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Mag_Red
04-19-2007, 10:14 PM
If you guys thought the thread I did while remodeling the houseboat was bad........wait till you see this one! :D It has always been my life long dream to build my own home. One I designed. I'm acting as the General Contractor on this, but still plan one doing some of the work myself. So if you all don't mind, I will be updating this thread as work progresses. If you do mind.............well tough8p So far I have the construction loan and right now waiting on the building and septic premits. Hopefully by the end of next week we can start digging the hole:dance: Here's the 5 acre plot I have in Northern kentucky where the home will be built.

Mag_Red
04-19-2007, 10:15 PM
here is the exterior elevations............the house is long and narrow to fit the lot

Mag_Red
04-19-2007, 10:16 PM
First floor..............2050 sq ft

Mag_Red
04-19-2007, 10:16 PM
and finished basement.............. 1800 sq ft

trickskier
04-19-2007, 10:20 PM
Good Luck Mag, nothing like a new home that you designed yourself.............Congratualtions!!! I look forward to seeing your progress!

Mag_Red
04-19-2007, 10:22 PM
Good Luck Mag, nothing like a new home that you designed yourself.............Congratualtions!!! I look forward to seeing your progress!we do have little red stakes everywhere from the surveyer, but I didn't want to bore you with those pics;)

Upper Michigan Prostar190
04-19-2007, 10:25 PM
Looks great Mag!!! I claim guest room#1 when I fly down next year for MM4. ;)

trickskier
04-19-2007, 10:26 PM
we do have little red stakes everywhere from the surveyer, but I didn't want to bore you with those pics;)
Nice size home, elevations look real nice.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
04-19-2007, 10:27 PM
we do have little red stakes everywhere from the surveyer, but I didn't want to bore you with those pics;)
WHAT!!!!!!! :eek3: you didnt give us pics of the stakes!!!:( Im bummed!

SkiDog
04-19-2007, 10:29 PM
Mag, if I can help answer any questions, don't hesitate to ask! I've been in the business a lonnnnnng time! Good luck my friend! I hope your marrage is a strong one!:D

trickskier
04-19-2007, 10:29 PM
Is it a split level?

Mag_Red
04-19-2007, 10:34 PM
Is it a split level?Ranch.........Master bedroom on first floor Finished basement with two additional bedrooms. Lot of the custom, empty nester homes are set up this way in Cincinnati

trickskier
04-19-2007, 10:38 PM
Ranch.........Master bedroom on first floor Finished basement with two additional bedrooms. Lot of the custom, empty nester homes are set up this way in Cincinnati
We can't do basements in FL. Dig 3 feet and you hit water.

Mag_Red
04-19-2007, 10:38 PM
Mag, if I can answer any questions, don't hesitate to ask! I've been in this F--------ed up business a long time. Good luck my friend, you're gonna need it!:D I hope your marriage is a strong one!:DGave up that gig a long time ago.;) Been painting custom homes for 20 something years now...........know lots of subs and people that will help me make sure everything is done correctly. PM your number just in case though :cool:

Mag_Red
04-19-2007, 10:40 PM
WHAT!!!!!!! :eek3: you didnt give us pics of the stakes!!!:( Im bummed! I thought you liked chicken8p

Upper Michigan Prostar190
04-19-2007, 10:58 PM
I thought you liked chicken8p
You know it!!!:D

milkmania
04-19-2007, 11:27 PM
leaving Cincinnati???

6ballsisall
04-19-2007, 11:28 PM
Bob, exciting stuff! Hey if you change your mind I've got a place for sale I'd make you a smokin deal on! :rolleyes:

I like the floor plan, all I'll bet knowing your tastes/style it is gonna be one sweet pad.

Can't wait to see it in person!!!

Mag_Red
04-19-2007, 11:34 PM
leaving Cincinnati???Just moving across the river to Northern KY and 20 mnutes closer to Lake Cumberland. :D

east tx skier
04-19-2007, 11:35 PM
Looks great, Bob!

milkmania
04-19-2007, 11:47 PM
Just moving across the river to Northern KY and 20 mnutes closer to Lake Cumberland. :D

just don't put a $150.00 dishnetwork dish over the front entrance:rolleyes:

bcampbe7
04-19-2007, 11:49 PM
Looks great Bob! :cool: :cool:

Ric
04-20-2007, 12:17 AM
I expect a very nice garage sir!


If you guys thought the thread I did while remodeling the houseboat was bad........wait till you see this one! :D It has always been my life long dream to build my own home. One I designed. I'm acting as the General Contractor on this, but still plan one doing some of the work myself. So if you all don't mind, I will be updating this thread as work progresses. If you do mind.............well tough8p So far I have the construction loan and right now waiting on the building and septic premits. Hopefully by the end of next week we can start digging the hole:dance: Here's the 5 acre plot I have in Northern kentucky where the home will be built.

Mag_Red
04-20-2007, 12:21 AM
I expect a very nice garage sir!Extra wide and deep two car garage on the home. I do have plans, and plenty of room for a seperate building that will be at least 45' x 30' deep

Ric
04-20-2007, 12:23 AM
Excellent
Looks like you have a great piece of property there!

tex
04-20-2007, 01:09 AM
Biggest piece of advice I got while building. Have other people walk your house. They will notice stuff you don't. You get so used to looking at it day after day that you will miss major stuff-no matter how good you are.

Leroy
04-20-2007, 03:54 AM
Looks nice Bob, but really large house! ;) You must have several people going to live with you!

I've built twice and will always remember those houses! The land is great to have.

André
04-20-2007, 08:06 AM
Congrats Mag!!! What's the water we see on the right?

Mag_Red
04-20-2007, 08:27 AM
Congrats Mag!!! What's the water we see on the right?
That would be my pond............unfortunately it's not skiable. I could float the houseboat on it though:D I would like to build a floating gazebo someday.

mitch
04-20-2007, 08:34 AM
Bob, Looks great, can;t wait to see the finsihed product. I gc'd my own home and it's a great experience, good luck and take lots of pics!

Mag_Red
04-20-2007, 08:45 AM
Bob, Looks great, can;t wait to see the finsihed product. I gc'd my own home and it's a great experience, good luck and take lots of pics!Thanks Mitch. As far as taking lots of pic......no worries.:D Probably the most daunting task is picking out all the finishes...brick, stone, trim, casing, door styles, cabinets, tops, fixtures, etc. One of the designers for the homes we paint is going to help me with this in exchange for some painting at her home. I plan on getting a few subs to do some cash work to save some $$$

jlf
04-20-2007, 08:53 AM
Mag this is awesome. Have fun!! Looking forward to seeing it progress. The syle of the house is similar to ours so I love it, although your's it a lot bigger!! You got plans we should know about?:D

djhuff
04-20-2007, 08:56 AM
I am actually in process as well right now. Designed it myself (even had some fellow wakeboard buddies engineer it and work with DENR so I can be close to the pond behind me). Had to design it myself so I could have a garage long enough for my Excursion and X2 to be hooked up and ready to go inside it. 44' deep (mwaaahaaaahaaaa).

I think I am one of the luckiest men alive, my wife trusts me to make ALL decisions regarding finishes, and guess what... they're all picked before I have started.

Mag, good luck and feel free to PM me as well with questions. I've also been in this for a while.

