launch. It provides countless hours of entertainment. Some people should not be operating boats...it is downright scary sometimes:rolleyes:

dmayer84
05-02-2007, 01:43 PM
I could watch a busy launch for days. My parents lake home is one door away from a fairly busy launch. It provides countless hours of entertainment. Some people should not be operating boats...it is downright scary sometimes:rolleyes:

At the ramp this past weeked I was waiting for the guy infront of me to finish up. He forgets to put up the sterndrive and as soon as he pulls up and notices he yells "NOT AGAIN!!!" and then continues to pull the boat all the way out. I was laughing my arse off.

dpolen
05-02-2007, 02:58 PM
My new boat slip on Lake Minnetonka is right next to a public ramp...splashed yesterday, can't wait to kick back and enjoy some good quality entertainment in the coming months.

JEREMY79
05-03-2007, 09:42 AM
Sounds like some of you guys need to move to some diffrent lakes. The longest I have ever waited at our ramp is 10 min-----on 4th of july weekend

blacter
05-03-2007, 01:26 PM
Calville is at Lake Mead?

Vegas X-Star
05-03-2007, 01:36 PM
That sucks. I am in Vegas too and Callville is where I usually launch from. Just so happened, last weekend we went to Lake Mojave camping. If you have ever put in at Willow Beach it is great...no lines, smooth water, etc. It is about 20 minutes more of a drive but I think you make up for it in waiting in line. Not to mention the walk down to the ramp at Callville is ridiculous.

bigpack20
05-03-2007, 01:40 PM
Sorry to hear about the long wait. You should have stayed out all night would have been more fun.

vegashomeexpert
05-04-2007, 12:56 PM
That sucks. I am in Vegas too and Callville is where I usually launch from. Just so happened, last weekend we went to Lake Mojave camping. If you have ever put in at Willow Beach it is great...no lines, smooth water, etc. It is about 20 minutes more of a drive but I think you make up for it in waiting in line. Not to mention the walk down to the ramp at Callville is ridiculous.
Yeah, been to Willow and it is very nice once you get down to the warm water that doesn't take your breath away. Hate risking the line to get across the dam, though.

tex
05-04-2007, 01:55 PM
I thought all the ramps in Vegas had casinos attached to them. That way you have something to do when you are waiting to put in/take out.
Can you color me up...I need to get a couple of sets in!

MinnX-10
05-04-2007, 06:19 PM
My new boat slip on Lake Minnetonka is right next to a public ramp...splashed yesterday, can't wait to kick back and enjoy some good quality entertainment in the coming months.

Are you over on Maxwell? Another great ramp to watch on weekends!!!!

Ryan27r
05-04-2007, 11:27 PM
Launced yseterday and there were a couple mexicans with there truck in one lane and there dead boat taking up the other 2. Get this they were afraid of the water so it took them 10 minutes to just move the truck so we could back in. Then we were out of there in a minute. Some people really piss me off at the ramp...

Monte
05-04-2007, 11:38 PM
I got stuck waiting for a guy to back down, take the battery out of his truck to start his boat make sure it runs. Replace battery out of the boat and into the truck, pull the truck out leaving the boat right there.. right there!!:mad: then battery out of the truck and into the boat a final time. To take off:noface:

Leroy
05-05-2007, 12:45 AM
Anyone going out this time of the year still makes me angry!

Congrats to everyone waiting in launch lines in April/May!

scottkirbysavage
05-05-2007, 01:36 AM
I have never had to wait in line in Texas. I would also sell my boat if I had to do that. I have no paitence.

ProTour X9
05-05-2007, 08:36 AM
I had to wait for two cars parked at the ramp, and 2 kids fishing right at the ramp, by wait i mean wait for them to get out after i explained the rules that were on the sign right behind them!, its a small, narrow, ramp with room for only ONE rig and boat at a time

WakeSeeky
05-06-2007, 12:22 PM
That sucks. I am in Vegas too and Callville is where I usually launch from. Just so happened, last weekend we went to Lake Mojave camping. If you have ever put in at Willow Beach it is great...no lines, smooth water, etc. It is about 20 minutes more of a drive but I think you make up for it in waiting in line. Not to mention the walk down to the ramp at Callville is ridiculous.

Hey there, welcome to the board, how have I missed you on here?? I usually watch for Vegas peeps! :D Boat pics?? Wave if you see us, we'll be the ones with the SkySki.

Keep this thread alive guys, have you noticed that everyone thinks we normally wait in line to launch?? Mead is very, very busy everyone, you'll end up wanting to sell your boat if you try to come here. :cool:

vegashomeexpert
05-08-2007, 12:07 PM
Hey there, welcome to the board, how have I missed you on here?? I usually watch for Vegas peeps! :D Boat pics?? Wave if you see us, we'll be the ones with the SkySki.

Keep this thread alive guys, have you noticed that everyone thinks we normally wait in line to launch?? Mead is very, very busy everyone, you'll end up wanting to sell your boat if you try to come here. :cool:
Unless you want to buy a house, of course! I can help you buy one very close to the lake and would be very happy to let you in on all the little secrets on how to get in and out without waiting in line.:D

Vegas X-Star
05-08-2007, 08:15 PM
WakeSeeky - Thanks for the welcome. I think I have seen your boat a time or two, awesome color and graphics combo. I am working on getting some pictures posted...I have lots of pictures of people in my boat, but have never taken any good pics of the boat.

Vegsahomeexpert - I know I have seen your boat before. I had a 2002red/white X-10 that was a spitting image of yours. Nice!

This weekend is going to be great weather...too bad I will be in San Diego.

vegashomeexpert
05-09-2007, 12:52 PM
We will be out Thursday afternoon (weather permitting)!

dpolen
05-09-2007, 01:24 PM
Are you over on Maxwell? Another great ramp to watch on weekends!!!!
Spring Park Bay...smaller ramp but I'm sure there will be some good stuff to watch in the coming months. Gray's bay public launch has to be the best place, I've seen more crap at that ramp than I've seen on any other lake I've been to.

WakeSeeky
05-09-2007, 04:27 PM
WakeSeeky - Thanks for the welcome. I think I have seen your boat a time or two, awesome color and graphics combo. I am working on getting some pictures posted...I have lots of pictures of people in my boat, but have never taken any good pics of the boat.


Thanks! What color is yours at least? We'll keep an eye out for you.

