X10 on Ebay

[aprgriggs]

After all of your advice, I finally listed my 2003 X10 on Ebay. Please check it out and tell me what you think.

thanks,
April

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4523398467

[east tx skier]

Having sold quite a few things on ebay, I'd personally (not professionally) suggest a more extensive disclaimer (although you did say "as is." I can email you what I've used for many sales if you like.

Also, if I were selling something at this price, I would not use paypal as they'll take quite a bite. I'd stick with cashier's checks.

[Ryan]

Very nice posting. You offer a Huge bonus! "Financing: Mastercraft Dealer in Fort Worth, Texas is offered to help qualifying buyer with bank financing." But check the typo.

If it does not sell this time around you should buy and sell a bunch of stuff to get you feedback rating up. It looks sketchy with only 1 feedback rating. I don't know if you are under any time pressure, but you will probably get the most money and potential sale in April-June. You can also list on Flipsell.com for free. There are a lot of inboards on there. That's actually where I found my boat listed by my local dealer.

Best of luck selling!

[aprgriggs]

Having sold quite a few things on ebay, I'd personally (not professionally) suggest a disclaimer. I can email you what I've used for many sales if you like.

please send it to aprgriggs@yahoo.com

thanks

[aprgriggs]

ok, I went to search for my listing and I can't find it. can someone help me...it should be under wakeboard boats. Maybe it takes some time to search it??

It didn't come up under a Mastercraft search either. Help??

[MasterMason]

I belive it takes a day while they check the add copy, that way they don't get in as much trouble.

[east tx skier]

You got it.

[Tom Wortham]

I concur with Ryan's comments. E-Bay shoppers really look at the "feedback" numbers. Also, if you don't get any bites... I would wait to relist in April. Nice ride... I'm sure you hate to let it go. From looking at other E-Bay listings... you could have some competition. You might also want to try Boat Trader. Dallas Paper is expensive... but, I got a lot of calls when I WAS going to sell my 86 MC. Good Luck.

[Ric]

Listing looks good.
Comments
Go get you a nice pic that is not a driveway pic if you get some good weather and use it for your main pic.
Good luck and watch the counter numbers fly
It's incredible how many people will look at your boat on ebay.
Also, nice move offering the financing at local dealer so you can use it as a trade-in!

[east tx skier]

April, I'd also suggest that you edit the title of your listing and add the words "Master Craft" to it. Ebay's search engine is picky and although we all know it's one word, not everyone does.

[Ric]

April, I'd also suggest that you edit the title of your listing and add the words "Master Craft" to it. Ebay's search engine is picky and although we all know it's one word, not everyone does.
good catch doug, I will add to that
cram every related word you can in that title line
ski boat, wakeboard boat, mastercraft, master craft enter all that will fit and it will, help you in someone's search and yes, it takes 4-12 hours for your listing to show up in a search even though you can see it

[aprgriggs]

Listing looks good.

Also, nice move offering the financing at local dealer so you can use it as a trade-in!

busted...I don't what to have to pay taxes on the new boat. :)

[east tx skier]

A lot of people do things like "not Malibu Nautique" as well. I've never had it take that long to show up in the search engine, but there usually is a bit of a delay.

Also, you might want to add something to the effect that it was garaged, regularly serviced, oil changed ever _ hours, records available, never been beached, never left in water overnight, fresh water only, rubbed with a diaper, cuddled on cold nights, etc., etc. where applicable. A buyer that's done his homework (or asked on this board what to look for) will be looking for a boat that's been treated like a family member to a ridiculous degree.

[aprgriggs]

A lot of people do things like "not Malibu Nautique" as well. I've never had it take that long to show up in the search engine, but there usually is a bit of a delay.