Mag_Red
04-20-2007, 09:07 AM
Mag this is awesome. Have fun!! Looking forward to seeing it progress. The syle of the house is similar to ours so I love it, although your's it a lot bigger!! You got plans we should know about?:DNo plans. Do you really think it's that big?? Its a shack compared to the homes I paint. I just always wanted a home that the entire family could come to, and that includes Aunts, Uncles, their kids, and their kid's kids. When all the Sicilians get together it's quite a clan........or should I say Mob?;)

Mag_Red
04-20-2007, 09:08 AM
I am actually in process as well right now. Designed it myself (even had some fellow wakeboard buddies engineer it and work with DENR so I can be close to the pond behind me). Had to design it myself so I could have a garage long enough for my Excursion and X2 to be hooked up and ready to go inside it. 44' deep (mwaaahaaaahaaaa).

I think I am one of the luckiest men alive, my wife trusts me to make ALL decisions regarding finishes, and guess what... they're all picked before I have started.

Mag, good luck and feel free to PM me as well with questions. I've also been in this for a while.Thanks DJ! I will probably be taking up all on the offers for advice:headbang:

jlf
04-20-2007, 09:38 AM
No plans. Do you really think it's that big?? Its a shack compared to the homes I paint. I just always wanted a home that the entire family could come to, and that includes Aunts, Uncles, their kids, and their kid's kids. When all the Sicilians get together it's quite a clan........or should I say Mob?;)
Okay it's big compared to mine, ours is 1900 sqare foot main level with 1900 square foot basement, at the moment we only have half the basement finished off and it's just Lance and I. We have 4 bedrooms and 2 bath now and are adding one bath and one bedroom downstairs. I already hate cleaning it and it's way too big for the two of us. We build with the plans of adding to our family and growing into the house. To each there own, what is big to me may be just perfect for you. We are kicking aound the idea of selling and building again and if we do we will build smaller with a bigger garage of course!!

I think the home is going to be beautiful and remember you live in an area that is wealthier than the area I live in so the homes are going to be bigger by you.

Mag_Red
04-20-2007, 09:44 AM
Well you know how everything I do seems to get out of hand........Mag Mania comes to mind:D Starts off as a small get together, and now it has a life of it's own. I suspect the same thing at the new home. Maybe I could put a small cable pull on the pond and have a Mag Mania Landlocked Edition;)

Mag_Red
04-20-2007, 09:49 AM
Here's a preview of what the Kitchen/ Greatroom should look like when finished;)

jlf
04-20-2007, 09:53 AM
Beautiful, I love it. I am surprised, it doens't look like a batchelor pad. Can't wait to see the rest.

P-hat_in_Cincy
04-20-2007, 10:00 AM
Congrats on chasing a dream of yours!

We almost did the same. Had +7 acres on the KY side looking at New Richmond. It was going to be a hillside home and construction costs were going to be too large, so we sold.

Congrats again! Whereabouts in NKY...if you don't mind me asking.

Paul

Mag_Red
04-20-2007, 10:26 AM
Congrats on chasing a dream of yours!

We almost did the same. Had +7 acres on the KY side looking at New Richmond. It was going to be a hillside home and construction costs were going to be too large, so we sold.

Congrats again! Whereabouts in NKY...if you don't mind me asking.

PaulI had the same problem with costs. That's the main reason the additional bedrooms are in the lower level. I had a 900 sq ft second floor with three bedrooms, one of them over the garage. When the lumber and framingand HVAC bids came in, they were out of my range. Especially as I didn't really need the rooms....just my soon to be college age daughter and me. When I took the second floor off, the cost savings were impressive! Dropped the cost over $60,000!! The mailing address is Petersburg Ky, but to put it into perspective, if you stood on the deck of the Argoscy Casino, looked directly across the river into KY, my property would be directly 1.5 miles away. It's 1.5 miles off the first exit of I-275 when you cross from Indiana into Kentucky.

P-hat_in_Cincy
04-20-2007, 10:30 AM
I know exactly where you are talking. There was a house of interest to us there before we built our own.

Geo-thermal HVAC? Higher cost up front but good saving down the road.

I remember calling the building supr. and hearing the nail guns in the background got me pumped!

Good luck Mag and keep us posted.

WAT8415
04-20-2007, 10:35 AM
Have fun with that project Mag, my father is building a house right now and I have been helping out when I can. I will be checking this thread out for the progress.

Mag_Red
04-20-2007, 11:03 AM
I know exactly where you are talking. There was a house of interest to us there before we built our own.

Geo-thermal HVAC? Higher cost up front but good saving down the road.

I remember calling the building supr. and hearing the nail guns in the background got me pumped!

Good luck Mag and keep us posted.Definately looking into that. With the pond, the cost would be very low. Talking to a few contrators already;)

Rockman
04-20-2007, 11:05 AM
Mags, Congrats and Good Luck!

Golfhacker has the crew on call so anything you need in terms of concrete, he's a call away...I do think he got the trucks approved for highway this year :D

Sassy and I can come down and help with the framing and anything else you may need. You have our numbers...;)

Keep us posted on the progress and anything you need.

jrcarte78
04-20-2007, 11:30 AM
That's awesome Mag! Congratulations! I've never built a home but I bet it's an exciting process. I'll definitely follow this thread for updates. Good luck!

sassydog
04-20-2007, 11:36 AM
Looks awesome mags!! let me know if you need a hand framing or trimming. I'd be happy to take a week down there to help out, provided i work isn't insanely busy. You bring the beer, i'll bring my mad carpentry skills!!

Mag_Red
04-20-2007, 12:12 PM
Looks awesome mags!! let me know if you need a hand framing or trimming. I'd be happy to take a week down there to help out, provided i work isn't insanely busy. You bring the beer, i'll bring my mad carpentry skills!!Come to mention it...........I could use a good trim carpenter;) I'll let you know dawg

milkmania
04-20-2007, 02:09 PM
[quote=Rockman]I do think he got the trucks approved for highway this year :D
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Sodar
04-20-2007, 02:14 PM
Too Cool Mag! That looks like an awesome chunk of property! Is that water on the right side of that picture, navigable?

Rockman
04-20-2007, 02:14 PM
[quote=Rockman]I do think he got the trucks approved for highway this year :D
[/quote

Minor problem with the DOT #s last year...Smokey was understanding :rolleyes: .

milkmania
04-20-2007, 02:24 PM
[quote=milkmania]

Minor problem with the DOT #s last year...Smokey was understanding :rolleyes: .


oh

I was thinking bubble gum & bailing wire8p





like they do in Oklahoma:o

stevo137
04-21-2007, 09:31 AM
Mag,

I'm very happy to see this for you my friend! :)

Looks like a great piece of land and closer to Cumberland! AWESOME!

I am really enjoying seeing all of your years of hard work rewarding you...

S

BriEOD
04-21-2007, 09:39 AM
Booby,

Good luck my friend. I've helped a on small things during a few of my friends projects and it is quite an ordeal.

Mag_Red
06-05-2007, 03:42 PM
Been about a month and a half and finally seeing some small progress. Still waiting on Kentucky to approve the septic permit. May be another 3 weeks before we have it:rolleyes: and then the real fun begins!:firejump: We have, however, starting cutting in the driveway. Nice to finally see a piece of equipment on the site!

Mag_Red
06-05-2007, 03:47 PM
Man! that is lot of top soil! Here's the basic driveway design..."I don't need no stinkin' straight driveway!:D

Mag_Red
06-05-2007, 03:48 PM
a shot from the top...............