Supposedly the Callville launch ramp is better now (http://www.nps.gov/lame/launchramp.htm). We're going out this weekend but haven't decided where. I heard a rumor that Lake Mead Marina also has lanes shut down? If we decide to take one for the team and risk Callville, I'll let you know how it goes. :rolleyes:

vegashomeexpert
05-10-2007, 12:37 AM
Thanks! What color is yours at least? We'll keep an eye out for you.

Supposedly the Callville launch ramp is better now (http://www.nps.gov/lame/launchramp.htm). We're going out this weekend but haven't decided where. I heard a rumor that Lake Mead Marina also has lanes shut down? If we decide to take one for the team and risk Callville, I'll let you know how it goes. :rolleyes:
Andrea: We are going to Lake Mead Marina, I mean "Boulder Harbor" (does the park service have some kind of secret code?) tomorrow and will post how it is. Sounds like they took care of some of the issues at Callville but it still does not have many lanes.

WakeSeeky
05-10-2007, 12:28 PM
Andrea: We are going to Lake Mead Marina, I mean "Boulder Harbor" (does the park service have some kind of secret code?) tomorrow and will post how it is. Sounds like they took care of some of the issues at Callville but it still does not have many lanes.

Oh, that's what Boulder Harbor is. :rolleyes: It's probably been a year and a half since we've put in there, not my favorite marina. I didn't even know they'd changed the name. I'm sitting here jealous that you're going out, so enjoy the beautiful weather and take a run for me, huh? :D

vegashomeexpert
05-11-2007, 11:40 AM
Oh, that's what Boulder Harbor is. :rolleyes: It's probably been a year and a half since we've put in there, not my favorite marina. I didn't even know they'd changed the name. I'm sitting here jealous that you're going out, so enjoy the beautiful weather and take a run for me, huh? :D
Ok, I'm sore! Lake Mead marina has about 3.5 lanes open. Not too many pot holes, kind of shallow, and the farther you get from the courtesy dock (west) the shallower and muddier it gets. Went to the wall and there were always 5-6 boats and at least 2 jet skiiers over there. Haven't seen that many people busting up the water on a weekday ever. The wind was gusty, sometimes none (usually between riders) and then strong gusts that would churn things up. Next test is Echo and then Cottonwood cove.

WakeSeeky
05-11-2007, 01:04 PM
Ok, I'm sore! Lake Mead marina has about 3.5 lanes open. Not too many pot holes, kind of shallow, and the farther you get from the courtesy dock (west) the shallower and muddier it gets. Went to the wall and there were always 5-6 boats and at least 2 jet skiiers over there. Haven't seen that many people busting up the water on a weekday ever. The wind was gusty, sometimes none (usually between riders) and then strong gusts that would churn things up. Next test is Echo and then Cottonwood cove.

Wow, busy then. Well, the wind did finally slow down some yesterday. Sounds like everybody was itching to get out. Thanks for the update and glad you got a chance to get sore!

I think we'll hit Echo Saturday. If the forecast is wrong and it dosen't get windy AGAIN. :mad:

Vegas X-Star
05-11-2007, 01:55 PM
Wakeseeky - My X-Star is blue and white...

Made it out to the lake on Wednesday afternoon and got some pretty smooth water. We put in at Lake Mead/Boulder Harbor...it is just as vegashomeexpert described, not too good. I will never go there on a weekend...that place will be a zoo. I am out of town this weekend but Cottonwood Cove or Willow Beach are my choices for next weekend. I don't want to try to deal with Callville until the ramps are 100%.

WakeSeeky
05-11-2007, 05:54 PM
Wakeseeky - My X-Star is blue and white...

Made it out to the lake on Wednesday afternoon and got some pretty smooth water. We put in at Lake Mead/Boulder Harbor...it is just as vegashomeexpert described, not too good. I will never go there on a weekend...that place will be a zoo. I am out of town this weekend but Cottonwood Cove or Willow Beach are my choices for next weekend. I don't want to try to deal with Callville until the ramps are 100%.

Ah, we'd seen a new red & white X-Star a couple weeks ago, but I guess that wasn't you. :D We'll keep an eye out for ya.

I'm not fond of whatever-they're-calling it now marina anyway, and I hear you about Callville during construction. We're going to Parker next weekend and I don't know where yet Memorial weekend but it won't be Mead. Hopefully after all that Callville will be in better shape and we can settle down for the summer. :cool:

vegashomeexpert
05-12-2007, 12:14 PM
Having some idle thoughts last night and it occured to me that there are a total of about 7 lanes, plus Hemenway for the adventurous types, to serve the entire lower basin. Add about that many between Echo, Temple Bar, and what is left of Overton for the upper basin.... Memorial day will be a real nightmare!

WakeSeeky
05-13-2007, 01:18 PM
Well, bad news about Echo... :( It's low. REALLY low. I'm talking Hemmenway low with much less room to maneuver. I've got a picture (sorry, it's lousy, I was in a hurry) what you can't see here is the, ahem, rather strong wind that was blowing. :mad: When we came back in, it really wasn't practical to launch or load more than one boat at a time because of the wind and lack of space. It's ok though, since you can just pull up on the SANDBAR by the dock to wait. :rolleyes:

And just for giggles we decided to stop at Callville on the way out, roll the dice so to speak. Launch ramp was backed up past the east side of the parking lot at 10am. Still only two lanes there.

Echo is easily four lanes, but there's not much room for the boats. The wind when we recovered made it especially interesting. Going out past the marina store is fun too, the "deep" part is wide enough for two boats to pass, but anyone tied up to the dock there turns it into an adventure. Anyone know when they're planning to reconfigure Echo? The good news is the riding is still awesome in the Overton arm. Once we straggled out of the marina, we had great water until the wind came up.

WakeSeeky
05-13-2007, 01:21 PM
Just for comparison, I happen to have a picture from when we were at Echo in February. This one hurt. Echo's been my favorite marina since the first time we launched there. It was really painful to see the launch in such bad shape. :(

vegashomeexpert
05-14-2007, 11:31 AM
Hi Andrea: Thanks for the update. Very sad! Amazing water in the February pic. When the water was high, we used to have to wiggle around the restroom at the top of the ramp and put in right there. What a difference 10 years makes. Looks like Willow and Cottonwood are in the future. I am a little concerned about the steepness of the ramp at Willow but you will have no problem with the F-250.

