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milkmania
01-04-2005, 01:53 PM
We got a thread didicated to our boats and garages, let's start one on our Tow Vehicles...

Seems like I saw a Hummerģ in here once around the garage thread.



here's mine: 1993 K-2500 Suburban
nothing fancy, HD 3/4 ton, 350, 4L80E, 4.11 positrac
http://home.alltel.net/bhammon/K-2500.jpg

it could pull an elephant's teeth out through it's butt!!!!

the reason it's not fancy??? = it's paid for:steering:

got a later model K-1500 Suburban for the family rig.

when we go to the lake, it's a toss up for which one pulls the 30' travel trailer

east tx skier
01-04-2005, 02:44 PM
Is there a difference between the new H2s and a Suburban? I thought they were basically the same car underneath the shell? I've got an 01 Expedition that gets the job done. But those Suburbans can tow the snot out of pretty much anything.

bcampbe7
01-04-2005, 02:48 PM
The H2 is not nearly as long as a Suburban. Maybe more like a Yukon or Tahoe (non-XL).

east tx skier
01-04-2005, 03:30 PM
It's apparently based on a Suburban 1500/2500 frame, but modified.

http://www.truckworld.com/Sport-Utility/02-H2_preview/02-H2.html

CoFooter
01-04-2005, 04:23 PM
2001 Ford F-250 Superduty 4WD, Super Cab, Lariat, Diesel. White. Only tow vehicle I have ever owned where you literally cannot feel the boat behind it - even on steep grades. It's got torque to spare and 14 MPG cruising at 75.

River Rat
01-04-2005, 04:37 PM
3/4 ton 4x4 with a 454 108,000 mi and counting, this is my 4th Surburban but not my last.

Mag_Red
01-04-2005, 05:00 PM
She ain't much, but she can GET-R-DONE! 99 1/2 ton Silverado 4x4 with the 4.8 L 108,000 miles and counting.
http://www.tmcowners.com/photopost/data/500/277Truck_and_boat-med.jpg

bradamerry
01-04-2005, 05:38 PM
Let me get a Ford on this thread!

milkmania
01-04-2005, 05:46 PM
231,241 miles on my Suburban:headbang:


gotta double that before I get rid of it

milkmania
01-04-2005, 05:49 PM
It's apparently based on a Suburban 1500/2500 frame, but modified.

http://www.truckworld.com/Sport-Utility/02-H2_preview/02-H2.html
this seem odd...
Towing capacity: 7,000 lbs. (4WD 1500 Suburban: 8,600)

milkmania
01-04-2005, 05:52 PM
3/4 ton 4x4 with a 454 108,000 mi and counting, this is my 4th Surburban but not my last.

I know what you mean.....
the neighbors thought I was odd, when they saw three Suburbans sitting in the driveway. Sold the wife's C1500 finally back down to two.

It's hard to drive anything else now.

Ric
01-04-2005, 05:56 PM
I currently tow with a 1500hd 4x4 / 6.0L Gas, which really really get's the job done!
Looking at the new half ton crew (which has a bit shorter bed on it) BUT it only comes with 5.3 Gas motor and 3.42 axle ratio..... ?? Seems like it would not be nearly as strong as my 6.0 3.73 setup? Anybody have one?

MarkP
01-04-2005, 05:59 PM
About time.. Is that an 04? Does it feel like its goin to do a good job for you. Iím thinking about a 4 door and been on the Fords for a while

Let me get a Ford on this thread!

MarkP
01-04-2005, 06:02 PM
Ric I think wes has one. Iíve been meaning to ask about its performance

mitch
01-04-2005, 06:39 PM
Did someone say Ford? :D

milkmania
01-04-2005, 06:43 PM
nice

what's on the other end of that tongue?

MarkP
01-04-2005, 06:48 PM
Showoff:rant: !!!!!!!!!!Did someone say Ford? :D

mitch
01-04-2005, 07:16 PM
Here she is

milkmania
01-04-2005, 07:45 PM
very nice

proud for you:)

mitch
01-04-2005, 09:47 PM
Thanks Brian! That's a sweet looking PS ya got there yerself. Mark, you had to know that pic was coming. :toast:

milkmania
01-04-2005, 09:58 PM
Thank you

I had to start somewhere, just bought it in September.

so anxious to get the kids back in the water in the spring!

ski_king
01-04-2005, 10:42 PM
Another Ford...
97 F150 does a fine job

MarkP
01-04-2005, 10:46 PM
Nice shot of your ford powerslot..:headbang:

Is that a private launch on the Allegheny ? If not it sure looks secluded..

ski_king
01-04-2005, 10:51 PM
Thanks Mark,
Yes, it is only used by me and a few friends who help me shovel the mud off of it in the spring.

MarkP
01-04-2005, 10:53 PM
Need a hand??:D

bradamerry
01-04-2005, 10:58 PM
MarkP, it is an 04' F150 FX4 4x4. 300 hp with 373 rear gears. I can get on the on ramp and gun it (with the boat) and will be doing 73mph when I hit the Interstate. Now that my friend is pulling. I work in the oilfield (where trucks are put to the test) and 95% of the companies run Fords. That says alot. My company truck is an 04' Ford F150 4x4 with 355 rear gears and it will not run with the 373 rear gears. But be sure you get the Triton 5.4 V8.

ski_king
01-04-2005, 11:11 PM
Need a hand??:D
Mark,
This is what the ramp looked like when I pulledthe dock, the water was about 7 feet abouve normal level. 5 days earlier it was 6 feet higher than this. Lots of mud to shovel this coming spring.

MarkP
01-04-2005, 11:22 PM
Let me know man..Mark,
This is what the ramp looked like when I pulledthe dock, the water was about 7 feet abouve normal level. 5 days earlier it was 6 feet higher than this. Lots of mud to shovel this coming spring.Brad, Thatís one of the trucks that Ive been considering. I need a smaller truck with more room. I may trade my 94 F250 this year. Iím dragging my feet to see if transmission issues develop with the 04 Fs. I know first hand of the transmission issues with the 04 Explorer.

prostar205
01-05-2005, 01:41 AM
How do you post pics? Do you have to make a gallery? I thought I saw some instructions on here once but can not seem to find them. I have alot of pics of my truck.

Thanks for the help.

jimmer2880
01-05-2005, 06:23 AM
Sold my 99 F250 Super Duty Diesel (smart move) and bought a 99 Suburban 1500 (even smarter move). Then I threw Add-A-Leaf's under the rear end & heavy duty shocks. Next was some good mudders & now she's a towing rig!

Granted, it's not quite as nice as my F250 Diesel, but then again, it doesn't require nearly as many wrenches as my FORD did.

jimmer2880
01-05-2005, 06:28 AM
Now HERE's a rig that you don't notice the boat behind...

1969 GMC C50. Choped 4' out of the frame. Custom Fork lift welded on rear-end for 8' of ball-height's available. Check out the Custom extending mirrors. They can spread to 18' wide!

I almost forgot the most important part. Pulled the locked up 400 small-block & dropped in a 7-cylinder 305! She'll clear any mosquitos from the area!

Mag_Red
01-05-2005, 07:03 AM
Let me know man..Brad, Thatís one of the trucks that Ive been considering. I need a smaller truck with more room. I may trade my 94 F250 this year. Iím dragging my feet to see if transmission issues develop with the 04 Fs. I know first hand of the transmission issues with the 04 Explorer.

:confused: Care to expound on this Mark?? I was actually considering buying a 2005 F150 Lariet crew cab 4x4. I need more room than the chevy x cab for hauling passengers. It's either the Ford or a Chevy Avalanche. I really don't like the look of the new Chevy crew cabs :popcorn:

mitch
01-05-2005, 07:52 AM
Prostar205, If it's a Ford you want to post pics of, here are the instructions to shrink the pic http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=23

Adding it is easy-->when you're replying to a thread, under additional options, there's an 'attach files' section, just upload your pic from there.

If it's a Chevy you want to post pics of, I believe they have detailed instructions at either of these 2 sites.

www.soccermoms.com or www.build-a-bear.com
:dance:

ski_king
01-05-2005, 07:56 AM
If it's a Chevy you want to post pics of, I believe they have detailed instructions at either of these 2 sites.

www.soccermoms.com or www.build-a-bear.com
:dance:
Here we go Ford vs GM vs ........... are there any others.......... :rolleyes:

bradamerry
01-05-2005, 08:39 AM
I am on my 10 company truck in 8 yrs. All Fords, all with the Triton 5.4 V8. Great trucks and great motors. Stay away from the 2001, it has coil wire trouble(had two those damn things), and they cost alot to replace. I replaced 7 out of 8 on a company truck and all 8 on Brandy's last truck(big reason she has the 04'). My company trucks take a beating and just keep on running. Just afew days ago I had about 1000lbs. in the back and had to drive about 4 miles locked in 4x4 to make it to a drilling rig. Past a Dodge 4x4(with HEMI :noface: ) stuck in the ditch. I pulled him out on my way back :D Nothing but Fords for BeeeRad!!

MarkP
01-05-2005, 10:15 AM
Mag

I think the guy at the dealer I took it to told me it was a selenoid (sp) inside of the transmission he replaced. He said they donít know if they will recall the tranny or not. He told me they see a lot of transmission issues with the 04 Explorer. Also told me the repair SHOULD fix the problem. (slipping bad in-between gears and long hesitation between D and R)

I am considering that same truck 4 door 4X4 F150 but want to see how this transmission issue plays out. Still have a vibration or growling pulling away from a stop???