Mag_Red
06-05-2007, 03:49 PM
why not take some trees out while we are at it......................

betsy&david Harrison
06-05-2007, 04:34 PM
Wow! Such beautiful country you live in. I am very envious.

Mag_Red
06-05-2007, 04:41 PM
And you wouldn't believe the price per acre.;)

betsy&david Harrison
06-05-2007, 04:46 PM
And you wouldn't believe the price per acre.;)
I'm sure I would cry if I found out!

#47of100TeamMC
06-05-2007, 04:52 PM
And you wouldn't believe the price per acre.;)

Spare us that detail... I don't think I want to hear what you paid vs what I paid for some property. Congrats though... IT's a fun process!

Sodar
06-05-2007, 05:21 PM
Lookin' Good Bob!! Love that there construction.. its fun!! :)

6ballsisall
06-05-2007, 05:27 PM
Very exciting Bob! I have to say though, those are good pics but they don't do justice to the beauty of the area you are building in. All you peeps need to see it in person, it's breathtaking the views of the river and the rolling hills.

djhuff
06-06-2007, 08:46 AM
I would love to say that I have started my project, however the NCDENR Division of Water Quality has other ideas... Friggin 3 months to review my impact of about 400 square feet of a Zone 2 buffer. now I find out the application has been approved, but been sitting on someone's desk for 2 weeks awaiting a signature. Maddening I tell you.

Workin' 4 Toys
06-06-2007, 09:28 AM
Looks good Mag.
I assume you have an abundance of free time you didn't know what to do with yourself to tackle a job like that;) . I had a general do my last two houses, and that is way more time consuming than I would expect.
And the hardest part IMO...Interior decorating...Although it sounds like you have a trade for that in the works. That would help tremendously.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
06-06-2007, 10:45 AM
Looks good Mag.
I assume you have an abundance of free time you didn't know what to do with yourself to tackle a job like that;) . I had a general do my last two houses, and that is way more time consuming than I would expect.
And the hardest part IMO...Interior decorating...Although it sounds like you have a trade for that in the works. That would help tremendously.
he could always ask Racheal to do the interior decorating part for him. :D

Workin' 4 Toys
06-06-2007, 11:15 AM
he could always ask Racheal to do the interior decorating part for him. :D
While you might not expect this, spending a few thousand dollars (per opening) for drapes and/or blinds, one might not chose someone as questionable as this "rachael"...... I don't even know what "Rachael" is let alone if he/she could decorate.... I wouldn't want to take that chance...

Mag_Red
06-08-2007, 07:27 PM
While you might not expect this, spending a few thousand dollars (per opening) for drapes and/or blinds, one might not chose someone as questionable as this "rachael"...... I don't even know what "Rachael" is let alone if he/she could decorate.... I wouldn't want to take that chance...Well it just so happens my older sister makes window treatments for a living, and her little brother just painted her condo for free:D yeah.............I got connections;)

Mag_Red
06-08-2007, 07:34 PM
Didn't have time to stick around for the gravel to arrive on Tuesday because I had to make a quick trip to El Paso for some personal busines;) I did stop out today, to check on things and guess what I see?????? GRAVEL!!!!!!! Ah the progress! Still waiting on that darned septic permit:mad:

trickskier
06-08-2007, 11:06 PM
Progress...............Looks Great Bob!!!..........Looking forward to more pics!!!...................:D

Workin' 4 Toys
06-10-2007, 10:55 PM
Well it just so happens my older sister makes window treatments for a living, and her little brother just painted her condo for free:D yeah.............I got connections;)
Ok, you are good to go. It should only cost a thousand an opening since the labor is free...;)

Mag_Red
08-28-2007, 04:48 PM
:rant: Well after waiting over two months for the State of Kentucky to approve my septic sytem......I finally have the permit!:banana: Started scraping off the top soil yesterday and today the excavator is finally starting to dig the damned hole!!!!! He should be finished today, then tomorrow the Hoe comes in and digs the frost footers. Did I mention that I now have a walk out basement????? Yep....after we started digging, it seems the lot sloped more than I imagined, so now the rear and the left side of the house has a walk out basement. Works out even better than we planned!

Mag_Red
08-28-2007, 04:50 PM
One more view from ground level...................

KnoxX2
08-28-2007, 05:05 PM
Can't wait to see the finished house!!!!

trickskier
08-28-2007, 05:08 PM
Looking GOOD there Bob...............Permit Office's are such a Major PAIN............But then again look who you're dealing with...............The government...............:rolleyes:

KnoxX2
08-28-2007, 05:10 PM
But then again look who you're dealing with...............The government...............:rolleyes:


Easy Now big guy :D

Mag_Red
08-28-2007, 05:10 PM
Yeah I'm pretty pumped right now! Should have the foundations walls by the end of the week. Start framing next week.:banana:

Sodar
08-28-2007, 05:19 PM
I have the building department more than ANYTHING in the world! Everytime I go there, I have to prepare myself to allow myself to turn into a rag doll, because those guys love to bend you over, twist you around and chuck you through hoops! All I can say is that an expediter is worth they wait in gold!!

trickskier
08-28-2007, 05:22 PM
Yeah I'm pretty pumped right now! Should have the foundations walls by the end of the week. Start framing next week.:banana:
Should be in by Christmas???

Sodar
08-28-2007, 05:27 PM
Should be in by Christmas???

Dang, show me a contractor that can get a house up in 4 months!! I will hire him tomorrow! :D

WAT8415
08-28-2007, 05:30 PM
Exciting times Mag, I know my father was delayed getting his permit because he had to get an Archeologist after he had to wait 3 months for the septic permit, because they found out it might be an Indian burial site, that took another 60 days and $2300 for the county to inspect the ground. It must feel nice to finally get moving. Can't wait to see more pics.

Ric
08-28-2007, 05:45 PM
This is a great thread. Keep the pics coming Mag!

gew
08-28-2007, 05:46 PM
Good Luck and God Speed! you will need both. I acted as the General Contractor for my Log house (5,500sq. ft.) Log Homes are a bit differerent and I was under building codes. If you are under building codes get them to tell you how they would like it. They hold all the cards. If you have any questions feel free to ask. It looks like you have it under control, you should be fine. Again, good luck!

SkiDog
08-28-2007, 06:26 PM
Building inspectors are little people with BIG authority!:( :mad: :rolleyes: But, NEVER, NEVER make one mad at you! Then you really gots troubles!

sassydog
08-28-2007, 06:32 PM
hey mags!!! great timing! My crew and i are just about to join the unemployment line as result of a brutally poor market, need any carpenters for that new house of yours? hahaha!!!!! get your duct tape handy, you're gonna need it in a few weeks for MM3

Mag_Red
08-28-2007, 06:33 PM
Dang, show me a contractor that can get a house up in 4 months!! I will hire him tomorrow! :DShoot! The GC we paint homes for averages 12-16 weeks. And we are talking 4000 sqft homes.

Sodar
08-28-2007, 06:33 PM
Building inspectors are little people with BIG authority!:( :mad: :rolleyes: But, NEVER, NEVER make one mad at you! Then you really gots troubles!