WakeSeeky
05-14-2007, 12:15 PM
Hi Andrea: Thanks for the update. Very sad! Amazing water in the February pic. When the water was high, we used to have to wiggle around the restroom at the top of the ramp and put in right there. What a difference 10 years makes. Looks like Willow and Cottonwood are in the future. I am a little concerned about the steepness of the ramp at Willow but you will have no problem with the F-250.

The February picture was taken from the hotel, looking down from our room we could see that when the water was up you could almost have pulled a boat up to the first floor rooms. Amazing. And see what you're missing in the winter? :D

We're out of town the next two weekends, I hope that gives them a chance to straighten out the ramp situation at Callville and Boulder Harbor, but it looks like we'll be checking out Cottonwood as well.

WakeSeeky
06-05-2007, 05:47 PM
Update on Callville, if you Vegas folks haven't been there, it's... variable. :rolleyes:

There are three skinny lanes open, which means two most of the time. Saturday morning, around 7:30am some #%!&* takes a lane & a half, pulls his car up to the boat & starts loading. We were probably 4th/5th in line, but this genius backed boats up all the way up the ramp. Once he got moving, the ramp cleared by the time we were out of the marina. Coming back in around 2:00pm, a ranger was at the dock and recovery was fast, even with a lot of boats. How come everyone can put a trailer in straight with a ranger watching?

Sunday, again about 7:30am, maybe 3 other boats total. No wait, beautiful. Came back in around noon, oh boy. No ranger & it did not go well. Took us an hour to recover. No kidding, a guy with a SINGLE jetski jackknifed his trailer into a lane & a half before he proceeded to load his gear. :mad:

So. It seems like most people early in the morning know how to launch and recover. With a ranger there, miraculously everyone can mange it. No ranger + afternoon boaters = not a good combination.

But Sunday we went out and wrecked some glass. Man it was a beautiful day!! :D

Vegas X-Star
06-06-2007, 06:17 PM
Wakeseeky - We went to Echo last Sunday. It looks like the pictures you had shown...except the small center ramp is now moved to the extreme right of your picture. The real problem is when you get beside the store/marina...one lane in the water and the water quickly goes down to 1.5 feet deep. We spun up some rocks but no prop damage. On the way in we walked the boat through...I guess you could coast too. Too bad because the water was glass all day with very few boats around. I am so sore still...had to go to the Chiropractor on Monday for my neck. Faceplanted on a failed 360, which always feels good.

We are looking to go out again this weekend. From what you describe at Callville, I am heading to Willow Beach if possible. I have never even had one boat in front of me at that ramp.

Vegas Home Expert - I have never had any issues with the steepness of the Willow ramp. You have 2WD or something? I have a 4x4 Titan right now but haven't had to put it in 4WD to get out. I have also launched my old X-10 there with a 1/2 Chevy 2WD with no problems.

By the way guys, my name is Jeff.

WakeSeeky
06-06-2007, 08:16 PM
Nice to meet you Jeff, I'm Andrea. Sorry to hear about the faceplant! :( Hope you're feeling better.

Ugh I'm hate to hear that about Echo. It was bad going by the marina store a couple weeks ago, but it's going to be closed off soon if they don't move something. I love riding up there, it's almost always nice. You know the park web site says Echo is "Fully open and suitable for deep water launch"? :rolleyes:

Forgot to mention, we came close to needing 4WD to get out at Callville Sunday. The variety of materials currently used to construct the ramp are... interesting. It's steep, yeah, but mostly hard to get traction between different surfaces when they're wet and muddy. Moving people-weight forward in the boat, though, was enough for us. Of course, with everyone waiting around there are plenty of people to jump on bumpers, so even with 2WD you're probably ok. :rolleyes:

Thrall
06-07-2007, 11:43 AM
Trying to get off the lake on Mem Day at COnchas, in NM.
Lake was pretty busy and a T-storm was coming in about 2:30pm.
We were one of the last boats to make it in, since the wallys all headed to the ramp leaving some good water to board/ski on.
Spent almost 2hrs waiting for our truck to run thru the line and get to the ramp. By then the storm had passed but it was almost 5pm.
There were probably 100 tow rigs lined up for a 2 lane ramp (3 lane, but never saw more than 2 at a time, idiots). You could see the last 10 vehicles or so which should give plenty of time to get your boat close to the ramp when you see your turn coming up. I'd say at least 1/3 of the boaters would wait until their trailer was backed down into the water before they fired up and motored across the bay and loaded up.
Drove me F...in nuts. Was taking over 5min per boat to load up (had nothing better to do but sit in the boat and drink beer and time the gomers getting out.).
As we and the last 15 boats or so got out, it was going about 2min per boat because everyone was so anxios by then ??
WOrst part was a bunch of clowns in an XStar nonetheless. Driver backs in, both guide poles all bent up, and his homies decided to take a run and weeren't even in the no wake zone when his trlr hit the water. His truck sat there for a good 5min before they came in and got on the trailer!

Sodar
06-07-2007, 11:47 AM
Wakeseeky - We went to Echo last Sunday. It looks like the pictures you had shown...except the small center ramp is now moved to the extreme right of your picture. The real problem is when you get beside the store/marina...one lane in the water and the water quickly goes down to 1.5 feet deep. We spun up some rocks but no prop damage. On the way in we walked the boat through...I guess you could coast too.

Jeff, so the only way out to the lake from the ramp is through 1.5' of water?

Vegas X-Star
06-07-2007, 12:35 PM
Jeff, so the only way out to the lake from the ramp is through 1.5' of water?

Yup. I know...unbelievable. And it is barely wide enough for one boat too. Something has to change this week or that entire marina will be shut down. It is a fairly large marina too with a few hundred slips, gas station, store, etc.

Sodar
06-07-2007, 12:38 PM
Yup. I know...unbelievable. And it is barely wide enough for one boat too. Something has to change this week or that entire marina will be shut down. It is a fairly large marina too with a few hundred slips, gas station, store, etc.

Wow, that is ridiculous! I know the marina well, but have not been there since last summer. I try to stay on the lower river, since I have a smaller boat.

vegashomeexpert
06-07-2007, 12:48 PM
Wakeseeky - We went to Echo last Sunday. It looks like the pictures you had shown...except the small center ramp is now moved to the extreme right of your picture. The real problem is when you get beside the store/marina...one lane in the water and the water quickly goes down to 1.5 feet deep. We spun up some rocks but no prop damage. On the way in we walked the boat through...I guess you could coast too. Too bad because the water was glass all day with very few boats around. I am so sore still...had to go to the Chiropractor on Monday for my neck. Faceplanted on a failed 360, which always feels good.