Also, you might want to add something to the effect that it was garaged, regularly serviced, oil changed ever _ hours, records available, never been beached, never left in water overnight, fresh water only, rubbed with a diaper, cuddled on cold nights, etc., etc. where applicable. A buyer that's done his homework (or asked on this board what to look for) will be looking for a boat that's been treated like a family member to a ridiculous degree.

well I didn't rub it with a diaper, but silk always made her shine. ;)

[east tx skier]

Silk as in Soy Milk? ;)

The rub with a diaper is actually from Ferris Beuler's Day Off.

"Ferris, he never drives it. He just rubs it with a diaper."

[east tx skier]

Speaking of taxes, I didn't see anything in there about that, i.e., Texas residents to pay _% sales tax. I don't know off hand if it applies to non-residents (I assume it doesn't), but there is a statute about sales tax on a used boat.

[MarkP]

All kidding aside, the cloth diaper is great for wiping fiberglass. I keep at least one in the truck and one in the boat.

[MasterMason]

In CA when you buy a used vehicle of any sort, the DMV hits you for the taxes when you do the transfer, it is all on the buyer.

[aprgriggs]

In CA when you buy a used vehicle of any sort, the DMV hits you for the taxes when you do the transfer, it is all on the buyer.

I put on ebay that taxes are not included. I think that should cover it.

[mitch]

Mark, Where can you buy cloth diaper's? Thx!

[Ric]

In CA when you buy a used vehicle of any sort, the DMV hits you for the taxes when you do the transfer, it is all on the buyer.
TX lets you knock down the taxable sale price of the new boat by the value of the tradein
if you take your buyer to the dealer, then the dealer can do that in & out for a couple of bucks and everyone is happy since the dealer also gets a shot at financing the new buyer

april, in my listing I mentioned, "buyer responsible for any and all taxes, transfers, shipping and registration fees" "FOB, my hometown"

most likely your buyer will be in contact with you many times and bidders arent the ones who will actually be buying your boat (if you have a reserve $ set)

[ski_king]

Looks good April!

I see that there is a 04 X-2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4522494555&category=63686&sspagename=WDVW) listed on ebay now that has a buy it now of $44K

[prostar205]

Aprgriggs -

The ad looks good. The only thing I would add is to Supersize the pictures.

Also, this is just my opinion, but since I recently bought a boat (2002 X30) and I have been looking for about 8 months, I would say your starting price is too high. Taking into consideration, my 2002 X30 with the L-18, tower speakers, 3-vent heater, shower, cockpit table, dual battery, binding blaster, etc.... was only $45K.

Sorry, I know its not something you want to hear. I truely hope you get that much.

Good luck.

PS205 (I think I need to change my screen name)

[aprgriggs]

Well I appreciate all of the help...I haven't got a bid yet, but I do have some people watching the boat. hopefully one of them will bid.

april

[aprgriggs]

Update:

I didn't get a bid, but I did get calls. Maybe one of them will turn out to be a buyer. Lets hope :D

So, My 2003 X10 is still for sale...any help would be appreciated.

April

[east tx skier]

As they say, if the fish aren't biting, try different lure and throw it out there again.

[aprgriggs]

As they say, if the fish aren't biting, try different lure and throw it out there again.

I am going to post it again, bu tI am going to wait a few weeks first.

[Ric]

good idea, hang in there. Spring fever will set in soon. There is a reason that I'm not a boat salesman... I'M NO GOOD AT IT!

[MasterMason]

maybe try starting at a lower start bid, and put a reserve in to meet your needs? that way people might be more interested in starting the bidding process....

[aprgriggs]

maybe try starting at a lower start bid, and put a reserve in to meet your needs? that way people might be more interested in starting the bidding process....

Is it better to start the price low and use a reserve or no reserve with a higher price?

[MasterMason]

I don't know for sure, but the reserve is not public, so you might be able to encourge people to start bidding by using the reserve method... I guess there are 2 trains of thought, which is why they let you do it either way.

[WakePowell]

April,

I am curious why you are selling your boat? Will your dealer take a trade-in towards your new boat? The lower value you get towards a trade-in may be offset by less sales tax you would have to pay like Ric noted.