Well, there is a clinical disease for this. It is commonly called Little Dick Syndrome (LDS). 8p

Sodar
08-28-2007, 06:36 PM
Shoot! The GC we paint homes for averages 12-16 weeks. And we are talking 4000 sqft homes.

Are we talking Custom Home Builder or Tract Home Builder? I am guessing yours is a custom home and I have never seen a custom home built in 12-16 weeks...

Ric
08-28-2007, 06:53 PM
how long will the painters need before you can move in mags? ;)

BrianM
08-28-2007, 07:50 PM
Shoot! The GC we paint homes for averages 12-16 weeks. And we are talking 4000 sqft homes.

WOW!! That is fast. Around here typical custom homes of say 2500-3500 feet take about 8-12 months. The production type builders can throw one up in 6 but that is flying. When I get started on mine next spring if I can keep construction time to 9 months I will be a very happy camper.

Mag_Red
08-28-2007, 10:53 PM
Are we talking Custom Home Builder or Tract Home Builder? I am guessing yours is a custom home and I have never seen a custom home built in 12-16 weeks...SEmi Custom homes man! This ain't Kal-le-fornia8p

Mag_Red
08-28-2007, 10:55 PM
how long will the painters need before you can move in mags? ;)If it's my guys, about 2 weeks total.......but I may try and find some less expensive guys to do the work:D

Mag_Red
08-28-2007, 10:58 PM
Stopped out this evening and the digging was completed.......just need to dig the frost footers now. It's looking pretty good! Tomorrow I meet with the Foundation guy......me thinks he needs to adjust that price down now that we are not forming up 9' walls all around.;)

6ballsisall
08-29-2007, 12:20 AM
Congrats Bob! Glad to hear progress is being made!

Ric
08-29-2007, 09:25 AM
I dont know what a frost footer is, but keep the pics coming

jlf
08-29-2007, 10:25 AM
Now the fun begins!! Best of LUCK!! I don't ever want to build another new home again.

atlfootr
08-29-2007, 10:29 AM
Congrats, ... anyone looking to relocate to Sunny Florida give me a pm!
I've got a 1 acre lot (prime location) FOR SALE on the water to unload for a skier's dream house.

Mag_Red
08-29-2007, 09:31 PM
I dont know what a frost footer is, but keep the pics comingFiguring where you live I have no doubt you don't know what it is. Where the ground freezes, you need to put the footer, ie what supports your home, low enough in the ground so that it doesn't move when the ground freezes. Because this home's Basement will now be ground level, we need to dig a hole 36" deep to support the basement slab. Hope this picture helps.:wavey: We should get the footer inspection tomorrow morning, and be pouring cement as long as it passes.:headbang:

BriEOD
08-29-2007, 09:33 PM
Looks good Bob.

JimN
08-29-2007, 09:41 PM
I don't know if it's just the way the land looks on my monitor but does the lot slope down, from the area just in front of the camera to where you show that the house will be?

Didn't anybody tell you that you need to build on high ground?


Personally, I don't think you'll ever be happy there. I'll do you a favor by taking the lot off of your hands for $500.

Mag_Red
08-29-2007, 11:33 PM
I don't know if it's just the way the land looks on my monitor but does the lot slope down, from the area just in front of the camera to where you show that the house will be?

Didn't anybody tell you that you need to build on high ground?


Personally, I don't think you'll ever be happy there. I'll do you a favor by taking the lot off of your hands for $500.Jim, I was standing on pile of top soil about 10 feet high:D

Mag_Red
08-30-2007, 06:01 PM
Look what I saw when I showed up today.......................The crane!

Mag_Red
08-30-2007, 06:02 PM
Looks like they got a good start on the footers

Mag_Red
08-30-2007, 06:03 PM
The crew at work.................house seens to be getting smaller all the time

Ric
08-30-2007, 06:06 PM
so those lines of concrete I see are the footers? so they go down 36" below the level of the slab at each level , do I have that right?

Ric
08-30-2007, 06:07 PM
Look what I saw when I showed up today.......................The crane! I am anxious to see this place finished!

Ric
08-30-2007, 06:11 PM
so those lines of concrete I see are the footers? so they go down 36" below the level of the slab at each level , do I have that right?
nevermind I see the trenching in the earlier pics. that's all new to me being a flatlander on the globally warm, third coast. I tellya what I don't see mag, is any rebar in the footers :eek:

Ric
08-30-2007, 06:12 PM
Jim, I was standing on pile of top soil about 10 feet high:D ya gotcher dirt pile over there, your scrap pile over there... animals I tellya, work animals! The whole thing should be done in about 2 weeks

Sodar
08-30-2007, 06:18 PM
nevermind I see the trenching in the earlier pics. that's all new to me being a flatlander on the globally warm, third coast. I tellya what I don't see mag, is any rebar in the footers :eek:

I still do not see any trenches that are 3' deep!! :confused:

There are some #5 bars laying next to the formwork. I am sure he got some in there! :)

Mag_Red
08-30-2007, 06:59 PM
I still do not see any trenches that are 3' deep!! :confused:

There are some #5 bars laying next to the formwork. I am sure he got some in there! :) There's rebar in there, I made sure;) Here's a close up of the trench for the frost footers Ric:D

Mag_Red
08-30-2007, 07:00 PM
I am anxious to see this place finished!Me too!:D Hope you have as much patience as I do;)

Upper Michigan Prostar190
08-30-2007, 08:11 PM
ya gotcher dirt pile over there, your scrap pile over there... animals I tellya, work animals! The whole thing should be done in about 2 weeks
HEY YOU MUST BE MR. FIELDING!!!

Your name came up in a drawing!

WE WORK TODAY!!!!!

:cool: :D

Great scene! I love that movie!

WORK ANIMALS!!!!

Mag_Red
08-30-2007, 09:18 PM
Help me out UMP............................What movie is that from???? How you all remember lines from movie is beyond me.:confused:

Upper Michigan Prostar190
08-30-2007, 09:40 PM
Help me out UMP............................What movie is that from???? How you all remember lines from movie is beyond me.:confused:
Its from "The Money Pit"

Tom Hanks, Shelly Long. Hilarious movie!

KnoxX2
08-30-2007, 09:53 PM
Mag things are looking good!!!!

I love that movie!!!!!!!!!!

Workin' 4 Toys
08-31-2007, 09:48 AM
And which part is the garage, that's all we really care about......:D

And which spot does the new Z06 get??:cool:

Seriously, where's the garage? Point it out so we know which spot to keep an eye on when you post pictures.:D

Upper Michigan Prostar190
08-31-2007, 11:13 AM
And which part is the garage, that's all we really care about......:D

And which spot does the new Z06 get??:cool:

Seriously, where's the garage? Point it out so we know which spot to keep an eye on when you post pictures.:D
WFT, dont worry, I am sure Ric has the whole garage issue mapped out already.;) He can scoop you in on that.

Ric
08-31-2007, 12:16 PM
Help me out UMP............................What movie is that from???? How you all remember lines from movie is beyond me.:confused: so "uhh how long you think this job will take?" -- "2 weeks!" "so when can you get started?" -- "as soon as the check clears!"

Upper Michigan Prostar190
08-31-2007, 12:31 PM
work Animals!!!!

Mag_Red
08-31-2007, 02:19 PM
Forms are up and ready to pour right about now:eek: ......I need to get back out there:D

Mag_Red
08-31-2007, 02:20 PM
one more..............