We are looking to go out again this weekend. From what you describe at Callville, I am heading to Willow Beach if possible. I have never even had one boat in front of me at that ramp.

Vegas Home Expert - I have never had any issues with the steepness of the Willow ramp. You have 2WD or something? I have a 4x4 Titan right now but haven't had to put it in 4WD to get out. I have also launched my old X-10 there with a 1/2 Chevy 2WD with no problems.

By the way guys, my name is Jeff.
Hi Jeff, I am Jeff as well!
Went to Calville Friday afternoon about 3:00. There does not seem to be any issues during the week. Epic day! Went to Bonelli bay in the upper basin. Have never seen such glass no matter which way you went! Lit a fire and BBQ'd. Left the beach at 9:15 and back at Calville at 10:00. There were more people launching and retreiving at 10:00 at night than 3:00 in the afternoon. Oh, yes we tow with 4 wd and used it to get out of Calville. Those pipes are slick and pointed the wrong direction. My Willow comment came from an experience with watching someone doing burn outs up the ramp to get their pontoon boat out. We had a smaller boat at the time and did not have any issues.

WakeSeeky
06-07-2007, 01:10 PM
Wow, that is ridiculous! I know the marina well, but have not been there since last summer. I try to stay on the lower river, since I have a smaller boat.

Good grief, we just went to Parker for the first time a couple weeks ago. I would think with a smaller boat you'd want to stay off that water altogether! 8p What a zoo that place is. Havasu was nice though, once we gave up the river & went up there.

WakeSeeky
06-07-2007, 01:16 PM
Those pipes are slick and pointed the wrong direction.

With a couple nasty dips thrown in for good measure. Saw one of the small Range Rovers, I think, the new-ish one, towing an X-80. I just thought, my friend, you have cajones aplenty. :worthy:

So really, all I need to do is figure out how to keep getting paid but not actually have to work during the week and then the ramps will be a breeze, huh? Lemme go talk to my boss. :rolleyes: :D

Sodar
06-07-2007, 01:35 PM
Good grief, we just went to Parker for the first time a couple weeks ago. I would think with a smaller boat you'd want to stay off that water altogether! 8p What a zoo that place is. Havasu was nice though, once we gave up the river & went up there.

I go lower on the river than that!! We are looking to buy property a little north of Blythe, this picture is of Memorial Day weekend on Sunday!! Parker has gotten pretty busy over the last few years.

Havasu can be great down around the Springs, just stay away from all the looneys in the channel and you will be just fine!

WakeSeeky
06-07-2007, 02:29 PM
I go lower on the river than that!! We are looking to buy property a little north of Blythe, this picture is of Memorial Day weekend on Sunday!!

Havasu can be great down around the Springs, just stay away from all the looneys in the channel and you will be just fine!

Yeah, we were down around the Springs and it was fine there. We were with friends, so we were kind of limited as to where we could go. Also, I suppose this doesn't bother you, but SkySki + river weeds = no bueno. :noface:

Yes, that does look better, but Memorial weekend friends in Utah took us to a lake that no one seems to go to, it was pure glass all weekend AND weed free. :D

CoFooter
06-07-2007, 02:40 PM
Sodar, where is that. Looks familiar. My sister and her family have a place below the Headgate Dam (south of Bluewater Casino) in a park between the dam and the train bridge on the Az side. This looks like a place a mile south of that on the Cali side. Then again a lot of that area looks the same........

Sodar
06-07-2007, 02:43 PM
Sodar, where is that. Looks familiar. My sister and her family have a place below the Headgate Dam (south of Bluewater Casino) in a park between the dam and the train bridge on the Az side. This looks like a place a mile south of that on the Cali side. Then again a lot of that area looks the same........

This is about 20 miles North of Blythe.

Where you are talking about is in the Big River area, which is about 30 miles north of here.

Sodar
06-07-2007, 02:46 PM
Yeah, we were down around the Springs and it was fine there. We were with friends, so we were kind of limited as to where we could go. Also, I suppose this doesn't bother you, but SkySki + river weeds = no bueno. :noface:

Got ya! I did not feel any weeds on the bottom, but when the river really flows (early morning and in the evening), large clumps of weed flow down... I had to clean my rudder off after it sat on the anchor for a few hours in the evening.

WakeSeeky
06-07-2007, 03:52 PM
Got ya! I did not feel any weeds on the bottom, but when the river really flows (early morning and in the evening), large clumps of weed flow down... I had to clean my rudder off after it sat on the anchor for a few hours in the evening.

Yeah, we had to clean our foils off too. :D Riding along, thinking, hmmm, all of a sudden I can hardly fly this thing? Oh. That's from the PLANT hanging off my foil. :rolleyes:

Vegas X-Star
06-11-2007, 12:41 PM
Good news for once at Lake Mead...Echo Bay is solid now. The area where I spun up rocks last week is 11' deep now. They must have dredged/pumped all week. We got a few decent runs in yesterday before it got SUPER windy.

WakeSeeky
06-11-2007, 12:56 PM
Good news for once at Lake Mead...Echo Bay is solid now. The area where I spun up rocks last week is 11' deep now. They must have dredged/pumped all week. We got a few decent runs in yesterday before it got SUPER windy.

That is great news! Thanks for the update. Did they widen that any, or is it still one boat at a time? Rumor is that Callville will be torn up for another 3 weeks. We're going to have to go out there next weekend, friends in town, might leave the boat at their slip for the weekend rather than deal with that mess every day.

I have a new favorite marina now, we went to Cottonwood on Sunday. Man is that nice! Ya'll were teasin' me about the steepness, right? 8p I can't remember the last time we launched on concrete, it's a beautiful, beautiful thing. It was just great until the wind came up, which happened WAY before I was ready to quit riding. :mad: Anyhow, thanks for the input on that one, we'll definitely be back there again.

Vegas X-Star
06-11-2007, 02:30 PM
Andrea...you can launch 3 boats fairly comfortably at Echo but there is never a line. Cottonwood is very nice.

Word on the street is there will be checkpoints coming into the marinas next weekend (6/16). I never drink too much but be careful and make sure you have life vests for all those friends.

WakeSeeky
06-11-2007, 04:20 PM
Thanks for the info, I guess it's probably time, been awhile since we've seen checkpoints.