:confused: Care to expound on this Mark?? I was actually considering buying a 2005 F150 Lariet crew cab 4x4. I need more room than the chevy x cab for hauling passengers. It's either the Ford or a Chevy Avalanche. I really don't like the look of the new Chevy crew cabs :popcorn:

MarkP
01-05-2005, 10:45 AM
If it's a Chevy you want to post pics of, I believe they have detailed instructions at either of these 2 sites.

www.soccermoms.com (http://www.soccermoms.com/) or www.build-a-bear.com (http://www.build-a-bear.com/)
Um,:uglyhamme .........

east tx skier
01-05-2005, 10:46 AM
this seem odd...
Towing capacity: 7,000 lbs. (4WD 1500 Suburban: 8,600)

Doesn't seem odd to me. Suburbans rock (and I own a Ford). Sorry for the generalization, and I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions out there, but it seems that a lot of H2s (at least the ones around here), have never, and never will, see offroad. The original Hum-Vees were amazing, but the new ones seem to be used more for billboards for the local fitness center than anything else. I'd take my old Jeep GW over an H2. It just had more character. Must've been the wood paneling.

Just my worthless $.02. I often miss Matilda.

east tx skier
01-05-2005, 10:53 AM
Stay away from the 2001, it has coil wire trouble(had two those damn things), and they cost alot to replace. I replaced 7 out of 8 on a company truck and all 8 on Brandy's last truck(big reason she has the 04').

Brad, I've got an 01 Expedition with the Triton 5.4. Can you elaborate on what I'm in for?

ski_king
01-05-2005, 11:31 AM
.... All Fords, all with the Triton 5.4 V8. Great trucks and great motors. Stay away from the 2001, it has coil wire trouble(had two those damn things), and they cost alot to replace. I replaced 7 out of 8 on a company truck and all 8 on Brandy's last truck(big reason she has the 04').....
My 97 has the first year of the 5.4 Triton. Has 97K on it now and hasnt had any problems.
I am coming close to the first scheduled tune up at 106,000 and I understand the plugs with the coil packs go for $50 or so. Looks like a $400 plus tune up is due this summer.

milkmania
01-05-2005, 02:30 PM
Doesn't seem odd to me. Suburbans rock
oh I know......but I'd never set a foot in one of them F things:steering:

I was just thinking it odd that the 1500 series Suburban has 1600 lbs more towing capacity than the H2's

rodltg2
01-05-2005, 03:22 PM
here's my gas guzzler , i average about 10mpg, uphill, downhill, freeway, around town , towing . it doesnt matter . 04 dodge with the hemi. so i'm doing my share to support the gas companies with the hemi in my truck and the LQ9 in the boat.

http://www.tmcowners.com/photopost/data/507/1197dodge_truck-med.jpg

Leroy
01-05-2005, 03:24 PM
I think I'm a minority but still love my LX470 pulling machine! Auto leveling, adjustable ride, only 230HP and can still drink gas as good or better than any other machine on here. Year 2000 and 73k miles.

prostar205
01-05-2005, 03:24 PM
Ok - here is my beloved '99 Eddie Bauer Expedition. I absolutely love this thing. I am the orginal owner. As you may have noticed, I removed all the beige Eddie Bauer trim and had it painted white to match the body of the truck. I also put a Street Scene front valance that closely matches the Lightning truck front bumper cover. The engine has been upgraded with a Gibson 3" Stainless Steel Catback exhaust system, BBK 25% underdrive pulleys, cold air intake, Flex-A-Lite electric fans, Superchip Microtuner. I also swapped out the stock anti-sway bars for new Hotchkis bars front and rear, bilstein shocks, slotted rotors and performance pads. The list goes on. The truck is a 4x4 riding on the stock Ford 4 corner air suspension. I recently installed the Groundforce lowering kit (yes, I lowered my 4x4) about 2.5" all around. I still have a ways to go.

Smitty
01-05-2005, 04:17 PM
'04 GMC Denali. 320 HP w/ 8,000 lbs. of towing capacity. All wheel drive all the time. Load leveling suspension and full entertainment system. Put 20K miles on it in 6 months. Last vehicle was a '99 Denali and left it w/ 166K miles and no problems. This is a towing dream. :steering:

ski_king
01-05-2005, 04:23 PM
'04 GMC Denali. 320 HP w/ 8,000 lbs. of towing capacity. All wheel drive all the time. Load leveling suspension and full entertainment system. Put 20K miles on it in 6 months. Last vehicle was a '99 Denali and left it w/ 166K miles and no problems. This is a towing dream. :steering:
Does it have the 4 wheel steering also?
I hear that is great in backing up.

dmac
01-05-2005, 04:47 PM
'03 Navigator, all the bells and whistles with the exception of the navigation system. I opted for the 6 disc in-dash CD player and figured I could get where I am going on my own. So far I am still here and manage to get there. Thought I had a photo on this computer but I do not. Just the boat and the Blue Angels in flight.

Smitty
01-05-2005, 04:51 PM
Does it have the 4 wheel steering also?
I hear that is great in backing up.
No Quadrasteer. Only available on the 3/4 ton Yukon and Suburban. Although this one has a tighter turning radius than my '99 Denali that was shorter.

bradamerry
01-05-2005, 04:54 PM
Brad, I've got an 01 Expedition with the Triton 5.4. Can you elaborate on what I'm in for?

Doug, when they go it is bad. In my company truck I had one go out on a Sunday and I was 100 miles from the house, pulling a boat. Drove that bad boy back on 7 cylinders @ 75mph (company truck). If a coil wire goes bad, that cylinder stops. Brandy's truck had two go out at one time :mad: ! Replaced all 8 within 2 months, when the 7th one blow, I just replaced the last two. Good Luck.

MarkP, I have 60,000 on my work truck(04'), no problems with anything so far.

east tx skier
01-05-2005, 05:24 PM
Brad, is the symptom loss of power? 72K miles on it so far and no problems (for me).

I hear the newer trucks (Dodges) are designed to run on four and only use eight when you really kick in the throttle.

bradamerry
01-05-2005, 05:30 PM
Loss of power for sure! The problem showed up on both trucks around 100,000 miles.

east tx skier
01-05-2005, 05:35 PM
Sweet! Something to look forward to. :(

bradamerry
01-05-2005, 05:40 PM
Sweet! Something to look forward to. :(

Here is the good news, $150.00 a coil, plus labor :eek: .

MarkP
01-05-2005, 05:48 PM
MarkP, I have 60,000 on my work truck(04'), no problems with anything so far.
Thatís good to know brad. Ive owned a lot of Fords, (two right now).

Iím still on the fence. May stay with Ford or look for a truck that comes with a 7/70??

bradamerry
01-05-2005, 05:51 PM
MarkP, I got my 100,000 mile warranty for $900.00 ;) !! You have to beat them down dude.

sfitzgerald351
01-05-2005, 05:57 PM
Here's my ride. I've posted it before, but always love the chance to do it again!

1992 Ford Bronco
351W
K&N Intake, flowmaster exhaust
Thule roofracks for EVERYTHING
Currently has 188,000 miles on it and still going strong.

I drove it from Boston to Alaska (all the way to Prudhoe Bay on the Arctic Ocean) and back via Key West Florida. See http://home.comcast.net/%7Estf351/Alaska/ for the photos!

MarkP
01-05-2005, 06:13 PM
Scot, Did you add some photos, or is it just me. I have to admit, cant get enough of the shots from Scots most excellent adventure..:toast:

mitch
01-05-2005, 07:48 PM
Mark, 7/70 sound like a .....................................Dodge :eek3:

MarkP
01-05-2005, 08:57 PM
shhhhhhhh,:o .

bradamerry
01-05-2005, 09:08 PM
MarkP, do we need to talk?

MarkP
01-05-2005, 09:20 PM
Hey, I talked to the Ford mechanic today when I picked up an 86$ fog light replacement for the 04 Explorer. He told me the Fs had no problem. Also told me a recall was coming out on the explorer, something about the fluid that they used was not compatible with the new electronic valves in the 04 Explorer.:confused:.

NeilM
01-05-2005, 09:31 PM
Geez, I really feel out of date with the '87 Suburban and '97 Blazer..

http://www.tmcowners.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=58&sort=1&cat=507&page=2

But Doug, I agree with you. The Suburban is a great tow vehicle.. This one's been up to the top of Dunraven Pass (9,000 ft above Sea Level) in 90 degree heat, pulling that trailer fully loaded with 3 weeks' supplies and the temp gauge never left dead centre.

jsonova99
01-05-2005, 09:33 PM
Here's my workhorse in Acadia National Park. It's no Defender, but it's one of the last "REAL" Land Rovers. I have a spot saved in the gargae next to the MC for the day I can finally get another D90. :steering:

Vern Swieringa
01-05-2005, 09:50 PM
2000 F150 Lariet 5.4 liter/Pulling 2003 Maristar 230 w/ LQ9.

bcampbe7
01-05-2005, 09:51 PM
Love it jsonova99...
This is my 99 D2. Everything but ACE and rear air. My go anywhere vehicle.
A D90 would be nice...
Are you a member of discoweb?

mitch
01-05-2005, 10:07 PM
Nice rigs guys!

jsonova99
01-05-2005, 10:28 PM
I was a member of discoweb, but for a while there I couldn't get on it. I probably haven't been on the site in about a year. Is it up and running? I have my discoweb stickers! I had a '95 D90 wagon for a while, but for some reason I got rid of it, still trying to figure out what I was thinking. I went with an older MC so that I could afford another one in a few years.

Mag_Red
01-06-2005, 06:43 AM
oh I know......but I'd never set a foot in one of them F things:steering:

I was just thinking it odd that the 1500 series Suburban has 1600 lbs more towing capacity than the H2'sThe Hummer probably weighs more than the Suburban

bcampbe7
01-06-2005, 09:21 AM
I was a member of discoweb, but for a while there I couldn't get on it. I probably haven't been on the site in about a year. Is it up and running? I have my discoweb stickers! I had a '95 D90 wagon for a while, but for some reason I got rid of it, still trying to figure out what I was thinking. I went with an older MC so that I could afford another one in a few years.