Ric
08-31-2007, 04:53 PM
These guys DO NOT mess around!

Upper Michigan Prostar190
08-31-2007, 05:18 PM
These guys DO NOT mess around!
They are WORK ANIMALS!!!!

Sodar
08-31-2007, 05:21 PM
Looking Awesome Bob!! Those guys are ON it!! JEEZ!!

Are those pre-fabricated forms?

When you say semi-custom... does that mean that the builder has an established footprint and you can vary the floorplan, make fascade changes, and other little touches here and there? I am just curious, because all the homes built around here are tract or customs....

Mag_Red
08-31-2007, 05:29 PM
Looking Awesome Bob!! Those guys are ON it!! JEEZ!!

Are those pre-fabricated forms?

When you say semi-custom... does that mean that the builder has an established footprint and you can vary the floorplan, make fascade changes, and other little touches here and there? I am just curious, because all the homes built around here are tract or customs....
The builder we work for builds what I call semi-custom homes. He has about 30 different floor plans some with 5 different elevations. They can customize the inside as much as their budgets can afford. Here is the rear of a house we just completed.....they went a little overboard on the deck:rolleyes:

Mag_Red
08-31-2007, 05:30 PM
Now back to the real project!

Mag_Red
08-31-2007, 05:33 PM
I counted 4 trucks but there might have been 5!

Mag_Red
08-31-2007, 05:36 PM
Last one I promise!:D Forms come off Tuesday. Next week is water proofing exterior foundation, drain tile, gravel, rough in plumbing and pouring the garage and basement slabs. Should start framing a week from Monday:banana:

Sodar
08-31-2007, 05:41 PM
The builder we work for builds what I call semi-custom homes. He has about 30 different floor plans some with 5 different elevations. They can customize the inside as much as their budgets can afford. Here is the rear of a house we just completed.....they went a little overboard on the deck:rolleyes:

Got Ya! That is a lot of floor plans!! That deck is definitely a little much!!

I cannot believe that they will start framing a week from Monday! When my grandparents built their subterrainian garage with house above, they spect 3 months before they started any of the stick work!

Mag_Red
08-31-2007, 05:45 PM
Got Ya! That is a lot of floor plans!! That deck is definitely a little much!!

I cannot believe that they will start framing a week from Monday! When my grandparents built their subterrainian garage with house above, they spect 3 months before they started any of the stick work!we don't......we don't........we don't mess around!:banana: :D

Ric
08-31-2007, 05:54 PM
I counted 4 trucks but there might have been 5! this project looks really affordable......... ;)

Mag_Red
08-31-2007, 06:11 PM
this project looks really affordable......... ;):eek: You saying I might have to sell "Ilene"???

KnoxX2
08-31-2007, 06:27 PM
Not Before MMIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ric
08-31-2007, 06:58 PM
:eek: You saying I might have to sell "Ilene"??? hell with that, just charge rent at mm3 :cool:

Upper Michigan Prostar190
08-31-2007, 07:05 PM
WORK ANIMALS!!!

http://www.tedbarneyhomeinspections.com/Frontpage%20TBHI%20web%20page_files/image006.jpg

Mag_Red
08-31-2007, 07:31 PM
WORK ANIMALS!!!

http://www.tedbarneyhomeinspections.com/Frontpage%20TBHI%20web%20page_files/image006.jpgI think mine is a bit smaller;) House that is:D

BrianM
08-31-2007, 07:53 PM
Very nice. Your crews are definitely moving out on the foundation work.

JimN
08-31-2007, 11:08 PM
UMP- ya like Leslie West (Miountain, West Bruce & Laing)? Remember the guy in The Money Pit who was in a band, had longish hair and a beard, with a gravelly voice? Maybe the pink dress will jog your memory.

suedv
09-01-2007, 12:11 AM
Bob,
This is an interesting thread. I'm really enjoying your pictures. I can't wait to see it when the framing starts. I know everything inside takes a lot of time, but with the framing you really get an idea of what it will look like pretty fast.

What's your soil like there? From the pictures it looks like kind of a redish clay.

Congratulations on the house by the way. :)

fintek9
09-01-2007, 12:57 AM
my input you can never go to overboard on a deck! bigger the better.
looking Nice, real nice Bob.

KnoxX2
09-04-2007, 09:39 PM
Any new Pics Mag?

How is the house comming?

Mag_Red
09-04-2007, 10:15 PM
Any new Pics Mag?

How is the house comming?as a matter of fact.............yes! The forms came off today!:headbang:

Mag_Red
09-04-2007, 10:20 PM
New schedule...........waterproofing the foundation tomorrow. Drain tile and pea gravel on Thursday. May hold off on backfilling the foundation and rough grade till the floor joists are in place. Have to get the steel people on schedule and having the architect draw up some new framing drawing for the walk out basement as this was previously foundation walls.

Leroy
09-04-2007, 10:50 PM
Looking nice Mag! When are you going to pour the water slide down the side of that mountain!

Mag_Red
09-04-2007, 10:52 PM
Looking nice Mag! When are you going to pour the water slide down the side of that mountain!Stay tuned! Might have something to contribute to the "pool" thread;)

KnoxX2
09-05-2007, 08:37 AM
Looks great! I must say a walkout basement is the way to go when you are on a hill.

How close is it to the lake?

diesel10pilot
09-05-2007, 09:28 AM
We built one year ago and put ten foot ceilings in the basement, it makes it feel much more open with the walkout.

Mick

Ric
09-05-2007, 09:36 AM
as a matter of fact.............yes! The forms came off today!:headbang: This is so cool! Thanks for sharing the fun part with us mag

Mag_Red
09-06-2007, 08:10 PM
Looks great! I must say a walkout basement is the way to go when you are on a hill.

How close is it to the lake?Well, as I have a pond out front ( maybe big enough for a smoker:rolleyes: ) I am assuming you mean Lake Cumberland............should shorten my drive to 2 hours 10 minutes:banana:

Mag_Red
09-06-2007, 08:21 PM
Some minor progress...........got the revised prints back with the walk out basement drawn............changes cost $280:rolleyes: Today they layed the drain tile ( actually pipe....not sure why they call it tile???? ) and graveled the tile and the basement. Wish they would have back filled the garage area and graveled it.......but I didn't want to pay to have the equipment brought in an addtional time. Getting new bids on the trusses as they changed slightly and getting new bids on the lumber package...........trying to see who really wants the business. Meet with the plumber Monday and make sure we are one the same page regarding bathroom placement. Thinking about adding a slop sink to the garage beings there is a stack near by for the second floor bath above the garage. Looking into geothermal once again....trying to see if an open loop will work with the pond. ( this will make it very price competitive with conventional gas HVAC.

Mag_Red
09-06-2007, 08:22 PM
one more.........................

Ric
09-07-2007, 11:34 AM
what does the gravel do? round here, we just have a foundation framed out and (Ithink) they lay plastic sheet down prior to plumbing and rebar, then concrete....

tones03
09-07-2007, 11:42 AM
I dont remember gravel when i did cement work, i remember what you said Ric, hmm, im sure they know more then i do.

JimN
09-07-2007, 11:42 AM
They call it tile because it used to be made of terra cotta clay tile pipe, made in two pieces and sealed when it was installed. Pipe is a lot better.

Maristar210
09-07-2007, 12:40 PM
what does the gravel do? round here, we just have a foundation framed out and (Ithink) they lay plastic sheet down prior to plumbing and rebar, then concrete....