Hey, anyone been to Hemmenway lately? I was asked about conditions there, but we haven't been there in a couple months, so I don't know. :confused:

vegashomeexpert
06-12-2007, 12:47 AM
That is great news! Thanks for the update. Did they widen that any, or is it still one boat at a time? Rumor is that Callville will be torn up for another 3 weeks. We're going to have to go out there next weekend, friends in town, might leave the boat at their slip for the weekend rather than deal with that mess every day.

I have a new favorite marina now, we went to Cottonwood on Sunday. Man is that nice! Ya'll were teasin' me about the steepness, right? 8p I can't remember the last time we launched on concrete, it's a beautiful, beautiful thing. It was just great until the wind came up, which happened WAY before I was ready to quit riding. :mad: Anyhow, thanks for the input on that one, we'll definitely be back there again.
The steepness was my comment about Willow, not Cottonwood. Gotta love not having to hike to the car at Cottonwood, too. Drive time is about the same as Echo.

O2BESOHUGE
06-12-2007, 10:16 AM
My Girlfriend And Her Daughter Have Never Been Around The Lake Or Water Before We Met...so Me Trying To Tell Them What To Do And Them Actually Doing It Is Like Watching A Monkey HuMping A Football! They Have No Clue! They Have A Lot Of Learning To Do And I Hope I Have Patience With Them

Sodar
06-12-2007, 12:09 PM
Any of you Vegas guys and girl hear about a boat sinking outside of Calville? My buddy said that there was an accident and a boat sank out there last weekend, but I cannot find any info...

mtnsun
06-12-2007, 12:19 PM
This past Sunday at the local lake, as I am backing down the boat launch. Well I got closer to the water line and the launch dock and I noticed that it was way out of wack! I'm thinking..... Ok, either that dock is seriously out of place or someone put something in the brownies I ate! (could have been both!). The dock was so cocked out of line, you actually had to turn once you reached the water to line up your boat with the dock!
Well last week we had a serious wind storm blow thru the front range area and it turns out it blew the dock off its footings. The winds were clocked at 102mph! Ok, that was Wed. of last week... Now you would think that by the weekend, when it's packed, they would have corrected the problem! Such is not the case. It made for some tense moments at the boat ramp.

WakeSeeky
06-12-2007, 12:58 PM
The steepness was my comment about Willow, not Cottonwood. Gotta love not having to hike to the car at Cottonwood, too. Drive time is about the same as Echo.

Gotcha. We'll go over the dam if we have to, but I'd rather not. Cottonwood wasn't a bad drive at all, although (go figure) I missed the turn at Searchlight, so that added a bit of time until I could find a place to turn around. Silly me, I forgot I was in Nevada and I was actually looking for a sign. :rolleyes:

WakeSeeky
06-12-2007, 01:02 PM
Any of you Vegas guys and girl hear about a boat sinking outside of Calville? My buddy said that there was an accident and a boat sank out there last weekend, but I cannot find any info...

Haven't heard anything, but that doesn't mean anything, it usually only makes the news if someone gets hurt or killed. There was a boat fire at one of the marinas (don't remember offhand which one) just over a week ago. I'll keep an ear out, though.

WakeSeeky
06-12-2007, 02:30 PM
Any of you Vegas guys and girl hear about a boat sinking outside of Calville? My buddy said that there was an accident and a boat sank out there last weekend, but I cannot find any info...

No boat sank, but any chance this accident (http://www.lvrj.com/news/7820742.html) is the one your friend heard about?

Sodar
06-12-2007, 02:55 PM
Wow, that sucks for that guy!

Sorry Andrea... I thought he said it was just outside of Calville, but I guess it was by the entrance to the Narrows if you are heading North. He said that he saw it there on Saturday and it looked pretty recent. He said there was all kinds of coolers and boat stuff on the rocks and the bow of a boat pointed straight up, sunk...

WakeSeeky
06-12-2007, 03:32 PM
Wow, that sucks for that guy!

Sorry Andrea... I thought he said it was just outside of Calville, but I guess it was by the entrance to the Narrows if you are heading North. He said that he saw it there on Saturday and it looked pretty recent. He said there was all kinds of coolers and boat stuff on the rocks and the bow of a boat pointed straight up, sunk...

Geez. No, hadn't heard about that one. Weird, there's nothing to hit there unless you're really trying. :confused: Hopefully everyone's ok, since I don't see anything about it in the RJ.

WakeSeeky
06-12-2007, 04:10 PM
Is this internet thingy awesome or what? Still don't know what happened, but the time frame looks right for this accident (http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977021772) (scroll down to the 3rd picture).

That boat maybe looks swamped? People pull in bow forward, a big wave comes and WHOOSH the boat's full of water and gets pulled in. Anyway, looks like they had time to pull their stuff out. Hope the insurance was paid up. :rolleyes:

Sodar
06-12-2007, 04:46 PM
Is this internet thingy awesome or what? Still don't know what happened, but the time frame looks right for this accident (http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977021772) (scroll down to the 3rd picture).

That boat maybe looks swamped? People pull in bow forward, a big wave comes and WHOOSH the boat's full of water and gets pulled in. Anyway, looks like they had time to pull their stuff out. Hope the insurance was paid up. :rolleyes:

Thatta Girl!! Nice Find!! Pics posted June 6th, that must be it!!

WakeSeeky
06-12-2007, 05:13 PM
Thatta Girl!! Nice Find!! Pics posted June 6th, that must be it!!

Google is my friend. ;)

vegashomeexpert
06-20-2007, 11:24 AM
What are they thinking? Went to Cottonwood Sunday. Half the ramp is closed as they are building an addition to their covered dock. Took the ramp down to about 4 lanes and it was busier than I have ever seen it there. Still not much of a wait, though. Yes Andrea, it was very stange launching on a cement ramp! Interesting note: The water came up several inches, maybe as much as 6, in the early part of the day and then went down. Must be due to power demand at the dam. Still, that lake is at capacity while everything up river is less than half. Not fair!

ProTour X9
06-20-2007, 12:08 PM
Took this picture for the cops. This is the boat launch at the public park on the lake. That green sign says:

BOAT LAUNCH
------>
SWIM AREA
<------

There were 3 boats parked there, but unfortunately they were out on the lake when we took the pic.

More stories of park and waverunners will follow somewhere sometime...