Yeah, Dweb is up and running... I too was off for a while while they upgraded their servers and such.
I keep telling myself that I will have a D90 some day. We'll see.

sizzler
01-06-2005, 09:37 AM
my first tow vehicle was a 1970 110 safari station wagon..12 seater with full length roof rack and over-drive....awesome carrying ability,but could only manage 50-60 mph on the flat with the barefoot 200 behind it......going up hill was a nightmare..the q of cars behind was a joy to behold.......it was lime-green and we dipped our feet in pink paint and walked all over it....rebellious or what(hahaah).....
must try and down/upload some pics :steering:

Ric
01-06-2005, 09:46 AM
Let me know man..Brad, Thatís one of the trucks that Ive been considering. I need a smaller truck with more room. I may trade my 94 F250 this year. Iím dragging my feet to see if transmission issues develop with the 04 Fs. I know first hand of the transmission issues with the 04 Explorer.


I thought that the only tranny problems ford was having was on the super duty deisels running an auto transmission?

dmac
01-06-2005, 09:51 AM
I really need to get a picture of the Gator & boat together. But, that won't happen until April or so.

jsonova99
01-06-2005, 09:57 AM
It's too bad Land Rover got away from the utilitarian vehicle, that's what attracted me to them in the first place, 100% purpose built with no frills. The Discovery is nice with the luxury additions, but it still sits on the same basic chassis that it's predecessors did.

jj209
01-06-2005, 12:10 PM
I currently tow with a 1500hd 4x4 / 6.0L Gas, which really really get's the job done!
Looking at the new half ton crew (which has a bit shorter bed on it) BUT it only comes with 5.3 Gas motor and 3.42 axle ratio..... ?? Seems like it would not be nearly as strong as my 6.0 3.73 setup? Anybody have one?


Ric - I owned a 00' 1500 w/ a 5.3 gas. It did a great job pulling my 02' Prostar 209 all over the Midwest. We even loaded it down w/ a Lance 845 P/U camper drove it in 3rd gear and it never once choked going up and down hills or down metro freeways.

Currently pull my 209 w/ an 04' Tahoe w/ a 5.3. Does a great job loaded w/ the family, love it.

MarkP
01-06-2005, 03:03 PM
I thought that the only tranny problems ford was having was on the super duty deisels running an auto transmission?
Ric

The transmission guy at the dealer (yesterday) told me that the Fs are ok?? But he was standing next to a salesman when he said that.

Ric
01-06-2005, 03:28 PM
Ric - I owned a 00' 1500 w/ a 5.3 gas. It did a great job pulling my 02' Prostar 209 all over the Midwest. We even loaded it down w/ a Lance 845 P/U camper drove it in 3rd gear and it never once choked going up and down hills or down metro freeways.

Currently pull my 209 w/ an 04' Tahoe w/ a 5.3. Does a great job loaded w/ the family, love it.
Good, what axle ratio is your tahoe?
I bet the tahoe is roughly the same dry weight as the 1/2 ton crew

Ric
01-06-2005, 03:31 PM
xxxxxxx--------

Ric
01-06-2005, 03:32 PM
Ric

The transmission guy at the dealer (yesterday) told me that the Fs are ok?? But he was standing next to a salesman when he said that.


OK
Reason I mention it is that I have a rancher buddy who gets a couple of new super's every 2 years & they truly USE them for pulling large loads on and off road. After replacing 3 auto-tranny's in one (02 or 03, I cannot remember), they swore them off and now buy only manual trans and of course swear by the power (which I cannot argue). I'm no ford-man but those Super Duty's are STRONG!

MarkP
01-06-2005, 04:46 PM
I guess I kind of evolved into a ford guy after I bought a new 86 Mustang 302. The last two cars (88 F 150 302 and 98 Explorer 6cyl) pulled the Nautique alright. Both got traded at about 115K miles with no problems. The last manual trans I had was in that mustang. It was strong, never pulled with it but it was strong..

Brn85ss
01-06-2005, 06:59 PM
I have a friend that used to work for Ford,We were just talking about their trucks and tranny's. He said he saw all sorts of tranny problems and would only recomend a manuel.

bradamerry
01-06-2005, 09:50 PM
I don't like this :confused: ! But the big three all make good trucks, they all have problems, I have just had (knock on wood) good luck with Ford :woohoo: !

MarkP
01-07-2005, 08:08 AM
I have a friend that used to work for Ford,We were just talking about their trucks and tranny's. He said he saw all sorts of tranny problems and would only recomend a manuel.
85SS

Can you be more specific, even if only vaguely more specific??

Brn85ss
01-07-2005, 10:26 AM
Sorry Mark P I really don't have any specific info on the subject,I talk to him acouple times a week. I will get some details by next week if you want.I've had several Fords myself never had any tranny problems.But my father inlaw went though two e40d trannys in his last f250.

sizzler
01-07-2005, 10:54 AM
There you all go again ,,,,talking about tranny problems......i thought we went through this before..eh Leroy :uglyhamme

Mag_Red
01-07-2005, 11:59 AM
There you all go again ,,,,talking about tranny problems......i thought we went through this before..eh Leroy :uglyhamme :uglyhamme yeah......this thread is Gay!

MarkP
01-07-2005, 12:29 PM
That could go either way, (not necessarily gay).

Leroy
01-07-2005, 12:40 PM
You're right Sizzler, and once about tranny's is enuf! That word should really be on the banned list.

Guess around here there are transmissions and there are trannys!

jayderwin1
01-07-2005, 12:45 PM
Here is my 4 banger 2.4 Liter automatic Tacoma pulling my 2700 lbs rig its a good thing i don't have to go far to get to the lake.

MarkP
01-07-2005, 01:26 PM
Looks good J. How far do you go?

ski36short
01-07-2005, 04:33 PM
I used to work at Ford. I won't buy anything with a modern Ford powertrain in it. Get the tranny (oops, transmission) hot once and it's downhill from there. A couple years ago we pulled my 190 down to Lake Cumberland and back - about a week later the truck was in the shop getting a new one put in. About a month after that repair he got a notice about some 01 F150s w/trailer tow packages not getting trans coolers installed in the plant. Oops...

I'll leave it with that as many friends and ski buddies work there.

east tx skier
01-07-2005, 04:36 PM
Glad I added a transmission cooler. I think my tranny got replaced at 31K miles before it was my truck. Hope I never have such problems.

jayderwin1
01-07-2005, 05:05 PM
I go about 5 five round trip to my normal lake, every once and awhile i go about 40 miles to a like thats more in the mountains.

MarkP
01-07-2005, 05:14 PM
J

Those Toyota And Nissan Trucks are supposed to be about bullet proof, from what Iíve heard. I looked at a Nissan 4 door the other day. It was cool as hell. Expensive but cool

Mag_Red
01-07-2005, 05:14 PM
Nothing against Fords, I did after all, buy a new Ford van for the business, but I have over 100,000 miles on the Chevy with absolutely no problems. I pull the boat 200 miles each way to Cumberland, every week-end, at speeds between 70-85 MPH, with :headbang: out so much as a hick-up!

jj209
01-07-2005, 10:46 PM
Good, what axle ratio is your tahoe?
I bet the tahoe is roughly the same dry weight as the 1/2 ton crew

Ric - My Tahoe has the 3.73 and I would guess dry weight would be similar. However there may be other things to consider w/ weight; wheelbase, 3rd row seats, DVD player. I just know it's my wife daily driver and she loves it. I drive it for the most part when the boats hooked up, can't wait until spring as I'm buried in 14" of snow. :

Ryan
01-08-2005, 01:55 AM
I love seeing the Discos on the board. I just picked this up last week. Full-time 4x4, 4.7 270hp 330lb-ft! It's like it has short-man's syndrome for wanting to be bigger than it is. But, being small gives it sub 8 sec 0-60 and 7,000lb tow rating. I cannot wait for it to stop raining here so I can take my boat out for a pull. My wife thinks I'm nuts for wanting to get the boat out just to go for a drive.

Now I'm trying to decide, 12" or 18" window decal...
or there's always the special order chrome...

Andrť
01-08-2005, 07:29 AM
Nice truck...But what is it?

Mag_Red
01-08-2005, 11:46 AM
Nice truck...But what is it?I'm guessing it's a Toyota

Ryan
01-08-2005, 12:46 PM
It's a 2005 Toyota 4Runner. Are Toyotas a rare in Canada?

Andrť
01-08-2005, 01:18 PM
No ,not at all.Just didn't recognize the make.
Very nice!
Useful with all that snow in California...

Ryan
01-08-2005, 05:32 PM
I know, it doesn't even come close to snowing here at the beach. But we have some pretty good mountains in So CA. We go to Big Bear and Mammoth Mtn enough to where 4wd is worth it. You are required to put chains on a 2wd when I don't really think it's necessary.

More importantly, the boat ramp I use is super slick when the tide is down. Way worse than any lake I've been to.

Bobby
01-08-2005, 05:33 PM
YES!! I think I have the crappiest tow vehicle here :o . I have a beautiful 1988 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4. Now I'm only in college so don't dog on me too much. She might be a little rough around the edges from the off-road abuse I've given her :dance: , but there is no problem towing the boat down the road or even on a highway, although it might take a while to get where you're wanting to go on the highway... :o The upside to this truck is that chicks love it, especially when the top is off.

Ryan
01-08-2005, 05:37 PM
Dog your ride? No way. Those are so fun with the top off. I think you're pretty lucky. I sure wish I had a MC when I was in school.

milkmania
01-08-2005, 10:10 PM
I'll sell any vehicle I own........

Except my 88 K-5 Blazer!!!!!!!

Bobby
01-08-2005, 10:24 PM
here's a pic of the same truck after an offroading adventure. after that trip i had to get:
new power steering pump
new front and rear driveshafts
new transfer case housing
upper and lower ball joints
reconnect the emergency brake
and im sure im leaving some other stuff out

TourneyChef
01-09-2005, 04:38 AM
I love seeing the Discos on the board. I just picked this up last week. Full-time 4x4, 4.7 270hp 330lb-ft! It's like it has short-man's syndrome for wanting to be bigger than it is. But, being small gives it sub 8 sec 0-60 and 7,000lb tow rating. ..