When I ordered my new boat the dealer did not take any trade-ins. I was successful selling my old boat on eBay and got NADA value for it. You may add to your description a why reason why you are selling the boat. It may help reel in a buyer that is on the fence and nervous about why you are selling such a new boat.

Good luck.

[aprgriggs]

April,

I am curious why you are selling your boat? Will your dealer take a trade-in towards your new boat? The lower value you get towards a trade-in may be offset by less sales tax you would have to pay like Ric noted.

When I ordered my new boat the dealer did not take any trade-ins. I was successful selling my old boat on eBay and got NADA value for it. You may add to your description a why reason why you are selling the boat. It may help reel in a buyer that is on the fence and nervous about why you are selling such a new boat.

Good luck.

I am selling my boat because I am getting a new one. My dealer will do a in-out so I don't have to pay taxes. This way I get a good value for my boat. thanks for yur help.

[mitch]

April, What boat are you getting?

[aprgriggs]

April, What boat are you getting?

I am getting a X9. i am excited about the change.

Blue metalic flake with white deck and black hull.

[mitch]

Sounds great, very exciting! Are you going w/ the 05 tower? That tower is really growing on me.

[milkmania]

April,
Since I cannot buy your boat.....

you could send me your large pictures, the ones you have, and any new ones you might want to take, and I'd be more than happy to host them on a webpage and send you the links to add to your e-bay ad or any e-mail referrals you might want.

/me has got 2 gig of storage space on a server that I'm paying for and not hardly using it to it's full potential.

I know it's a small gesture, but if it'd help to get LARGE pictures posted, then more power to you:)

I know the new season will be here soon




it could be something as simple as this link....
http://www.writeonrice.com/img/4.jpg (http://www.writeonrice.com/img/4.jpg)

once the picture loads, click on it to enlage it and you'll see a tremendous difference

:steering:

[aprgriggs]

Sounds great, very exciting! Are you going w/ the 05 tower? That tower is really growing on me.

I am getting the 05 tower... I like the idea of not having to fall of the boat to hand a board. :o

[aprgriggs]

April,
Since I cannot buy your boat.....

you could send me your large pictures, the ones you have, and any new ones you might want to take, and I'd be more than happy to host them on a webpage and send you the links to add to your e-bay ad or any e-mail referrals you might want.

/me has got 2 gig of storage space on a server that I'm paying for and not hardly using it to it's full potential.

I know it's a small gesture, but if it'd help to get LARGE pictures posted, then more power to you:)

I know the new season will be here soon




it could be something as simple as this link....
http://www.writeonrice.com/img/4.jpg (http://www.writeonrice.com/img/4.jpg)

once the picture loads, click on it to enlage it and you'll see a tremendous difference

:steering:

sent you a PM...thanks

[WakeSeeky]

Have you asked your dealer if you can keep the boat at his shop? Assuming you're not using it, of course. We did this, but unfortunately didn't get the boat to the dealer until late October, only a couple of weeks before the new boat arrived, so we ended up trading the old boat in anyway.

Still, the idea was that someone walks in, gets sticker shock on a new boat, and the dealer just happens to have sitting in the back... etc. No different, really, than what the dealer will go through if you trade it in. Obviously this depends on your dealer & whether or not he's got room for your boat. Ours didn't until the season was essentially over, but it might work better in the spring.

Anyway, good luck with your sale!

[Leroy]

aprgriggs; Even though you are in warm location, doesn't look like it isn't quite boat season on Ebay yet. Still of the 12 mastercrafts on there only the cheapest 3 have good bidding action. All old 190's. I don't think the used market gets really active until the weather is close to skiing.

[Ric]

Have you asked your dealer if you can keep the boat at his shop? Assuming you're not using it, of course. We did this, but unfortunately didn't get the boat to the dealer until late October, only a couple of weeks before the new boat arrived, so we ended up trading the old boat in anyway.

Still, the idea was that someone walks in, gets sticker shock on a new boat, and the dealer just happens to have sitting in the back... etc. No different, really, than what the dealer will go through if you trade it in. Obviously this depends on your dealer & whether or not he's got room for your boat. Ours didn't until the season was essentially over, but it might work better in the spring.

Anyway, good luck with your sale!

Good idea. I've talked to her dealer before and in fact he'd rather keep your boat there and do exactly as you described. He has a lake out the back door of the place for test drives. Pretty nice setup for walk-ins.

[ski_king]

You also mentioned your father has a car dealership.
It might be a good place to park it out front for a few days. I am sure there is a lot of traffic there. I am sure it will draw some attention. You might find somebody that didn't even know thery were looking for a boat.

[aprgriggs]

Good idea. I've talked to her dealer before and in fact he'd rather keep your boat there and do exactly as you described. He has a lake out the back door of the place for test drives. Pretty nice setup for walk-ins.

Its there. Texas Mastercraft Has my boat, but if they sell it I have to pay them a fee.

[east tx skier]

I'd suggest you throw it back on ebay, but make it a reserve auction and start the bidding really low, say $25,000 or less. This will give you an idea of what its true "winter worth" is to prospective buyers.

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I'd suggest you throw it back on ebay, but make it a reserve auction and start the bidding really low, say $25,000 or less. This will give you an idea of what its true "winter worth" is to prospective buyers.


I agree with this, people get caught up in the bidding and may go for more than you originally wanted. (I've done it).

[east tx skier]

This is an extension of one of my previous "take it for what it's worth" comments. A boat is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, what someone is willing to sell it for, or what someone is not willing to sell it for.

While I know people can get caught up in the bidding, it still amazes me that people bid before the last few minutes of the auction. They're just inviting other bids and, as a result, a higher purchase price. As a seller, I say, let them bid early and often. But as a buyer, I can only presume they like to see their name on the screen.

[Tom Wortham]

This is an extension of one of my previous "take it for what it's worth" comments. A boat is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, what someone is willing to sell it for, or what someone is not willing to sell it for.

While I know people can get caught up in the bidding, it still amazes me that people bid before the last few minutes of the auction. They're just inviting other bids and, as a result, a higher purchase price. As a seller, I say, let them bid early and often. But as a buyer, I can only presume they like to see their name on the screen.

Doug, There is nothing like the art of being a "sniper" on E-Bay. :D

[milkmania]

I couldn't win a tootsie roll tootsie pop if the danged thing was closing at 4:00 am!!!!!:rant:

[milkmania]

this took about 3 minutes tops!
very basic and straight-forward, just to get started and get all the pics in one place...

http://www.writeonrice.com/april.htm

[east tx skier]

Doug, There is nothing like the art of being a "sniper" on E-Bay. :D

Agreed. But logically, if there's no reserve, it's ridiculous to bid until the end of the auction (even if there are no bids). You're just asking to pay more.

All sniping does is prevent a bidder who doesn't trust ebay's proxy bid system from upping the amount of his/her bid at the last minute ("low bid remorse"). If you entered a higher proxy bid than I, sniping will not result in your losing the auction no matter how close to the end I put my bid in.

[Tom Wortham]

Agreed. But logically, if there's no reserve, it's ridiculous to bid until the end of the auction (even if there are no bids). You're just asking to pay more.

All sniping does is prevent a bidder who doesn't trust ebay's proxy bid system from upping the amount of his/her bid at the last minute ("low bid remorse"). If you entered a higher proxy bid than I, sniping will not result in your losing the auction no matter how close to the end I put my bid in.

Agree, But if you win or lose something over $.51 It stays with you a little longer. At least for me.

[east tx skier]

By the time you read this, I will have run far, far away. But I can't help myself. So here it goes. Maybe you should have bid just a little more for it.

/and just like that, I'm gone. :D