WakeSeeky
06-20-2007, 12:35 PM
What are they thinking? Went to Cottonwood Sunday. Half the ramp is closed as they are building an addition to their covered dock. Took the ramp down to about 4 lanes and it was busier than I have ever seen it there. Still not much of a wait, though. Yes Andrea, it was very stange launching on a cement ramp! Interesting note: The water came up several inches, maybe as much as 6, in the early part of the day and then went down. Must be due to power demand at the dam. Still, that lake is at capacity while everything up river is less than half. Not fair!

NOOO!!!! :mad: Why do they always wait until summer to mess with the ramps?? Ugh. We're thinking of heading down there around 4th of July, I hope they get the dock done.

Lesseee.... update on Callville since we had no choice last weekend. About the same, ok sometimes, crazy busy others. We did manage to pick a time Sunday coming in where there was almost no one there. Waited longer for the cart than to put the truck in.

Havasu is full too, Arizona did a much better job negotiating water rights than Nevada did. :(

Vegas X-Star
06-21-2007, 12:10 PM
I had heard that Callville was back up to 6 lanes or so. Too bad that marina is where most of the idiots go to get to Sandy Cove. If I put in there, we typically go all the way out through the narrows to find smooth water. Saturday and Sunday are supposed to be super windy though...I might cry.

We got on the water last Saturday at 5:30AM and it was already whitecapping in the middle of the lake. My ultimate dream is to have my own lake. Funny thing is, back where I grew up (St. Louis) I could have my own ski lake, 80 acres of land, a boathouse and 2,000sf house for what a typical house here costs...

You guys should hit up Willow Beach one time this year...give her a chance.

WakeSeeky
06-21-2007, 01:02 PM
Callville was NOT up to 6 lanes last weekend, we launched there Sat. & Sun. (yes, into the freakin' wind :mad: ). However, they were definitely prepping the area south of the little dock, so maybe that opened this week?

Is Willow really great enough to justify going over the dam? Why not Temple Bar if you're going to go through that mess anyway? Honestly curious, I really didn't like riding the river at Parker, but maybe Willow is different. Are there weeds? I'm not riding anywhere with weeds again. 8p

Sodar
06-21-2007, 01:28 PM
Then you got @ss clowns like this!!

This was two Saturdays ago... We got into the marina at 2:30 and pulled the boat, then the had to go back and pull the Sea-Doos. Ended up pulling out around 7:15!!

dpolen
06-21-2007, 02:50 PM
Then you got @ss clowns like this!!

This was two Saturdays ago... We got into the marina at 2:30 and pulled the boat, then the had to go back and pull the Sea-Doos. Ended up pulling out around 7:15!!

I don't get it...how can somebody get that crooked?..and that appears to be before they started drinking on the lake since the boat is still on the trailer. I know I'm not a pro at backing a trailer...but something's wrong when you see stuff like this.

WakeSeeky
06-21-2007, 04:27 PM
I don't get it...how can somebody get that crooked?..and that appears to be before they started drinking on the lake since the boat is still on the trailer. I know I'm not a pro at backing a trailer...but something's wrong when you see stuff like this.

Oh, you haven't lived until you've seen someone do the same thing with JETSKI trailer. :rolleyes:

Cameron, geez, I probably saw you and didn't know it. I think it took us a little over an hour to pull the boat out that day. I don't remember exactly what time we came in, but that was the Saturday we decided to drive to Cottonwood for Sunday. 8p

nuckinfutz
06-22-2007, 01:00 PM
Found these on the net yesterday. I thought I had problems with a chip or 2 in the Gelcoat! Look at the guy on the back in Picture 2!!!

http://telcon-solutions.com/Boat/boat_splash_down_001.jpg
http://telcon-solutions.com/Boat/boat_splash_down_002.jpg
http://telcon-solutions.com/Boat/boat_splash_down_003.jpg

dpolen
06-22-2007, 01:36 PM
I saw that one on another forum...that's just nuts. What do you think that guy on the back of the boat is thinking after the bow starts falling...amazingly, I heard nobody got hurt.

Sodar
06-22-2007, 01:50 PM
Oh, you haven't lived until you've seen someone do the same thing with JETSKI trailer. :rolleyes:

Cameron, geez, I probably saw you and didn't know it. I think it took us a little over an hour to pull the boat out that day. I don't remember exactly what time we came in, but that was the Saturday we decided to drive to Cottonwood for Sunday. 8p

I kind of blended in with the surroundings! I did not have my boat... we had my buddies 27' Hallett...

I think I am going to do a Mead trip later this summer with my boat, if I do, I will let all you Vegas peeps know, maybe we can meet up.

Sodar
06-22-2007, 01:58 PM
Found these on the net yesterday. I thought I had problems with a chip or 2 in the Gelcoat! Look at the guy on the back in Picture 2!!!


mazingly, the boat you posted had no gelcoat damage. I guess that they were able to repair the boat and it is now running again. The only thing that was damaged was the generator sound proofing and the windshield.

This 72' Sunseeker was not so lucky!! IAll of this boat's electronics are being parted out on this website: http://cooperss.com/6-32-Marine+Electronics-listings

TMCNo1
06-22-2007, 03:29 PM
Found these on the net yesterday. I thought I had problems with a chip or 2 in the Gelcoat! Look at the guy on the back in Picture 2!!!

http://telcon-solutions.com/Boat/boat_splash_down_001.jpg
http://telcon-solutions.com/Boat/boat_splash_down_002.jpg
http://telcon-solutions.com/Boat/boat_splash_down_003.jpg


OMG, the doctor told my wife not to make any sudden moves for a couple months after she had that breast enhancement surgery.

WakeSeeky
06-22-2007, 05:40 PM
I kind of blended in with the surroundings! I did not have my boat... we had my buddies 27' Hallett...

I think I am going to do a Mead trip later this summer with my boat, if I do, I will let all you Vegas peeps know, maybe we can meet up.

Ah, you were in stealth mode. Post something if you do come out, we can cruise by and throw some rollers your way. ;) :D

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-22-2007, 05:52 PM
I saw that one on another forum...that's just nuts. What do you think that guy on the back of the boat is thinking after the bow starts falling...amazingly, I heard nobody got hurt.
I bet he's thinking, Lets see Billy Mays get THESE stains out of my undies and brite white again.

betsy&david Harrison
06-22-2007, 05:55 PM
I bet he's thinking, Lets see Billy Mays get THESE stains out of my undies and brite white again.
He can use the ol "Magic Eraser" can't he?