I cant believe those things have V8's in 'em now. I had a '92 with a 3.0 V6. It was a total dog and the engine blew up when the head gasket failed. It was covered by a recall, but what a mess. I found fan shroud plastic chips from the thing in wheel wells and crevices 3 years after that. I had a FJ80 LandCruiser too that really would have benefitted from that 4.7L engine. It could crawl over a house in low 4 but couldn't pull over 65 mph to save it's life. I kinda wish I would have kept it and swapped the POS inline 6 for a 350 and a New Venture 4500 Trans. That thing was a Japanese Hummer.
Toyota makes a great truck, I really wanted one of their 2000/2001 V6 4Runners to put a TRD supercharger on it, but with the added cost of it, and having to run premium gas with the blower= just not worth it. Seems they got the problem licked thowing that V8 in there. "There's no replacement for displacement", but try to tell that to all the Honda Civic race kids! Just hope they upped the seating room in it for the 6' 2" American race. They always felt small in adjustability for big guys, that and you'll need a set of little Japanese size hands if you ever plan to change the spark plugs or do any other maintanance yourself. Good luck, nice vehicle!

Ryan
01-09-2005, 07:44 PM
We still have a 94 150hp 4Runner and can totally relate to the lack of power. It's for sale now. It too had the engine replaced after the head gasket failed. It blew on my wife (when she was single) at 2:00am in the middle of no-where-southern-Utah on a ski trip. The clutch just started showing hints of slipping. I just didn't want to have it go out on the ramp pulling the boat out.

I know a guy at TRD and might get this super charged. We'll see. This is the LandCruiser engine but with VVTi and more power, so relatively potent I surely don't need it... but I didn't need a boat either... :D

We came really close to getting a Suburban or Tahoe, but we had a hard enough time getting the boat in and out of our alley. This fits us until we have more kids. Number two is on her way already.

sizzler
01-10-2005, 02:40 AM
i ve got a toyota landcruiser amazon with the 4.2 turbodiesel...great car...fantastic for towing (3500kg(7700lb)).....cruises and drives like a top saloon......am on my third one now(1 stolen,1 crashed)...never had any mechanical problems in 9 years.......a pal of mine who works for them as an engineer reckons you could weld down the bonnet if you wanted.......
do like the look of the escalades/navigators but they only come in left hand drive,,which is a bummer when towing overhere..

Ric
01-10-2005, 09:52 AM
YES!! I think I have the crappiest tow vehicle here :o . I have a beautiful 1988 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4. Now I'm only in college so don't dog on me too much. She might be a little rough around the edges from the off-road abuse I've given her :dance: , but there is no problem towing the boat down the road or even on a highway, although it might take a while to get where you're wanting to go on the highway... :o The upside to this truck is that chicks love it, especially when the top is off.
Love it! Your truck takes me back to the good ole days for sure!
One of these days I will scan a pic of the k5 I had

Ric
01-10-2005, 09:55 AM
Ric - My Tahoe has the 3.73 and I would guess dry weight would be similar. However there may be other things to consider w/ weight; wheelbase, 3rd row seats, DVD player. I just know it's my wife daily driver and she loves it. I drive it for the most part when the boats hooked up, can't wait until spring as I'm buried in 14" of snow. :
That's the rub.... You cannot get the 3.73:1 gear in the half ton crew or I'd probably try one. They offer a 4.10 but it's not something any dealer has located so far.

bcampbe7
01-10-2005, 12:06 PM
Ryan-
Very nice ride, but did you get rid of your Disco?

Rockman
01-10-2005, 01:43 PM
We've got a 2002 Silverado 2500HD with the 6.0 liter Gas and the 4:10 gear. We have 79k miles on it now (bought new in May 2002).

Whether pulling our MC or our neighbor's 37 foot Baja, truck still has plenty of power.

Ryan
01-11-2005, 12:32 AM
No Disco/ I got a permanent company car -Jeep Liberty, a little feminine but I'd drive anything when it's on someone elses bill. That LR quirkiness was the best, but now I love 4Runner more.

I toyed around with a new LR3 a few weeks ago while car shopping. I hope someone on here gets one I'd love to hear how it tows - big power jump, and a jump in base price. The 04 Disco S are gone ($35k +rebates). Now they start at $45k. But SO much nicer.

Now I have some money left over for my next boat. But I need a bigger garage first...We should do a garage thread.

jake
01-11-2005, 08:16 AM
Hey Becamp....how does that discovery do with the Prostar? I was considering one to tow mine, but I wrote it off because of the terrible weight to power ratio, would be interested in your take...which engine do you have, the 4.4?

jsonova99
01-11-2005, 08:38 AM
My '00 Disco tows my Prostar with no problem. I don't even feel it behind the truck and that's with the 4.0 liter engine. :)

Thrall
01-11-2005, 11:41 AM
:confused: Care to expound on this Mark?? I was actually considering buying a 2005 F150 Lariet crew cab 4x4. I need more room than the chevy x cab for hauling passengers. It's either the Ford or a Chevy Avalanche. I really don't like the look of the new Chevy crew cabs :popcorn:

Mag, you can get a half ton Chev crewcab, w/ the real short bed now. Not an Avy, a real 4 dr p/u w/5-5-1/2' bed. They look good, just like a 2500 crewcab w/ a little shorter box.

Ric
01-11-2005, 11:46 AM
Mag, you can get a half ton Chev crewcab, w/ the real short bed now. Not an Avy, a real 4 dr p/u w/5-5-1/2' bed. They look good, just like a 2500 crewcab w/ a little shorter box.
I want to meet someone who's pulled a boat with one of those Thrall. They only come with 5.3 motors (unless you get a denali package) but it's like a needle in a haystack to find a 5.3 half ton crew with a 4.10 gear.

east tx skier
01-11-2005, 12:28 PM
As far as rear axles go, you can get away with much less than a 4.10 rear and pull a ski boat. Obviously, a 3.73 or so is preferable though.

Edit: Sorry, I'm reading backwards on this thread. What does Chevy offer? A 3.55 or comparable?

I found out (a little late) that my expedition has a 3.33:1 ratio. Didn't even think to look into that when I was shopping for it and might have kept looking had I known. I added a tranny cooler and it tows the boat quite happily with no ill effects and no struggling. It's rated at 6,500 lbs with that rear axle ratio. I think the 3.73 gets it to 7,800 or 8,000 but I'm struggling to remember what I've read at this point.

Ric
01-11-2005, 12:44 PM
yes, my 6.0 has a 3.73 axle and is absolutely perfect combo for pulling (and not pulling) BUT the new half ton crew (5'8" box) only comes with the small (5.3) v8 and 3.42 axle OR 4.10 axle. I think the truck would be great but am concerned about the 5.3(much lower torque than a 6.0) combined with the high rear axle ratio.

As far as rear axles go, you can get away with much less than a 4.10 rear and pull a ski boat. Obviously, a 3.73 or so is preferable though.

Edit: Sorry, I'm reading backwards on this thread. What does Chevy offer? A 3.55 or comparable?

I found out (a little late) that my expedition has a 3.33:1 ratio. Didn't even think to look into that when I was shopping for it and might have kept looking had I known. I added a tranny cooler and it tows the boat quite happily with no ill effects and no struggling. It's rated at 6,500 lbs with that rear axle ratio. I think the 3.73 gets it to 7,800 or 8,000 but I'm struggling to remember what I've read at this point.

Rockman
01-11-2005, 01:42 PM
I do not beleive Chevy offers a 4:10 gear with the smaller 5.3 liter.

You can get the 5.3 liter (1500 series) or 6.0 liter with a 3:73 gear (2500 series) or comparable.

When you move up to the HD Series, 2500HD or 3500HD, you have the choice of the 6.0 with the 4:10 gear , the 8.1 liter with the 4:10 gear or the DuraMax Diesel with the 4:10 gear.

For 2005, they may have some changes, but I highly doubt it.

The 5.3 liter was supposedly relcing the 5.7 liter but is no way comparable. You would have to move to the 6.0 liter or the the big boy, 8.1 liter for more hp.

The 5.3 liter would be good to drive around town but not something to make long trips without the tranny screaming. My buddy went from the 5.7 liter to the 5.3 liter back up to the 6.0 liter. He said he'll never go bacl. We've got the 6.0 with the 4:10 gear.

Ric
01-11-2005, 02:28 PM
I do not beleive Chevy offers a 4:10 gear with the smaller 5.3 liter.

You can get the 5.3 liter (1500 series) or 6.0 liter with a 3:73 gear (2500 series) or comparable.

When you move up to the HD Series, 2500HD or 3500HD, you have the choice of the 6.0 with the 4:10 gear , the 8.1 liter with the 4:10 gear or the DuraMax Diesel with the 4:10 gear.

For 2005, they may have some changes, but I highly doubt it.

The 5.3 liter was supposedly relcing the 5.7 liter but is no way comparable. You would have to move to the 6.0 liter or the the big boy, 8.1 liter for more hp.

The 5.3 liter would be good to drive around town but not something to make long trips without the tranny screaming. My buddy went from the 5.7 liter to the 5.3 liter back up to the 6.0 liter. He said he'll never go bacl. We've got the 6.0 with the 4:10 gear.

The salesman says for 05 half ton crew (new design), you can get 4.1gear with 5.3L but cannot find it :mad:

Mag_Red
01-11-2005, 02:32 PM
I want to meet someone who's pulled a boat with one of those Thrall. They only come with 5.3 motors (unless you get a denali package) but it's like a needle in a haystack to find a 5.3 half ton crew with a 4.10 gear.Ric my Silverado has the 4.8L and a 3.73. I have absolutely no problems towing with it. As long as you keep the engine in the 2500-3000 RMP range...it will pull like a r@ped Ape :steering:

east tx skier
01-11-2005, 02:38 PM
yes, my 6.0 has a 3.73 axle and is absolutely perfect combo for pulling (and not pulling) BUT the new half ton crew (5'8" box) only comes with the small (5.3) v8 and 3.42 axle OR 4.10 axle. I think the truck would be great but am concerned about the 5.3(much lower torque than a 6.0) combined with the high rear axle ratio.

Sorry, forgot to mention that my Ford has the 5.4L V8. Tows like its not there.

Mag_Red
01-11-2005, 03:05 PM
Sorry, forgot to mention that my Ford has the 5.4L V8. Tows like its not there.What year is your Ford??? I heard that the new ones aren't all that great due to the almost 6000 lb wt of the truck. They did a test in Road and Track, I think, and the Ford was the worst in towing due to the amount of vehicle wt. That new Nissan Titan was the King of the Hill, but I can't get used to the looks of the crew cab. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/ack2.gif It even had the most interior and back seat room of the 5 trucks tested. I will agree though.......the Ford is one fine looking truck and I love the interior , especially with the center console. :toast: The new Harley Davidson model is going to offer an all-wheel drive system, but no crew cab. I wish the manufactures would let us option the trucks the way we want.

east tx skier
01-11-2005, 03:42 PM
Its a 2001 Expedition. I added a transmission cooler for peace of mind. Again, there are more capable tow vehicles out there. But for towing my boat and trailer, which can't be over 4,000 pounds, I have to remind myself that they're back there.

The 2004s come with the 3.73 rear axle ratio standard, which should be helpful.

I love the new Nissans and like their looks, too. Those guys in Road and Track no more about cars and trucks than I do so they get to rate one versus the other. All I can say is that it rides nice and does well at yanking the boat around.

Ric
01-11-2005, 03:49 PM
Ric my Silverado has the 4.8L and a 3.73. I have absolutely no problems towing with it. As long as you keep the engine in the 2500-3000 RMP range...it will pull like a r@ped Ape :steering:
yep, that's why I'm wondering why no 3.73 is available on 5.3L hmmmmm :confused: oh well I guess in march when I get my prostar I will tow it to the chevy dealer and hook it to a 3.42 5.3L and give it a test drive :rolleyes:

JMT
01-11-2005, 07:15 PM
1998 Chevy Silverado 1/2 ton 4X4 extended cab Z71

lakes Rick
01-11-2005, 07:26 PM
I have an 01 Silverado 1/2 ton extended cab short box pickup with the 5.3 and 3.73 gears that I bought new.. Pulls my Maristar 225 anywhere I want to go.. Great power especially in the 1800-2400 rpm range.. Real pleased with the power and the driveability.. Now if they have only fixed the Cold Start Knock, it would be perfect....

sandsslot
01-11-2005, 09:22 PM
I recently pulled my '93 S&S accross the state of Michigan and down through southern Kentucky. I've also done the same with a 1500 Suburban, both 4WD. These Chevy trucks are the best. I didn't even know the trailer was back there, not only from a reserve acceleration standpoint and a vehicle dynamics stability point, but from a transmission busyness standpoint...the busyness algorithm is awesome. It only learns once you are towing a trailer - even on the highest grades.

JEREMY79
01-11-2005, 09:26 PM
sandsslot:
where were you going in southern Kentucky?
ja♠

sandsslot
01-11-2005, 09:29 PM
lake Cumberland - the greatest place in the states to waterski...in my opinion. We have an annual smash down there in the fall.

JEREMY79
01-11-2005, 09:51 PM
lake cumberland is sweet
didnt mean to hi-jack the thread
ja♠

Mag_Red
01-11-2005, 10:19 PM
lake Cumberland - the greatest place in the states to waterski...in my opinion. We have an annual smash down there in the fall.You can find me at Lee's Ford Marina on any given week-end. :dance:

MarkP
01-12-2005, 09:46 AM
lake Cumberland sounds cool:confused:

jake
01-12-2005, 12:57 PM
My '00 Disco tows my Prostar with no problem. I don't even feel it behind the truck and that's with the 4.0 liter engine. :)

OK...I might believe "adequate" or even "capable", but I don't believe you don't feel the boat there when you're driving a vehicle over 5000 lbs and you have a 218 hp / 235 ft/lb torque small v-8.

Can you provide some realistic feedback on the discovery's tow performance? How does it do with hills? Braking capabilities? Anything you think is overstressed (ie tranny or brakes) by the weight of your boat.

bcampbe7
01-12-2005, 02:37 PM
Sorry I haven't posted back to you Jake...
I have a 99 D2 with the 4.0 (188hp) so it's not a speed demon to begin with. Like you mentioned it weighs over 5000lbs so it's got two strikes right off the bat.
It seems to pull pretty good though considering all of the above. Yeah, it's a little more sluggish, and takes a few feet longer to stop, but I would think most vehicles would be like that. A friend of mine has a Jeep Wrangler with a 4.0 and you can feel every little bump, curve, and everything else in the road while pulling my boat. Another friend has a Honda Passport (or something like that) and it is the same way. Behind the Land Rover the pull is really very smooth.
The towing capacity is rated at something like 4400 lbs. in high range and 7000 lbs. in low range so I don't worry about pulling my boat down the highway too much. I will say that I use low range when launching and loading, mainly because I don't have to use much throttle and can minimize some jerkiness. I would buy a '03 or newer Discovery to get the bigger engine.
Definitely not near as good of a pull as a full-sized Ford or Chevy mind you, but good enough for my 5-6 miles to the ramp. :D
The guy we bought our boat from used a Ford Dully Diesel to pull the boat. I'd say that would yank the ProStar 190 around like nothing.


Edit: Owning a Land Rover is a love/hate relationship. I will be happy if I get 100K miles without a major breakdown. I am at 78K now and have been told several times that if I don't have something major break at or around 80K I have done pretty good. I bought the vehicle with 33K miles and have pretty much babied it since I have owned it. I have put in about $5000, over the cost of the vehicle, to repair "minor" problems. For example, the front driveshaft was $1000 after all said and done and that was me changing it out. Also it goes through brake pads and rotors like someone with halitosis goes through tic-tacs. Maybe mine was built on a Friday during the Rugby playoffs, I don't know.
All that said, I will hopefully keep this vehicle forever, but will not buy another one...

Mag_Red
01-12-2005, 04:06 PM
lake Cumberland sounds cool:confused:NOt to deviate from the topic but......Sounds cool??? :uglyhamme Is Cool! :headbang: Here's our Marina http://www.leesfordmarina.com/images/lf-aerial-6-9-03-a.jpg

east tx skier
01-12-2005, 04:16 PM
MarkP, you win the avitar award for 2005. I'm dying here. That's the funniest thing I've seen all day.

MarkP
01-12-2005, 05:17 PM
Mag, Thatís in KY?? Ive been scouting vacation spots..

Nice shot

NOt to deviate from the topic but......Sounds cool??? :uglyhamme Is Cool! :headbang: Here's our Marina http://www.leesfordmarina.com/images/lf-aerial-6-9-03-a.jpg

bcampbe7
01-12-2005, 07:11 PM
NOt to deviate from the topic but......Sounds cool??? :uglyhamme Is Cool! :headbang: Here's our Marina http://www.leesfordmarina.com/images/lf-aerial-6-9-03-a.jpg


Mag-
I think I see your boat!

bradamerry
01-12-2005, 07:16 PM
Where's the Mate??

Danny R
01-12-2005, 11:18 PM
Here is mine 1999 /1500. I just ordered some of those pens with your company name that you give away I couldn't resist the burgandy and gold ones. This MC should be a classic they dont seem to offer this colour any more.

Mag_Red
01-12-2005, 11:20 PM
Mag-
I think I see your boat! Hard to miss the floatin banana :D

Ryan
01-12-2005, 11:34 PM
Nice set up Danny R! What kind of trailer is that?

sizzler
01-13-2005, 02:34 AM
OK...I might believe "adequate" or even "capable", but I don't believe you don't feel the boat there when you're driving a vehicle over 5000 lbs and you have a 218 hp / 235 ft/lb torque small v-8.

Can you provide some realistic feedback on the discovery's tow performance? How does it do with hills? Braking capabilities? Anything you think is overstressed (ie tranny or brakes) by the weight of your boat.
jake...i borrowed a friends dads disco(2000) to tow my boat to the dealers..it would not be my choice of tow vehicle..its neither the rugged off-roader that a defender is and its not a luxury car such as the range rover...its too in between....however i have tested the new discovery and IT is fantastic ,but over here it is £50,000 specced up,,,which puts it into competition with my toyota amazon which i much prefer... :twocents:

however it was better than towing it by hand :toast:

Ryan
01-13-2005, 02:57 AM
Sizzler,

I love that Prado/ International Land Cruiser. I wish they sold it here like that. They badge it as a Lexus GX 470 and accordingly charge $15,000 more for it than a 4Runner (same platform).

Danny R
01-13-2005, 07:27 AM
Nice set up Danny R! What kind of trailer is that?

Ryan
That is a Shorelander trailer galvinized. But it is not mine at the time of the picture I did not own a trailer so that is borrowed from a ski pal with a 1998/205 MC. I now have a trailer that was made by fellow he calls him self Craddle Ride. I had mine made with 4 bulks.

Danny R

sizzler
01-13-2005, 08:59 AM
Sizzler,

I love the Amazon/Prado Land Cruiser! I wish they sold it here like that. They badge it as a Lexus GX 470 and accordingly charge $15,000 more for it than a 4Runner (same platform).
ryan....i've got the 4.2ltr diesel version...pulls almost as much as me :banana:

MarkP
01-13-2005, 09:40 AM
Here is mine 1999 /1500. I just ordered some of those pens with your company name that you give away I couldn't resist the burgandy and gold ones. This MC should be a classic they dont seem to offer this colour any more.
Nice ride Danny R

Ric
01-19-2005, 06:17 PM
Ok I went with the chevy 1500HD crew like I had originally. 6.0L, 3.73 gears
Now all I need is a boat to tow behind it! :rant:

Rockman
01-19-2005, 07:31 PM
Ric,

Good choice. I'm sure you will not have any problems towing whatever you have behind it.

We have the 6.0 but with the 4:10 gear. Your gas mileage will be a little better than ours.

Let me know how you like it.

nattylightmike
01-19-2005, 08:17 PM
04' Cummins, you can't beat 325 hp and 600 lb ft of torque.

Ric
01-20-2005, 10:05 AM
good lookin truck. I've always liked the way the dodge sits up high.

sizzler
01-26-2005, 05:12 PM
this was my first boat/tow vehicle in 1991.......a 1971 safari landrover and craigcraft barfooter with an evinrude 225hp

edwin
01-27-2005, 02:51 PM
Last year's ride...

bcampbe7
01-27-2005, 03:19 PM
Very nice Edwin! Do you still have the Range Rover? How do you like it?

bcampbe7
01-27-2005, 03:20 PM
Sweet '71 LR Sizzler!

Diesel
01-27-2005, 05:04 PM
Don't have pics of my new truck yet so here is my old truck.

http://img71.exs.cx/img71/7586/DSC00558.jpg

http://img119.exs.cx/img119/3769/DSC00557r.jpg

mitch
01-27-2005, 05:10 PM
Diesel, Looks like it's on it's last leg.

JEREMY79
01-27-2005, 05:33 PM
OLD TRUCK?? :confused:

JEREMY79
01-27-2005, 06:10 PM
This was my latest creation. I sold it and it just left yesterday. Sorry if the files are large.

Rockman
01-27-2005, 07:47 PM
Diesel,

Nice Truck. I have the same one except I have the extended cab and not the crew cab.

What size tires and rims did you go with? I need new tires this year and would like to go with something like you added. Also, where did you get them from and did you add a lift kit or no?

Leroy
01-27-2005, 08:02 PM
Nice creation Jeremy, they are actually very small files, don't shrink so small the next time, I see one at 96x71 and it I think it can be 640X480.

Are you going to have one of those pimp my ride shows? If so my son is ready to send you his car!

erkoehler
01-27-2005, 11:34 PM
Here is my new truck, just got it a couple months ago....

erkoehler
01-27-2005, 11:36 PM
Here is one other photo...

edwin
01-27-2005, 11:36 PM
Very nice Edwin! Do you still have the Range Rover? How do you like it?

I offloaded the Rover after 12 months...drove great, looked the part, but was somewhat less than reliable. 9 trips to the dealer in a year with the shortest stay being 4 days, normally 6-7 days. Decided to sell it while the demand was still high for the vehicle.

Replaced it with a Nissan Armada...doesn't look the part, but it has more room that we needed and been typical Japanese in the reliability dept.

Mag_Red
01-28-2005, 06:03 AM
I offloaded the Rover after 12 months...drove great, looked the part, but was somewhat less than reliable. 9 trips to the dealer in a year with the shortest stay being 4 days, normally 6-7 days. Decided to sell it while the demand was still high for the vehicle.

Replaced it with a Nissan Armada...doesn't look the part, but it has more room that we needed and been typical Japanese in the reliability dept. :cool: I'm currently looking at the Armada or Titan. Great reviews on both of them, especially the drive line.

( I just don't get the Land Rover thing ) :confused:

BriEOD
01-28-2005, 06:25 AM
A friend of mine got a King Cab Titan recently loaded. The one thing that I thought was neat is that it has a sunroof and a roof mounted DVD player. It's a nice vehicle. However, the Japanese have a long way to go to catch up with the American trucks.

Mag_Red
01-28-2005, 07:00 AM
A friend of mine got a King Cab Titan recently loaded. The one thing that I thought was neat is that it has a sunroof and a roof mounted DVD player. It's a nice vehicle. However, the Japanese have a long way to go to catch up with the American trucks.
Care to expound on that comment??
The Titan out pulls, out accelerates all the competition, and offers more features, at thousands less, than the other 4 competitors.

Ford F150.......slow and weighs almost 3 tons! Plus it's a Ford! Althought I do think it has the nicest crew cab in Lariet trim.

Dodge..........I will just never own a Chryler product......although I do like the "in your face" styling.

Chevy Silverado.....I love my 110,000 mile Silverado GREAT ENGINE! But the styling is dated and the interior looks cheap!

Toyota........just too small for a full sized truck and bland looking.

ski_king
01-28-2005, 08:01 AM
I read an interesting article in Trailer Life (http://www.trailerlife.com/output.cfm?id=847693) where they did a comparison between the F150, Chevy, Toyota and Nissan. They did the usual 0 to 60, MPG, etc. But what was really interesting was looking at the 0-60 pulling a 6500 travel trailer. As I remember the Nissan was the quickest. The Dodge was left out for some reason.

Too bad the online article was cut short of the good stuff. I will see if I can find the magazine and get the numbers to compare.

I am not a Dodge fan, but at work we got a new 3/4 ton Dodge with the Hemi. All I can say about the power is wow! But it is a Dodge.

mitch
01-28-2005, 08:09 AM
mag, If I had a Silverado, I'd want a Titan too. If you do get one, just think you'll have the proven track record and years of truck building experience of a.....Datsun err Nissan. They are sharp looking, but you'll have to ask other Titan owners how they're doing after 100K + miles real world. If what you say is true they should own the truck market in no time...... Are they really thousands less? Check Edmunds, folks are paying well over 30K loaded. All that aside, I have not driven one, and they do look very cool. TGIF

mitch
01-28-2005, 08:39 AM
Eric, How do you like the Durango? Any problems? What engine do you have? What kind of milage are you getting? Thx!

tex
01-28-2005, 08:59 AM
Mitch-great aviator!

JEREMY79
01-28-2005, 10:49 AM
[QUOTE=Mag_Red]Care to expound on that comment??
The Titan out pulls, out accelerates all the competition, and offers more features, at thousands less, than the other 4 competitors.]

I hate to get in this but Where I come from trucks are for working. There is three kinds of work truck

Ford
Chevy
Dodge

When it is all said and done you still have a foriegn (sp?) truck. You spent the extra for a American boat. :confused:

Diesel the truck you posted----thats a work truck-and a go to town on the weekend truck. Nice ride.

nissan- toyota just dont get it
:twocents:

iokua
01-28-2005, 11:00 AM
Mag,

I thought the Titan was pretty neat when it came out too; a little skeptical after seeing this:

http://www.fordforums.com/archive/index.php/t-72581.html

Yes, it's Ford forum, but it quotes the article from AutoWeek, and I've seen the story a few other places.

east tx skier
01-28-2005, 11:39 AM
Any of you Ford F-150, Expedition, Navigator owners taken your truck in over the fire hazard recall yet. I took my 01 Exped in this morning. Fortunately, apparently not all 01s are subject to the recall, i.e., mine. I'd be more worried, but I park in the driveway. I was not looking forward to doing without cruise control until June while Ford fabricated new connections.

Ben
01-28-2005, 11:43 AM
Go big or go home, right?

east tx skier
01-28-2005, 11:47 AM
Ben, that beautiful boat looks like it's riding a little low.

mitch
01-28-2005, 11:53 AM
Thanks Tex. I don't have that shirt anymore, I think the wife threw it away!

Ben
01-28-2005, 11:53 AM
I've added my airbags to the truck since this pic to help soften the ride, and level it out some (seems to sag a bit w/o boat), but, yes the bow is still low. That is my fix to the rudder guard driveway interference issue.

Moving to a lake in the spring, so the whole problem goes away. My next technical task is sizing my garage ceiling joists appropriately (remodeling anyway) so I can hang my trailer when boat is on lift (need to be creative on a 50 x 180 lot).

east tx skier
01-28-2005, 11:55 AM
I've got that same driveway issue (solved only by drag wheels, 2" trailer lift, and a 5.5" drop hitch used only in the driveway).

Sounds like a big project for the trailer, but a good one. You don't want to leave them outside without a boat on them as they'll rust pretty quick.

mitch
01-28-2005, 04:43 PM
Mag, I expected you to be on here vigorously defending the Nissan badge?? :rolleyes:

ski36short
01-29-2005, 06:26 PM
Nice rig Ben, I'll have to keep an eye out for it in the area!

What lake are you moving to?

ski36short
01-29-2005, 06:34 PM
I don't get the Titan/Armada thing. FWIW the JD Power scores on it suck and that's why Nissan has the fix-it crew down at their brand new plant figuring things out. The numbers are impressive and there are some nice features but I didn't think it had anything on the American trucks in the interior. Still cheap plastic with flimsy-looking hinges and generally unimpressive fit-and-finish. Styling is subjective so if you like it, great, but I think the Armada is goofy looking and the Infiniti version is just plain offensive. Toyota trucks are still toyish but they are Toyotas...

Soon I'm going to be unloading my POS 98 Grand Cherokee for an 05 Envoy. After that experience I will never own a Chrysler out of warranty. I'm afraid of Ford transmissions, their general lack of powertrain oomph, and uncomfortable flat seats so that leaves the General and I'm fine with that...

MarkP
01-29-2005, 06:44 PM
That is a cool big 4 dr ford.:toast: It must have been an omen. Today as I was drooling over, I mean checking out a 4 door Tundra in a parking lot, I just about had myself convinced that I needed one, when, around the corner comes this beautiful new 4 door F 350 4X4 with the diesel just a hummin. SWEEEET 350..

Farmer Ted
01-29-2005, 07:09 PM
The Wildman told you to get the Ford MarkP!! :headbang:

bradamerry
01-29-2005, 08:54 PM
The Wildman told you to get the Ford MarkP!! :headbang:

MarkP, Best work truck ever built is Ford :banana: !

Andrť
01-29-2005, 09:30 PM
Work truck! You've said it.
Who really needs a F350 for private use?
Mark's job doesn't require a F 350...LOL

ski_king
01-29-2005, 09:59 PM
Mark, did you check out the truck (http://www.tmcowners.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=845) that WakeSeeky has?
He has the truck I want.
Nice truck and boat WakeSeeky!!

bradamerry
01-30-2005, 08:51 AM
Work truck! You've said it.
Who really needs a F350 for private use?
Mark's job doesn't require a F 350...LOL

I don't have a F350, I have 2 F150s, still best work trucks ever built. And pulling a 20ft. boat is work :banana: ! Well maybe not for a Ford.

MarkP
01-30-2005, 10:09 AM
Mark, did you check out the truck (http://www.tmcowners.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=845) that WakeSeeky has?
He has the truck I want.
Nice truck and boat WakeSeeky!!

I agree!!:toast:

WakeSeeky
01-30-2005, 06:18 PM
Thanks!! I love that picture, because it's my 3 of my favorite things, in order: My husband, our boat & our truck. Isn't he good to me? :)

The truck we purchased used last summer & is the product of many months of looking for the right deal. It was well worth the effort, though, pulls like a dream & it's a diesel, so it should last longer than we do. With any luck, we will not be truck shopping again for many, many years!

Mag_Red
01-30-2005, 07:34 PM
Mag, I expected you to be on here vigorously defending the Nissan badge?? :rolleyes: I haven't bought one yet........I'm just disappointed with what's out there. I'm happy as hell with my Silverado........my only regret with Chevy is the cheap, and over 6 year old interior design. My little 4.8 L 4X4 has clocked over 110,000 trouble free miles...... gets 16 MPG around town ( try and get that with a Dodge Ram) and 12 MPG pulling the Mastercraft at an average of 75 MPH. I'd buy another Chevy in a heart beat, but I hate the new front end styling and the out dated interior.

Ryan
01-30-2005, 11:58 PM
Wait until '07. Ford, Chevy and Toyota are all redesigning their Full-Size SUV's. I bet Chevy will add a new truck that year as well. Ford is getting rid of the Excursion and opting for an Expedition and Expedition XL like the GM's. I plan on keeping my Toyota until then when I can take my pick of the litter.

Mag_Red
01-31-2005, 04:52 AM
Wait until '07. Ford, Chevy and Toyota are all redesigning their Full-Size SUV's. I bet Chevy will add a new truck that year as well. Ford is getting rid of the Excursion and opting for an Expedition and Expedition XL like the GM's. I plan on keeping my Toyota until then when I can take my pick of the litter.:rant: Not sure I can wait two more years !!!! Everything I own is already 6 years old.

Ben
01-31-2005, 07:02 AM
On the note of the F350, it is a bit overkill & would rather have a 250, hoping for a smoother ride. However, I wanted the old bodystyle & the 8' bed, which put me in the the 350 category. 10+ years from now, I'll be looking for a 2006ish F250 of the same setup. We do use the 4 doors & 8' bed, but rarely use the GVW values.... I do know that a few thousand pounds in the bed really makes it ride smooth, and doen't seem to make the motor think anything is different.

BriEOD
01-31-2005, 08:22 AM
I'll be looking for a truck at the end of this year. I like the Fords. Have you guys seen the King Ranch edition trucks? My friend has one and that interior is pretty sweet. I really like the F-250 but other that towing the boat, my ATV trailer, and odds and ends I'm not sure I need a truck that big, that eats that much gas. The F-150 maybe fits me better but I do like the looks of the F-250. I want a 4 door, 4x4 and I think I like gas over diesel. Any thoughts...?

bradamerry
01-31-2005, 08:33 AM
With the cost of diesel now, I would have to stay with gas. I would like to have a F250 w/ the powerstroke diesel, but I will wait until we upgrade the camper in about 5 yrs.

BriEOD
01-31-2005, 08:39 AM
Brad welcome to the 1K post club... :friday:

bradamerry
01-31-2005, 08:54 AM
Brad welcome to the 1K post club... :friday:
Look out Doug, here comes the Wildman ;) !

ski_king
01-31-2005, 09:17 AM
I have been debating this for what seems like forever.
I did on my last truck also and ended up going F-150.

I have priced out a new one's equally equipped with the 5.4 Auto and the 250 is just under $2000 additional.

At this point I am sold on the F-250, if for no ther reason, I like the looks better than the newest generation F-150's.
As far as gas vs. diesel. Before the gas and fuel prices went crazy, I had it figured that it would take about 100,000 miles for the diesel to pay for itself in fuel savings. My guess is that is closer to 130,000 miles now.
As far as 5.4 V8 vs 6.8 V10, while the 360 hp of the V10 sounds tempting, they are a GAS HOG big time.

The interior in the King Ranch is fantastic! Leather seats that are saddle leather quality. (maybe a little too western looking though)

Ben
01-31-2005, 09:19 AM
The diesel is great for towing & doing "truck stuff". For driving around town, not sure if there is a difference (other than it sure sounds cool). I do get around 15-16mpg w/the boat on the highway at speeds higher than I should mention. I think that would be better w/smaller tires (bought used w/315's, will go to 295 or 305's when I replace).

Will diesel continue to stay higher than gas is another good question. Historically, I think it is usually less. Also, you will get a lot more on resale. Look at 2 or 7 year old trucks for example...

We went with the diesel because I felt the '97 351 may be underpowered for a truck of this size, and I didn't want to pour gas into the big block 460. I do think the newer ford 5.4's have good power to them for pulling, especially if all your are towing is a 3500 pound boat. However, if you add 4 people, firewood, coolers, camping stuff, gas cans & who knows what else, the game can change.

Have fun shopping. One important thing is I think the F150 4 door only has the silly little 5 foot (or whatever) bed. To at least get to the 6-1/2 foot range, you need the 250. I think Dodge is onto something there, I have seen 1/2 ton 4 doors w/8' beds. Personal preference maybe, but when I use the truck, I like to have the space.

ski_king
01-31-2005, 09:38 AM
I do tow a 7800 lb. travel trailer a couple of times a year and my current 5.4 does ok. I guess if I had the diesel, I may pull it more than a little more. Bed length dosn't matter to me. 5 1/2 is long enough, 6 1/2 adds a foot to the overall truck length, I cant imagine parallel parking in anything longer than my current supercab short bed. Although my daughter sucessfully parked it in the DOT parallel stall when praticing for her drivers test. (I don't think I could have done that)

jimmer2880
01-31-2005, 11:29 AM
....As far as gas vs. diesel. Before the gas and fuel prices went crazy, I had it figured that it would take about 100,000 miles for the diesel to pay for itself in fuel savings. My guess is that is closer to 130,000 miles now......

Did you figure in the MUCH higher oil change prices? I'm not sure about the 2004 models, but my 99 Powerstroke used 15 quarts of oil that still needed to be changed at 5,000 miles. To pay to change your oil, you're looking at $50.00 per change (I'm not making this number up - that's the cheapest I could find) compared to $15.00 for a typical gas v8.

Granted that cost difference greatly decreases if you do you own oil changes, but most people don't. I figured it would take 300,000 miles to pay for the diesel, which was an additional $4,000 option in '99.

I also found that in the warmer months, diesel was 10 cents a gallon cheaper than 87 octane, but 10 cents higher than 93 octane in the colder months.

The replacement to that truck for me, was a Gas truck. Much easier to work on and costs less to run than my PowerStroke.

ski_king
01-31-2005, 01:06 PM
Since this thread is about tow vechicles, I saw this on Ebay and thought it should be posted here.
May be fun backing down a tight ramp.

Mag_Red
01-31-2005, 01:13 PM
Might not be that bad with the rear view camera.

AirJunky
01-31-2005, 01:23 PM
Since this thread is about tow vechicles, I saw this on Ebay and thought it should be posted here.
May be fun backing down a tight ramp.

I have a ski buddy who has a similar rig, but he tows a 23' VLX. He installed a reciever in the front bumper of the RV, which made it 1000 times easier on the smaller ramps.

Seen this baby yet?
Adrenaline Watersport's 911 rig (http://www.waterskideals.com/Gallery.aspx?ID=5&p=37)

ski_king
01-31-2005, 01:34 PM
Seen this baby yet?
Adrenaline Watersport's 911 rig (http://www.waterskideals.com/Gallery.aspx?ID=5&p=37)
I am sure haveing an ambulane for a tow vehicle comes in handy at times for extreme watersports! :headbang:

AirJunky
01-31-2005, 01:39 PM
Hehe, not to mention the tailgate parties at the ramp. Wonder what all those cabinets are full of in that rig!

jimmer2880
02-01-2005, 05:54 AM
Since this thread is about tow vechicles, I saw this on Ebay and thought it should be posted here.
May be fun backing down a tight ramp.

Growing up, my family had a 33' motor home & a boat. Hitch on the front was MANDATORY for putting the boat down the ramp. As far as over the road goes, nothing could touch it.

Some day, when I grow up :purplaugh , I want my family to have those kind of memories. If only we hadn't gotten rid of the motor home....

PeteS
02-01-2005, 09:24 AM
The answer to my question could be someplace on this thread, but unfortunately I don't think I'm going to pick through it -- sorry guys.

I have a '04 Grand Prix, an '88 PS 190, and it's a new concrete boat ramp with traction grooves. Will my front wheel drive car "hook-up" enough to pull the boat out of the water?

At 200 HP, I don't think power will be an issue. To me it's the weight of the boat on the rear end of a front wheel drive car, traction basically. What do you guys think?

I'm sure if there was a hitch on the front, we'd be fine, but that'd mean I'd have to put a hitch on the front and rear of the vehicle. Thanks a million!

ski_king
02-01-2005, 09:39 AM
I have a '04 Grand Prix, an '88 PS 190, and it's a new concrete boat ramp with traction grooves. Will my front wheel drive car "hook-up" enough to pull the boat out of the water?
!
Depends on how steep the ramp is, but if it is wet, (and they always are wet uless you are first to pull out) I think you will have a problem.

PeteS
02-01-2005, 09:47 AM
The grade of the ramp is moderate, and I know that isn't a very precise measurement. It isn't excessively steep or flat.

The ramp most likely will be wet when the boat is removed, and I just found out they don't make a front mounted hitch for my car. So is the general feeling negative?

ski_king
02-01-2005, 09:57 AM
My guess is you have a 50% chance of getting it out easy.

I had a simular problem for a few years when I was truckless. I would launch the boat with my little Suburu, but always borrow somebodys truck to pull it back out. (The Suburu's problem was power, not traction)

But then again, my ramp is steep and the trailer would drop off the end of the concrete.

speckeen
02-01-2005, 09:59 AM
I have occationally pulled my '86 Prostar 190 out on ramps that have a moderate incline with a front wheel drive Dodge grand caravan. Had no problem. There really isn't much tongue weight.

Mag_Red
02-01-2005, 10:04 AM
You want to see a STEEP ramp????? This one is a bear :eek: , especially after a nice rain! I actually saw a 25' cruiser drag a Ford F-250, 4X4, down the hill when he lost traction. Scariest thing I ever saw! And I was the next one out :steering:

PeteS
02-01-2005, 10:06 AM
Very interesting, thanks for your help. Was your Suburu front, rear, or all-wheel drive?

And that's a good also a very good point about borrowing someones vehicle, I just could have to get it out of the water and then I'd be fine. Although I'm sure after a few times of that routine it'd get a little old. Thanks again.

ski_king
02-01-2005, 10:16 AM
The Suburu was 4WD. It had a weak 1600 cc engine, but loads of traction. I only used it to move the boat around at camp and launch it when I couldn't borrow a truck. (when you want to ski, you will do most anything). I had back down the ramp perfectly because there was no way I was going to pull back up to get straightened out.

I never towed the boat on the road with the Suburu.
I don't think I would want to pull your boat on the road with the Grand Prix. I would want something bigger. Does you trailer have brakes? My 82 does not and even with my truck, it can be a handfull stopping on a wet road.

PeteS
02-01-2005, 10:45 AM
More great info, thanks Powerslot.

My GP will just be pulling the boat from my house to the launch, with is maybe a half mile through the sub. I don't think I'll venture on the main roads with my car & boat, I just need to get it up and down the launch, and back to my house.

Speckeen offered some reassuring information regarding his experiences with his FWD vehicle, let's hope mine behaves the same!

jimmer2880
02-01-2005, 11:17 AM
I saw a SNOW PLOW on the front of a Subaru... I'm sure somebody can weld a hitch to the frone of a GP. you just need to find the right redneck for the job.

PeteS
02-01-2005, 11:20 AM
Hmmmm... Good point Jimmer! I wonder if I can manuver my way through the sub in REVERSE :steering: !

Ben
02-01-2005, 11:48 AM
Pete,
We know someone that uses a honda minivan to tow their 205 all over the place, in addition to in/out of the water w/o problems. With the HP you mentioned, you probably have a V-6 in the car, which should be plenty of weight on the front tires to get you up the ramp. Plus, if it is a subdivision launch (private), that may reduce the possibility of it being wet.
If in doubt, let me know when you plan your trial run, so we can be spectators, with the truck & strap nearby to help.
Funny story / thread hijack, since we're way off topic anyway: Had to pull a guy up the ramp this summer up north. He had his front tires stuck in the sand at the end of the ramp, he was "washing" them off after running over a skunk....

PeteS
02-01-2005, 12:12 PM
My main man Ben, always there with info and willingness to help. I'm going to owe you a kidney after the time you've put into my constant stream of problems!

Thanks a million, we'll strap a hitch on this Grand Prix and see what she can do. It's a 3.8L V-6 up front, which probably weighs in at a good amount like you had suggested. Don't know if the block is aluminum or steel, but it's a good sized motor. Talk to you soon.

ski36short
02-01-2005, 02:03 PM
Hey Pete last spring I saw some guys at the gas station pulling a Sunsetter with a GP coupe. Obviously can't say how they did at the ramp but the GP moved that tub so you might be OK...

Leroy
02-01-2005, 02:30 PM
My Honda Odyssey has 235HP and my LX470 has 230HP.......wife has more HP than me.

NSXBill
02-01-2005, 03:18 PM
Thought I'd throw this in the mix. It was in last year's thread...

mitch
02-01-2005, 04:05 PM
I remember that pic Bill

ski_king
02-01-2005, 07:45 PM
My F-150 pulling something besides the boat.

Ryan
02-01-2005, 11:24 PM
Hey NSXBill,

How does your MDX do towing up hills?

Ryan
02-03-2005, 01:09 AM
I wish this had MC all over it, but it's still one of the coolest tow vehicles ever! Painted tribal flames, in-dash DVD, and best of all a freakin' tower! Now come on, how many trucks have you ever seen with a wakeboard tower? That is awseome. It belongs to the local MB Boats dealer.

I sure wish the pics were better. That's the best my little pocket PC will do.

Ryan
02-03-2005, 01:10 AM
. pic

Ryan
02-03-2005, 01:11 AM
Ok, part of a tower...for a spoiler look.

jimmer2880
02-03-2005, 06:17 AM
Ok, part of a tower...for a spoiler look.

Ok - someone has WAY too much money...

Awsome truck - but... why?

Professor
02-03-2005, 08:11 AM
I wish this had MC all over it, but it's still one of the coolest tow vehicles ever! Painted tribal flames, in-dash DVD, and best of all a freakin' tower! Now come on, how many trucks have you ever seen with a wakeboard tower? That is awseome. It belongs to the local MB Boats dealer.

I sure wish the pics were better. That's the best my little pocket PC will do.
Ryan, I HAVE to agree. That is one cool truck!

tex
02-03-2005, 09:21 AM
Wow-The wife and I haver started mulling over buying a new tow vehicle. I want a truck, she an SUV. I started checking the web yesterday and the sticker shock is way over the top. Everything I looked at was 40k or above!!!!! Any suggestions. I want 4x4 and v-8 with 4 doors.

Ryan
02-03-2005, 10:33 AM
4Runners and Explorers can be had with a V8 for around $30k. I obviously recomend the more powerful 4Runner.

Mag_Red
02-03-2005, 10:48 AM
Wow-The wife and I haver started mulling over buying a new tow vehicle. I want a truck, she an SUV. I started checking the web yesterday and the sticker shock is way over the top. Everything I looked at was 40k or above!!!!! Any suggestions. I want 4x4 and v-8 with 4 doors. I agree about the insane prices. Check cars.com for used vehicles in your area. Let some one else take the depreciation.

sfitzgerald351
02-03-2005, 11:25 AM
I was thinking about replacing my 1992 Bronco this year since I'm coming up on 200,000 miles and more and more things need fixing. Then I looked at new prices. I can put a new engine or transmission in my truck every year for less $$ than I would spend on payments on a new truck. The truck still runs great but is starting to rust and rattle a bit. But as far as I'm concerned I'll just turn up the radio and save myself $600 per month.

jake
02-09-2005, 09:14 AM
Just picked up a Nissan Armada, this new Nissan V-8 has received rave reviews with 320hp and 385 lb-ft of torque.

Anyone else towing with an Armada or a Titan? What's your experience?

milkmania
02-09-2005, 12:56 PM
I woould love to have one of these suburbans / panel trucks!!!!!!

http://groups.msn.com/19601966suburbancarryallandpaneltrucks/theykeepontickin.msnw

my childhood memory was my Grandpa taking me to my swimming lessons in his old panel bread truck.
He'd wrap burritos in aluminum foil, pop them on the intake while I was taking lessons, when the lessons were over, the burritos were done.


.....I miss my Grandpa

JEREMY79
02-22-2005, 10:46 PM
I'll bring this thread back up. I bought a "new" (new to me) tow vehicle today.
'97 chevy 4x4
350 4" suspension lift
35" tires.
I will post some pics tomorrow evening..

NSXBill
02-23-2005, 11:09 AM
Hey NSXBill,

How does your MDX do towing up hills?
I had a tough time deciding if the MDX would be enough to pull even my old ski boat. At the time of my MDX purchase, I had a lighter, smaller, older tournament inboard. I figured my 209 was only about 500 lbs more, but it is much more massive.

I wanted a vehicle for my wife and kids to use daily, to take our family vacations, and also to pull the boat. We pull the boat less often and for shorter distances than any of those other things, so the compromise is good.

Bottom line, for occasional use (once per week ~25 mi each in summer + a few longer 100+ mi trips per year) our MDX has worked out extremely well. We take the boat camping with a full boat and MDX and it does pretty well. It may struggle a little up long, steep grades. But like I said, for our use, it is an excellent compromise.

boatwake
02-24-2005, 05:46 PM
My 3-wheeler probably doesn't have the HP that you are used to, but it'll "GET HER DONE"! Sorry, I couldn't resist.

We have a 90 degree garage that is impossible to use the truck to move the boat. It took four strong people and a half hour to maneuver our loaded tandem trailer into or out of the garage. After doing it twice, I decided either I was going the find a better solution or the boat was going to stay outside. Well I'm here to tell you the boat wasn't going to stay outside so I got busy and found a solution. Actually, it solved my second problem as well. Even with my tower folded down the only way to get the boat through the garage door was to drop the tongue. This problem was solved by the drop in the arm from the dolly. This combo works great. I can move the boat in or out one handed in just a couple minutes. I found the dolly at http://www.powermoverinc.net and worked with them on the right drop for the arm. The unit isnít cheap, but well worth the $$$ to me.

Andrť
02-24-2005, 05:50 PM
Very nice set up boatwake!

MarkP
02-24-2005, 06:08 PM
Dam you boatwake!! You just made my wish list a bit longer. Nice dolly.

BriEOD
02-24-2005, 06:10 PM
Brillant! :D

boatwake
02-24-2005, 06:22 PM
One work of wisdom "keep the cord away from the wheels". Learned the hard way the first time I used it :o . Note the splice and electrical tape.

ski_king
02-25-2005, 02:47 PM
Well, its not my truck, at least yet.
I got a bid in on this one. It will be my long term "project" truck. Planning a hot rod type restoration.
55 F-100

MarkP
02-25-2005, 03:08 PM
Great. Thats an old Ford?? What year?

jayderwin1
02-25-2005, 03:27 PM
sweet truck powerslot