Because that's the hilljack way of doing it in "big 'ole Texas"

Up here we woory about the frost line and things of that nature :D

Roonie's
09-07-2007, 01:05 PM
I was wondering about the frost line as the footings looked to be poured on or at grade with a very small footprint. Gravel in the basement is great to have (and code in the NW) as it will keep water hopefully away from the basement slab. I would have put down plastic before gravel. The more drainage under slab the better to keep water away. Hopefully they put the drain tile around the footings on the interior as well (code in NW)?

Ric
09-07-2007, 01:16 PM
They call it tile because it used to be made of terra cotta clay tile pipe, made in two pieces and sealed when it was installed. Pipe is a lot better. jim, you are the official keeper of odd knowledge

Ric
09-07-2007, 01:17 PM
I was wondering about the frost line as the footings looked to be poured on or at grade with a very small footprint. Gravel in the basement is great to have (and code in the NW) as it will keep water hopefully away from the basement slab. I would have put down plastic before gravel. The more drainage under slab the better to keep water away. Hopefully they put the drain tile around the footings on the interior as well (code in NW)? I get it now :o

Mag_Red
09-07-2007, 01:33 PM
I was wondering about the frost line as the footings looked to be poured on or at grade with a very small footprint. Gravel in the basement is great to have (and code in the NW) as it will keep water hopefully away from the basement slab. I would have put down plastic before gravel. The more drainage under slab the better to keep water away. Hopefully they put the drain tile around the footings on the interior as well (code in NW)?The footers are 20" x 8" The area to the rear and the left side of the1st pic will be back filled, so they will be at least 36" below grade. In the area to the front, where it appears the footers are on grade, there is a trench 36" deep ( See pic in post #111 ) to support these footers. Plastic isn't required in Kentucky, but it is in Ohio , due to Radon gas. Or you can run a PVC vent pipe. There should be plastic drain pipe on both sides of the footers.

OhioProstar
09-07-2007, 01:50 PM
Hey Mag,
I don't know if you mentioned this and I am too lazy to go through 15 pages of this thread...but did/are you doing a pre-treatment for termites? It is a lot less expensive to do now and will give you a couple decades of protection, especially since you have a nice wooded lot.

Mag_Red
09-07-2007, 05:51 PM
Hey Mag,
I don't know if you mentioned this and I am too lazy to go through 15 pages of this thread...but did/are you doing a pre-treatment for termites? It is a lot less expensive to do now and will give you a couple decades of protection, especially since you have a nice wooded lot.Talk to me man! What's this pre-treatment all about???:confused:

Ric
09-07-2007, 05:56 PM
You mean you haven't gotten the dip-tet. You gotta do that Mag, you gotta get the dip-tet! Get on it man!

Mag_Red
09-07-2007, 05:57 PM
You mean you haven't gotten the dip-tet. You gotta do that Mag, you gotta get the dip-tet! Get on it man!YOU know about this Ric????? Man you all must have a lot of termites in Texas:eek:

Ric
09-07-2007, 05:58 PM
For the record mag, I have no idea what he's talking about and I think the spartan is trying to sell you a pig in a poke

TX.X-30 fan
09-07-2007, 07:50 PM
You mean you haven't gotten the dip-tet. You gotta do that Mag, you gotta get the dip-tet! Get on it man!



Classic flick, one has to be a little "out of square" to remember the lines though, Ric. ;)

Ric
09-07-2007, 07:54 PM
What now, littlebruddah?

Ric
09-07-2007, 07:56 PM
Classic flick, one has to be a little "out of square" to remember the lines though, Ric. ;) wife was going with me to tucson on a biz trip and I found that on tv and said, sit down, let me show you what the desert looks like and the people we are going to see:D

TX.X-30 fan
09-07-2007, 08:00 PM
wife was going with me to tucson on a biz trip and I found that on tv and said, sit down, let me show you what the desert looks like and the people we are going to see:D




:toast: How far did she get before she :noface: The trip. :D

Ric
09-07-2007, 08:38 PM
"DUCK - BOY!" :purplaugh:

OhioProstar
09-09-2007, 11:58 AM
YOU know about this Ric????? Man you all must have a lot of termites in Texas:eek:
In college I worked for a pest control company for a couple summers. We did a number of termite pre-treatments when the new buildings were close to woods. Basically it puts a barrier around the house in the soil just like you would do if you find termites later, but it costs less to do it now since there is no back fill to deal with and no drilling. If you can get it before the basement floor is poured even better. Just a thought...not trying to sell you anything. But for a few hundred bucks it might be worth calling around.

Mag_Red
09-19-2007, 05:38 PM
Finally some progress to report...........the framing has begun!:banana: They will be done with the basement walls by the end of the day. Hopefully I will have the two steel beams set over the week-end. The lumber package for the first floor is being delivered first thing Monday morning. According to the framer, I should be under roof in two more weeks!!!!!:headbang:

Mag_Red
09-19-2007, 05:40 PM
I can't wait to get some pics, from the first floor, of my view out the back.........should be spectacular!

Sodar
09-19-2007, 05:46 PM
According to the framer, I should be under roof in two more weeks!!!!!:headbang:

That is truly incredible!!



Looks Great Mag!! Any problems while you away at the lake? :confused:

Willski
09-19-2007, 05:47 PM
Cool. Keep posting pics. Interesting to watch the progress. I hope to be posting some garage construction pics soon.

Rockman
09-19-2007, 06:32 PM
Finally some progress to report...........the framing has begun!:banana: They will be done with the basement walls by the end of the day. Hopefully I will have the two steel beams set over the week-end. The lumber package for the first floor is being delivered first thing Monday morning. According to the framer, I should be under roof in two more weeks!!!!!:headbang:

Is that SassyDog writing down the list for McDonalds on the 2x4 in the background? :D

Mag_Red
09-19-2007, 07:28 PM
Is that SassyDog writing down the list for McDonalds on the 2x4 in the background? :DNah.....these guys use the 2x 10's :D

Upper Michigan Prostar190
09-19-2007, 07:31 PM
work Animals!!!!!!!

trickskier
09-19-2007, 08:17 PM
Looking REAL good Bob..........Congratulations!!!

Footin
09-19-2007, 08:21 PM
Hey Bob, will there be a flag pole for the OHIO STATE flag?

O-H......

trickskier
09-19-2007, 08:28 PM
Hey Bob, will there be a flag pole for the OHIO STATE flag?

O-H......
You're TOO late.........After seeing Florida demolish Tn last Saturday, he wants to pull for a winning team so I'm sending him a GATOR FLAG......;) 8p

Footin
09-19-2007, 08:30 PM
You're TOO late.........After seeing Florida demolish Tn last Saturday, he wants to pull for a winning team so I'm sending him a GATOR FLAG......;) 8p

Thats a good idea, he needs something to catch the leaking oil out of his old truck! The Florida flag would be perfect for that.

trickskier
09-19-2007, 08:31 PM
Thats a good idea, he needs something to catch the leaking oil out of his old truck! The Florida flag would be perfect for that.
:uglyhamme :uglyhamme :uglyhamme

Mag_Red
09-19-2007, 09:01 PM
Hey Bob, will there be a flag pole for the OHIO STATE flag?

O-H...... I-O...... :D

Footin
09-19-2007, 09:05 PM
Thank you.

KnoxX2
09-19-2007, 09:30 PM
Hey Footin don't you mean H-O:D

Willski
09-19-2007, 09:57 PM
I think he meant I-L-L

Upper Michigan Prostar190
09-19-2007, 10:15 PM
ALRIGHT! take this college football banter over to the Tazer thread and leave Mag's house alone!!8p ;)

Ric
09-20-2007, 10:18 AM
lookin good mag! keep the pics coming!

sizzler
09-20-2007, 10:52 AM
place looks like its coming on a treat bob.........lucky lucky man.....can only dream of that kind of space over here.....i have a house on a 1/3rd of an acre in a nice town.....very rare.....and expensive

Mag_Red
09-24-2007, 11:27 PM
Here is what happens when you have the steel set, on the side for cash, on a Saturday.................:rolleyes: Found this when I returned from the lake on Sunday afternoon.

Mag_Red
09-24-2007, 11:29 PM
Here is what happens when you raise all holy hell with the steel guy on Monday....................:D

Mag_Red
09-24-2007, 11:31 PM
some more............ The story was the Guys on Saturday said the larger beam didn't fit in the beam pocket in the foundation, and the columns for the longer beam were too short.......neither was true8p

Mag_Red
09-24-2007, 11:33 PM
and more........... took all of two hours to set and weld. The framers will start framing the first floor tomorrow:woohoo:

Willski
09-25-2007, 12:21 PM
Here is what happens when you have the steel set, on the side for cash, on a Saturday.................:rolleyes: Found this when I returned from the lake on Sunday afternoon.

Looks like that is exactly what they did. Set the steel on the side.....of the house!

OhioProstar
09-25-2007, 12:25 PM
Great move going with steel i beams for the basement. It opens up your floor plan a lot and I wish they had done that with my instead of running 2x10's and metal posts every 10 feet.

Mag_Red
09-29-2007, 10:32 PM
Progress has been slow this week due to the Steel not being set over last week-end. Because of delay, the framers weren't able to start till Wednesday.:( And wouldn't you know it..............it rains! For two days! Anyway the framers get started on Friday, and do pretty well for three guys..................

Mag_Red
09-29-2007, 10:33 PM
and by the end of Saturday she's looking pretty good.........

milkmania
09-29-2007, 11:06 PM
and by the end of Saturday she's looking pretty good.........

I was thinking it was going to be taller:(























:uglyhamme

JimN
09-29-2007, 11:28 PM
"I was thinking it was going to be taller"

It's all about size with you, isn't it?

atlfootr
09-30-2007, 03:24 PM
That would be my pond............unfortunately it's not skiable.
I could float the houseboat on it though:D
I would like to build a floating gazebo someday.HEY MAG!
I've got a LAKE LOT I'll sell ya, that way you'll be able to do ALL the above :D

Ric
10-01-2007, 02:02 PM
More Pics Mag!

Mag_Red
10-02-2007, 06:41 PM
HEY MAG!
I've got a LAKE LOT I'll sell ya, that way you'll be able to do ALL the above :Dwhat are ya asking??? I could always use a vacation home!;)

Mag_Red
10-02-2007, 06:44 PM
Boy.....the **** is really hitting the fan now! Literally! Garage floor finally poured and man that did a nice job! Pinned every 2' to the foundation with rebar.....5" slab........4" slope.

Mag_Red
10-02-2007, 06:45 PM
Roof trusses arrived and so did the tanks for the septic system!:firejump:

Mag_Red
10-02-2007, 06:47 PM
I bet this job stinks!:D

Ric
10-02-2007, 06:49 PM
Roof trusses arrived and so did the tanks for the septic system!:firejump: WORK ANIMALS!

milkmania
10-02-2007, 06:49 PM
I bet this job stinks!:D

why so many?

Mag_Red
10-02-2007, 06:49 PM
One last view from the rear of the house.......this lower level is going to rock!

Mag_Red
10-02-2007, 06:52 PM
why so many?Let's see........one is the holding tank.......one is the chlorinator......and one is the pumping what-a-ma-call-it. It's a spray system ...not a leech field

milkmania
10-02-2007, 06:57 PM
Let's see........one is the holding tank.......one is the chlorinator......and one is the pumping what-a-ma-call-it. It's a spray system ...not a leech field

interesting

Leroy
10-02-2007, 07:25 PM
Great job to add slope!

Everything is looking great Mag!

Boy.....the **** is really hitting the fan now! Literally! Garage floor finally poured and man that did a nice job! Pinned every 2' to the foundation with rebar.....5" slab........4" slope.

JimN
10-02-2007, 07:32 PM
Mag- what, no floor drains in the garage?:uglyhammer

Upper Michigan Prostar190
10-02-2007, 07:36 PM
WORK ANIMALS!
you stole my line.

trickskier
10-02-2007, 08:40 PM
Coming along real nice Mag! Congratulations!!!

Mag_Red
10-02-2007, 09:13 PM
Took a ride out this evening.......looks like they finished the home's exterior walls except for the garage. I predict setting trusses by Thurday!

Mag_Red
10-02-2007, 09:43 PM
Mag- what, no floor drains in the garage?:uglyhammerThought about it Jim......but decided against it for enviromental reasons. I will have one in the additional garage when I build it ;)

JimN
10-02-2007, 09:58 PM
The grey water doesn't have to go pooping out onto the land or into the water, you could have a tank that collects it, neutralizes some of the bad stuff and attracts oils and gas (like oil booms) and those can be disposed of properly. The rest of the water can leach into the soil, away from the foundation. Since you have already had the soil perked for septic, this would be similar, just in a different location. If the water was filtered well enough, you could use it for irrigation.

6ballsisall
10-02-2007, 09:59 PM
Looking great Bob!!! Thats got to be exciting stuff for you!!

Mag_Red
10-02-2007, 10:46 PM
Looking great Bob!!! Thats got to be exciting stuff for you!!Thanks Jeff! And a bit nerve racking. Just went through some of the lumber invoices and discovered something interesting to say the least. I am getting the majority of the lumber through XYZ Lumber, but they were at $11,592 for the trusses. Company ABC bid the trusses at $9,500........that's who I went with, in fact they were delivered today. When this started I told XYZ to deliver the basement framing package, and a couple of days later I call to get the first floor lumber package delivered. I just found an invoice for trusses from XYZ!:eek: Apparently they assumed they were getting the truss package too! I never told them to start making them...this should be interesting:rolleyes:

6ballsisall
10-02-2007, 10:52 PM
Thanks Jeff! And a bit nerve racking. Just went through some of the lumber invoices and discovered something interesting to say the least. I am getting the majority of the lumber through XYZ Lumber, but they were at $11,592 for the trusses. Company ABC bid the trusses at $9,500........that's who I went with, in fact they were delivered today. When this started I told XYZ to deliver the basement framing package, and a couple of days later I call to get the first floor lumber package delivered. I just found an invoice for trusses from XYZ!:eek: Apparently they assumed they were getting the truss package too! I never told them to start making them...this should be interesting:rolleyes:


Well that could be considered an "assumptive close" :rolleyes: :D

RK@UST
10-02-2007, 10:57 PM
Thanks Jeff! And a bit nerve racking. Just went through some of the lumber invoices and discovered something interesting to say the least. I am getting the majority of the lumber through XYZ Lumber, but they were at $11,592 for the trusses. Company ABC bid the trusses at $9,500........that's who I went with, in fact they were delivered today. When this started I told XYZ to deliver the basement framing package, and a couple of days later I call to get the first floor lumber package delivered. I just found an invoice for trusses from XYZ!:eek: Apparently they assumed they were getting the truss package too! I never told them to start making them...this should be interesting:rolleyes:
Mag, I can tell you this for sure.
I am in the lumber business, and we are at 15 year lows on lumber right now.
The housing thing is absolutely going to drive prices lower and lower until we get some curtailment in production.
Somehow , it never seems to make it to the retail ,or builder end though.

Mag_Red
10-02-2007, 11:03 PM
Mag, I can tell you this for sure.
I am in the lumber business, and we are at 15 year lows on lumber right now.
The housing thing is absolutely going to drive prices lower and lower until we get some curtailment in production.
Somehow , it never seems to make it to the retail ,or builder end though.Well with you being in the buisiness...have you ever heard of someone starting trusses with out absolute comfirmation of getting the order???

Upper Michigan Prostar190
10-02-2007, 11:29 PM
Well with you being in the buisiness...have you ever heard of someone starting trusses with out absolute comfirmation of getting the order???
only when they are WORK ANIMALS!!!!

RK@UST
10-02-2007, 11:39 PM
Well with you being in the buisiness...have you ever heard of someone starting trusses with out absolute comfirmation of getting the order???
Don't know the truss business, but can't imagine anyone in any business doing that. They need to get someone else to build another house just like yours so they can use them !!!:rolleyes:
My point is, get a good deal on your lumber or any lumber related items.
It's cheap right now . Real.
Good luck, building is fun but a job. Looks like a great spot and house.

Mag_Red
10-03-2007, 09:39 PM
Still moving right along. Spent most of the day out there ( I bet the framers hated that, but they were nice enough to speak English most the time.......except sometimes they'd rattle off some Spanish, look at me, and laugh :rolleyes: )

Mag_Red
10-03-2007, 09:41 PM
while there I made some changes to the ( what was the utility room in the lower level ) window openings. I'm really trying to get this as right as I can before the windows get installed and the brick goes up.

Mag_Red
10-03-2007, 09:42 PM
A pic from the rear.................

Farmer Ted
10-03-2007, 10:13 PM
looks good Mag, really going up quick

kycat2007
10-03-2007, 10:37 PM
I second that it is looking really good.

JohnE
10-03-2007, 10:44 PM
while there I made some changes to the ( what was the utility room in the lower level ) window openings. I'm really trying to get this as right as I can before the windows get installed and the brick goes up.

Mag, not to sound like a d!ck, but everyone in the trades hates when changes are made "after the fact". I know you are in the trades too.

I realize windows don't matter much yet, but think about how future changes affect anyone else. I can't tell you how many times a perceived slight cabinet change has amounted to a big deal to my wiring a kitchen. And the customer always loses.

I know you know what you are doing, just a friendly heads up/ reminder.:)

When I built in '95 I let the foundation guy talk me into relocating a walkout door location in the basement..........Then realized it coincided with a future chimney and had to cut the foundation for the original location of the door.

Just some thoughts.

JimN
10-03-2007, 10:49 PM
Mag- why is the small, vertical opening not centered on the rear, under the large window opening?

Is that big opening for the projection screen, so you can watch movies when you're in the back yard or are you going to install a big screen and face it outside?

JimN
10-03-2007, 10:50 PM
Kind of like this, but facing out:

Mag_Red
10-03-2007, 11:13 PM
Mag- why is the small, vertical opening not centered on the rear, under the large window opening?

Is that big opening for the projection screen, so you can watch movies when you're in the back yard or are you going to install a big screen and face it outside? If you look on the blue prints towards the front of this thread, you will notice that is where the lower level bar area is located. Since this turned into a walk-out, I thought it would be nice to have a window there to hand drinks to my guest;) I know it's not centered, but there is a deck running along that side of the house , so I don't think it will be that obvious.

Mag_Red
10-03-2007, 11:15 PM
Kind of like this, but facing out:Actually the screen for the media room is directly against the wall that is oposite the big opening on the far right of the picture;)

Mag_Red
10-03-2007, 11:18 PM
Mag, not to sound like a d!ck, but everyone in the trades hates when changes are made "after the fact". I know you are in the trades too.

I realize windows don't matter much yet, but think about how future changes affect anyone else. I can't tell you how many times a perceived slight cabinet change has amounted to a big deal to my wiring a kitchen. And the customer always loses.

I know you know what you are doing, just a friendly heads up/ reminder.:)

When I built in '95 I let the foundation guy talk me into relocating a walkout door location in the basement..........Then realized it coincided with a future chimney and had to cut the foundation for the original location of the door.

Just some thoughts.I figured "after the fact" would be after the brick was installed. I would much rather move an opening at the framing stage than later in the game. John, I may be sending you a PDF file of the prints and take you up on your offer made earlier;)

JohnE
10-03-2007, 11:36 PM
I figured "after the fact" would be after the brick was installed. I would much rather move an opening at the framing stage than later in the game. John, I may be sending you a PDF file of the prints and take you up on your offer made earlier;)

I'd love to see the file. I'll have some suggestions to go along with everyone else's here. :)

There are no "wrong" decisions, it's just deciding what works for you.

Maybe someday I can be on the outside of that off centered window getting a drink handed to me while watching the Sox or the Pats on the projection screen! Hope JimN is getting you set up with that! JK.;)

Upper Michigan Prostar190
10-03-2007, 11:37 PM
Still moving right along. Spent most of the day out there ( I bet the framers hated that, but they were nice enough to speak English most the time.......except sometimes they'd rattle off some Spanish, look at me, and laugh :rolleyes: )
That blue thing inthe picture looks like Hoosier Bob's house. 8p ;) :D

JohnE
10-03-2007, 11:49 PM
That blue thing inthe picture looks like Hoosier Bob's house. 8p ;) :D

Only bigger, right?

Mag_Red
10-03-2007, 11:52 PM
Only bigger, right?Nope, I've been to his house........that's about the size of it:D

JohnE
10-04-2007, 12:05 AM
Nope, I've been to his house........that's about the size of it:D

I meant the blue house in the picture is bigger than Bob's.:o

Mag_Red
10-09-2007, 09:14 PM
Finally some more progress to report..................

Mag_Red
10-09-2007, 09:15 PM
Man this is starting to take shape..................

Mag_Red
10-09-2007, 09:16 PM
The roof overhangs a big side deck..............

Mag_Red
10-09-2007, 09:17 PM
Last one as I was heading up the driveway.............

Leroy
10-09-2007, 11:26 PM
That is one big house Mag! How many moving in there :)

Nice looking trusses! It really is great when you can walk around your house for the first time.

milkmania
10-09-2007, 11:37 PM
That is one big house Mag! How many moving in there :)

Nice looking trusses! It really is great when you can walk around your house for the first time.

wait until you spend your first Christmas in your new home with your new bride


Congrats Mag!:headbang:

Monte
10-10-2007, 09:32 AM
Looks good Mag... I bet the view from the back is something to see..

wgwollet
10-10-2007, 10:54 AM
Wow....you got balls to build in Ohio in this bad housing market.

Willski
10-10-2007, 11:08 AM
Lookin good..