WakeSeeky
06-25-2007, 12:51 PM
Update for anyone interested... Got out Sat. AM, Callville is still three lanes. However, one of the cart drivers told my husband the other side of the dock is supposed to be open by next weekend, so that'll be another three lanes. Just in time for everyone to show up for the 4th! :rolleyes:

Anybody else tired of the wind EVERY weekend?? :mad:

Vegas X-Star
06-26-2007, 08:27 PM
Update for anyone interested... Got out Sat. AM, Callville is still three lanes. However, one of the cart drivers told my husband the other side of the dock is supposed to be open by next weekend, so that'll be another three lanes. Just in time for everyone to show up for the 4th! :rolleyes:

Anybody else tired of the wind EVERY weekend?? :mad:

Yeah, the wind is killing me. Last weekend, got on the water at 5:30AM to whitecaps. This weekend, I planned on going out on Sunday because it was allegedly supposed to be less windy than Saturday. After the fact, Saturday ended up being better and we didn't go out on Sunday because it was like 25MPH wind. I hate the desert. Within the next 10 years I will have a private lake...I promise.

WakeSeeky
06-27-2007, 12:21 PM
Yeah, the wind is killing me. Last weekend, got on the water at 5:30AM to whitecaps. This weekend, I planned on going out on Sunday because it was allegedly supposed to be less windy than Saturday. After the fact, Saturday ended up being better and we didn't go out on Sunday because it was like 25MPH wind. I hate the desert. Within the next 10 years I will have a private lake...I promise.

Oh, well, personally the only place I'd even consider moving would be farther south. Where else are you gonna ride on glass all winter while everybody else wonders if they really did winterize properly? :D I'll take spring winds over snow and freezing any day.

Saturday morning wasn't bad at all, surprisingly. Sunday though, ugh. Didn't even launch. :mad: Notice how about Tuesday through Thursday last week were dead calm though. :rolleyes:

gmille39
06-27-2007, 12:49 PM
Where is Calville?

vegashomeexpert
06-28-2007, 11:29 AM
Callville is currently the main ramp on the lower basin of Lake Mead and is about 30 miles from Las Vegas.

WakeSeeky
07-01-2007, 09:41 PM
Callville = three lanes. :mad: Supposedly there's a dispute with the contractor or something. Anyway, on to the pictures!

Seems to be something behind the truck...

WakeSeeky
07-01-2007, 09:45 PM
Let's take a closer look.... why yes! It's his TRAILER. :rolleyes:

Guy was moving pretty fast when he hit the water, and we think he left his straps on. The whole trailer tongue broke. It was ok though, it only took up two of the three lanes.

Unfortunately, I did not get a picture of the Air Nautique that was pouring black smoke out the back end. I was busy deciding if I needed to get out of the blast radius. It ended up not actually catching on fire, but it tried hard. Sad to see. :(

vegashomeexpert
07-16-2007, 12:13 PM
Echo! Showed up at Echo at 11:00 yesterday. Nobody putting in or taking out! (Maybe the wind scared them away?) The ramp is at least 3 lanes wide. What a pleasant surprise. Went north towards glory hole. The wind stopped!!! Had 3 hours of glass from 1:00-4:00 and the n the wind came up again. What a treat?! Some very nice beaches in the area, too....

Vegas X-Star
07-17-2007, 05:22 PM
Jeff - That is what I have been saying all summer...it seems that it always gets calm up there in the middle of the day. Before 8AM it is good...then the wind kicks up for a few hours...then glass the rest of the day, awesome. Not too many boats either.

Andrea - Think I saw you guys towing into Callville on Sunday morning around 7:30AM. I was just taking out and heading back home after a super early morning session...had to get a friend back to the airport.

I had to go to Callville for a company outing on Saturday...that ramp is the worst ramp I have ever seen. The west side of the 2-lane ramp is ridiculous...one side is at least a foot deeper than the other. My boat kept getting on the trailer crooked...no matter how slow we pulled out, or how much I pulled it down. I ended up having to get ratchet straps out and winch the back down in the water. I swear, if that place gets 8 perfect lanes I will still never go back. Since 2003, that place has been my bread and butter but this weekend did it for me...never again. Too many tubers, drunks, idiots and jet-ski's. That was the first time I had been there this year. Got to the ramp at 7AM on Saturday and waited 45 minutes...one boat was broke down in the water and there were several trailers of jet-ski's which always slow things down. Got back to the ramp at 5PM on Saturday and waited 90 minutes to get out. The ramp is corrugated metal (oh my God) and many people didn't have 4x4...which equalled a 15 minute tire smoking session for each of them. Back to Echo Bay next Sunday...yeah!!!

WakeSeeky
07-17-2007, 07:40 PM
Andrea - Think I saw you guys towing into Callville on Sunday morning around 7:30AM. I was just taking out and heading back home after a super early morning session...had to get a friend back to the airport.


Yup, I thought that was you! Hopefully next time we'll actually cross paths... although maybe not. ;) Both Saturday and Sunday last weekend were the least busy we've seen Callville all summer, I think we had to wait for two trucks one time, took maybe 20 minutes from dropping the husband off to pulling the boat out. We had the timing mojo this weekend! :D

Yes, the ramp is a mess, but we haven't had any problems getting the boat on. Better lane is by the dock, but if we get the outside lane we just hold the trailer guideposts pulling out to keep the boat straight. I'm deeply, deeply thankful for 4WD though.

I love Echo myself, but we had glass for longer than we wanted to ride in the narrows and out into Virgin, so you won't hear me complain. Probably the best weekend we've had all summer, it was just gorgeous!

yzwiley
07-17-2007, 08:22 PM
I had my own nightmare yesterday. Launched at 2PM, went skiing for the day, get back to the ramp at 7PM to find a boulder on my hood, a smashed up windshield, a blown out passenger door glass, glass throughout the interior of the truck, ...all embedded in sticky Sobe drink that the punks used to bust my side window with.

Needless to say, I will never ski out of that place ever again. Eff' the Elkhorn launchramp on the Sacramento River and the punks that frequent the place.

JKTX21
07-17-2007, 08:43 PM
Man I can empathize with you about that. Nothing worse than people destroying property for no reason. I've had two windows busted in my driveway of a fairly nice neighborhood. Just today I found GUM on my wheel... morons.

I am constantly waiting in the shadows, getting stronger.... waiting for the day to catch punks in the act.

roddydog
07-17-2007, 09:23 PM
I had my own nightmare yesterday. Launched at 2PM, went skiing for the day, get back to the ramp at 7PM to find a boulder on my hood, a smashed up windshield, a blown out passenger door glass, glass throughout the interior of the truck, ...all embedded in sticky Sobe drink that the punks used to bust my side window with.

Needless to say, I will never ski out of that place ever again. Eff' the Elkhorn launchramp on the Sacramento River and the punks that frequent the place.
:confused: :confused: How is that much damage possible without anyone seeing it??

yzwiley
07-18-2007, 11:00 AM
:confused: :confused: How is that much damage possible without anyone seeing it??

Because we were the only ones to use the facility at that time, ...so I guess. At least we got good water.

There is a host at the facility, but he is almost deaf and blind, ...literaly. No joke. Nice guy, but the county needs to review his effectiveness. The deputy that investigated the scene told me that this happens frequently there. Crazy!

Monte
07-18-2007, 11:09 AM
I had my own nightmare yesterday. Launched at 2PM, went skiing for the day, get back to the ramp at 7PM to find a boulder on my hood, a smashed up windshield, a blown out passenger door glass, glass throughout the interior of the truck, ...all embedded in sticky Sobe drink that the punks used to bust my side window with.

Needless to say, I will never ski out of that place ever again. Eff' the Elkhorn launchramp on the Sacramento River and the punks that frequent the place.

That sucks! I hope they find the punks that did THAT. If they don't get caught this time.. They'll do it again.. Noting p!$$es me off more than somebody with no respect for other peoples property:mad: You may want to submit a request to the law enforcement division responsible for that area that they may want to step up patrols there...

yzwiley
07-18-2007, 11:32 AM
You may want to submit a request to the law enforcement division responsible for that area that they may want to step up patrols there...

I think they may have already done that. When I was on the phone with the 911 dispatcher a deputy pulled up to us only because it was in his normal route to cruise through the lot. Ironic indeed.

RK@UST
08-03-2007, 04:21 PM
Pulling pins
Here is a lesson learned, but would never have thought this would happen.
Launch, park truck and trailer.
Spend the day on the water.
Get back to ramp , my buddy backs the trailer down.
Pull the boat on , very easy, everything is good.
Wrong.
Trailer comes totally out of the receiver and now the boat, trailer, and myself are resting on the ramp detached from my truck.
I had a look of , " I can't believe what I just saw "
There was a guy sitting at a dock on a party barge, and says, " Someone must be pulling pins, that's the second one I've seen.
I pulled the boat off the trailer, safety chains still attached of course, and my buddy put the trailer on the truck after borrowing a pin from someone.
Pulled the boat out of the water, dropped the trailer , and went to Wal Mart to buy a LOCKING pin. Actually bought 2.
We were very lucky to have not hurt anything, and imagine if I was doing 70 on the way home when it worked it's way out.
they stole some things out of the back of my truck too.
If you don't have locking pins, get them.

JR34
08-04-2007, 01:40 AM
Pulling pins
Here is a lesson learned, but would never have thought this would happen.
Launch, park truck and trailer.
Spend the day on the water.
Get back to ramp , my buddy backs the trailer down.
Pull the boat on , very easy, everything is good.
Wrong.
Trailer comes totally out of the receiver and now the boat, trailer, and myself are resting on the ramp detached from my truck.
I had a look of , " I can't believe what I just saw "
There was a guy sitting at a dock on a party barge, and says, " Someone must be pulling pins, that's the second one I've seen.
I pulled the boat off the trailer, safety chains still attached of course, and my buddy put the trailer on the truck after borrowing a pin from someone.
Pulled the boat out of the water, dropped the trailer , and went to Wal Mart to buy a LOCKING pin. Actually bought 2.
We were very lucky to have not hurt anything, and imagine if I was doing 70 on the way home when it worked it's way out.
they stole some things out of the back of my truck too.
If you don't have locking pins, get them.

This crosses my mind almost every time I tow but have to admit never checked it at the ramp after a day out......thanks for the heads up and good idea on the locking pins. Glad you avoided damage or injury. Unbelieveable some people think doing things like this to others is fun??????

uawaterskier
08-04-2007, 01:45 AM
Pulling pins
Here is a lesson learned, but would never have thought this would happen.
Launch, park truck and trailer.
Spend the day on the water.
Get back to ramp , my buddy backs the trailer down.
Pull the boat on , very easy, everything is good.
Wrong.
Trailer comes totally out of the receiver and now the boat, trailer, and myself are resting on the ramp detached from my truck.
I had a look of , " I can't believe what I just saw "
There was a guy sitting at a dock on a party barge, and says, " Someone must be pulling pins, that's the second one I've seen.
I pulled the boat off the trailer, safety chains still attached of course, and my buddy put the trailer on the truck after borrowing a pin from someone.
Pulled the boat out of the water, dropped the trailer , and went to Wal Mart to buy a LOCKING pin. Actually bought 2.
We were very lucky to have not hurt anything, and imagine if I was doing 70 on the way home when it worked it's way out.
they stole some things out of the back of my truck too.
If you don't have locking pins, get them.and thats what the 4-way in the back seat is for...beating someone over the head. That is uncalled for. If people are pulling pins for pleasure thats just wrong. I bet it was on of those bass fishermen...probably saw the mastercraft logo on the trailer.

TMCNo1
08-04-2007, 06:53 AM
Cheapest insurance you will ever buy. Lock everything, hitch, receiver, wheels and spare.

6ballsisall
08-04-2007, 09:00 AM
and thats what the 4-way in the back seat is for...beating someone over the head. That is uncalled for. If people are pulling pins for pleasure thats just wrong. I bet it was on of those bass fishermen...probably saw the mastercraft logo on the trailer.


I doubt it.....fisherman may hate skiers but they also own a boat too and all the fisherman I know respect their equipment and others.

It was probably some young punk kids.....

The locking hitch is the way to go. My grandparents are full time RV'ers and they have one on their 5th wheel. Apparently it's also common on fueling stations to have peeps do that to their big 5th wheel rigs.

Not cool :mad:

billr
08-04-2007, 09:42 AM
I also remove the adapter for the trailer lights. They seem to like those too!

Ric
08-04-2007, 09:47 AM
wow and I thought I had problems with folks stealing the light fixtures from my trialer at the public ramp...... I don't have it so bad apparantly. Oh well, off to the private ski site where the birds may steal my leftover watermelon seeds :eek: