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Gozar
03-29-2007, 01:36 PM
http://www.corvetteforum.net/c4/chrismaynard/2500-1.jpg

http://www.corvetteforum.net/c4/chrismaynard/2500-2.jpg

My 06 Silverado 1500 just struggled too much pulling the X2. I even had the L33 engine in it but it was gonna rip that tranny out with the amount of towing I do.

So...in comes an 07 2500 Duramax 6.6 Diesel with 360hp and 650trq. :cool:

No problems towing anymore.

Maristar210
03-29-2007, 01:38 PM
As the late Chris Farley said:

"Well la de frickin da"

Nice truck Gozar. Club cab Chevy Diesel and a brand new X2, life is good in cali:D

Gozar
03-29-2007, 01:43 PM
As the late Chris Farley said:

"Well la de frickin da"

Nice truck Gozar. Club cab Chevy Diesel and a brand new X2, life is good in cali:D

:purplaugh I can't complain but I can say for sure life wasn't always this good. Lots of older boats with issues and older vehicles with more issues before I could actually afford the shiny stuff.

Ric
03-29-2007, 01:45 PM
NICE

hey what setup was in the 06 1500? Alotta talk on here about the z71 offering of 5.3/3.42 gears and wondering if that is what you had?

Gozar
03-29-2007, 01:53 PM
NICE

hey what setup was in the 06 1500? Alotta talk on here about the z71 offering of 5.3/3.42 gears and wondering if that is what you had?

I had the L33 5.3 liter all aluminum V8. 310hp and 335trq. I also had the locking differential 3.73 gears I "think".

It would constantly have to downshift when towing at 60mph. 65mph was better unless you hit any sort of grade. Also when it shifted the whole truck would shutter under the heavy load.

I am not saying it couldn't do it but I tow every weekend sometimes twice and there are a ton of mountains and hills around here.

Ric
03-29-2007, 01:54 PM
That does sound like the common complaint. I cannot believe the bowtie offered up such a "truck" either
betcha you gonna be happy with that HD!!!

Datdude
03-29-2007, 01:58 PM
Congrats on the new ride. I have the same truck but an 06. The Duramax LBZ is a nice quiet motor with tons of power. My only complaint is the bad mileage I get. I only have 14,000 miles and I have heard at 25,000 things get better. Enjoy!

Check out www.dieselplace.com if you have any questions about the truck. It is a great site full of nice people......kinda like this place:cool:

Maristar210
03-29-2007, 02:07 PM
I had the L33 5.3 liter all aluminum V8. 310hp and 335trq. I also had the locking differential 3.73 gears I "think".

It would constantly have to downshift when towing at 60mph. 65mph was better unless you hit any sort of grade. Also when it shifted the whole truck would shutter under the heavy load.

I am not saying it couldn't do it but I tow every weekend sometimes twice and there are a ton of mountains and hills around here.


What you describe is exactly my truck while pulling my 210. Thankfully I only tow it to the end of the street.

Nice setup!!!!

duckguy
03-29-2007, 04:48 PM
Looks like yours truly

TMCNo1
03-29-2007, 05:00 PM
As the late Chris Farley said:

"Well la de frickin da"

Nice truck Gozar. Club cab Chevy Diesel and a brand new X2, life is good in cali:D


Here ya go,

Maristar210
03-29-2007, 05:21 PM
Looks like your truly


DUCK

Are those BFG Mud TA's loud on the highway or no too bad?

Gozar
03-29-2007, 05:43 PM
Looks like yours truly

OMG! I cloned your truck! :uglyhamme

TX.X-30 fan
03-29-2007, 07:03 PM
Same truck in the 02 version. :D Pulls like a beast. :D



20320

duckguy
03-29-2007, 07:42 PM
They switched mine the day I picked it up to the AT's. The muds were loud and who needs that. The AT's look sweet and wear like iron. The 245's ore stock and I think they look horrible. Mine are 265's by the way.

Workin' 4 Toys
03-30-2007, 10:02 AM
My 06 Silverado 1500 just struggled too much pulling the X2. I even had the L33 engine in it but it was gonna rip that tranny out with the amount of towing I do.

So...in comes an 07 2500 Duramax 6.6 Diesel with 360hp and 650trq. :cool:

No problems towing anymore.
Sweet!!!:cool:

Jkelly
03-30-2007, 10:13 AM
Nice Truck

jenglin
03-30-2007, 01:20 PM
Just My Opinion!!!

Nice truck by the way, but were you pulling the boat in "D" or in "3rd" which was causing the shifting. Don't know much about the weight difference b/w models but I pull my 88 TriStar (single axle) in "3rd" and still get b/w 13-14mpg. I thought that was great. Now there could be quite a bit of weight difference b/w the two, I don't know. I have pulled a hell of a lot of stuff (tractors, etc) with my '03 1/2 ton GMC and haven't had any problems.

"As my pappy always said, "You'll burn up a tranney a hell of a lot faster then you'll burn up a motor." So that's why I just put it in 3rd and GO! Gas is a hell of a lot cheaper then a new tranney.

Gozar
03-30-2007, 03:12 PM
Just My Opinion!!!

Nice truck by the way, but were you pulling the boat in "D" or in "3rd" which was causing the shifting. Don't know much about the weight difference b/w models but I pull my 88 TriStar (single axle) in "3rd" and still get b/w 13-14mpg. I thought that was great. Now there could be quite a bit of weight difference b/w the two, I don't know. I have pulled a hell of a lot of stuff (tractors, etc) with my '03 1/2 ton GMC and haven't had any problems.

"As my pappy always said, "You'll burn up a tranney a hell of a lot faster then you'll burn up a motor." So that's why I just put it in 3rd and GO! Gas is a hell of a lot cheaper then a new tranney.

I understand what you are saying but running the motor at 3600rpm going for 90 miles a shot can't be exactly healthy for it.

Like I said, I am sure my truck could have done it and my Tahoe will have to on occasion (when we have more than 6 people going) but I figured why not just get whatever it takes and not worry about it.

jenglin
03-30-2007, 03:22 PM
I can definitely understand and can respect that. Peace of mind is sometimes priceless!

wgwollet
03-30-2007, 03:27 PM
I have a 2003 Chevy ext cab with a 5.3L 3.73 (standard rear) Z71. It tows my 2002 MC 230 like a rag doll. I tow all around Tenn hills with no problems. Plus unloaded I get about 18mpg, don't need all that muscle and costs, remember the boat gets towed very little compared to how much the truck is driven unloaded. So don't get all hung up on these monster trucks with gas and diesel here at about $2.75/gallon+. Remember when Dad pulled a wooden Chris Craft with a Ford station wagon to the lake...we did OK.

Ric
03-30-2007, 03:59 PM
I have a 2003 Chevy ext cab with a 5.3L 3.73 (standard rear) Z71. It tows my 2002 MC 230 like a rag doll. I tow all around Tenn hills with no problems. Plus unloaded I get about 18mpg, don't need all that muscle and costs, remember the boat gets towed very little compared to how much the truck is driven unloaded. So don't get all hung up on these monster trucks with gas and diesel here at about $2.75/gallon+. Remember when Dad pulled a wooden Chris Craft with a Ford station wagon to the lake...we did OK. OK bowtie must have only dropped the 3.73 gear combined with the 5.3 for 05/06 models or something???

wgwollet
03-30-2007, 05:07 PM
Ya Ric....I am a big GM guy and in 2003 the 3.73 was standard with the 5.3L. But my 1998 5.7L had a 3.42 as the standard rear end.

My theory is the 5.3 has less torque then the 5.7 but more HP so the changed rear ends helped the 5.3 in the needed pulling.......I still like the 5.7 engine for pulling.......

Gozar
03-30-2007, 05:23 PM
I have a 2003 Chevy ext cab with a 5.3L 3.73 (standard rear) Z71. It tows my 2002 MC 230 like a rag doll. I tow all around Tenn hills with no problems. Plus unloaded I get about 18mpg, don't need all that muscle and costs, remember the boat gets towed very little compared to how much the truck is driven unloaded. So don't get all hung up on these monster trucks with gas and diesel here at about $2.75/gallon+. Remember when Dad pulled a wooden Chris Craft with a Ford station wagon to the lake...we did OK.

Gas around here is $3.25 a gallon and diesel is $2.99. :D

18mpg is common in diesels unloaded. When they tow it only goes down a few miles to the gallon.

It isn't about doing OK. It is about doing it great! I am sure an old Bayliner can tow a wakeboarder OK...but we purchased MCs for a reason didn't we?

jenglin
03-30-2007, 05:24 PM
The guys w/ the Bowties/GMC's (newer models) do you pull your boats in "D", "D" w/ the tow button engaged, or just in "3rd"? I tried to pull my boat in "D" w/ the tow button engaged, but I still shifted quite a bite (more then I liked) so last weekend I pulled it for 2.5 hrs in "3rd" running 2500-2600rpms and still got 13-14mpg running 60-65mph. Like I said b/4 I thought that was pretty good. I'd rather spend the extra money on gas then on a new transmission.

bigmac
03-30-2007, 05:41 PM
The guys w/ the Bowties/GMC's (newer models) do you pull your boats in "D", "D" w/ the tow button engaged, or just in "3rd"? I tried to pull my boat in "D" w/ the tow button engaged, but I still shifted quite a bite (more then I liked) so last weekend I pulled it for 2.5 hrs in "3rd" running 2500-2600rpms and still got 13-14mpg running 60-65mph. Like I said b/4 I thought that was pretty good. I'd rather spend the extra money on gas then on a new transmission.Pull in 3rd, IMHO with tow/haul mode engaged. In Drive, even though it may not be shifting, the torque converter is still locking/unlocking, which is hard on the tranny.

Ric
03-30-2007, 05:45 PM
The guys w/ the Bowties/GMC's (newer models) do you pull your boats in "D", "D" w/ the tow button engaged, or just in "3rd"? I tried to pull my boat in "D" w/ the tow button engaged, but I still shifted quite a bite (more then I liked) so last weekend I pulled it for 2.5 hrs in "3rd" running 2500-2600rpms and still got 13-14mpg running 60-65mph. Like I said b/4 I thought that was pretty good. I'd rather spend the extra money on gas then on a new transmission. Well I'm on my second chivvy 6.0L/3.73 combination tallying 150k miles so far and have only towed in D and tow haul mode... never tried the third gear thang.... knock wood:cool:

bigmac
03-30-2007, 05:48 PM
I have a 2003 Chevy ext cab with a 5.3L 3.73 (standard rear) Z71. It tows my 2002 MC 230 like a rag doll. I tow all around Tenn hills with no problems. Plus unloaded I get about 18mpg, don't need all that muscle and costs, remember the boat gets towed very little compared to how much the truck is driven unloaded. So don't get all hung up on these monster trucks with gas and diesel here at about $2.75/gallon+. Remember when Dad pulled a wooden Chris Craft with a Ford station wagon to the lake...we did OK.I agree completely - thank you for saying that...I was afraid I had some kind of testosterone deficiency compared to so many here on Team Talk, because I think anything bigger than my 2006 Sierra with 3.42 for hauling these little boats of ours is a waste of money and gasoline.

Ric
03-30-2007, 05:50 PM
I agree completely - thank you for saying that...I was afraid I had some kind of testosterone deficiency compared to so many here on Team Talk, because I think anything bigger than my 2006 Sierra with 3.42 for hauling these little boats of ours is a waste of money and gasoline. as long as you pull in third you are ok girlieman:D

bigmac
03-30-2007, 05:54 PM
as long as you pull in third you are ok girlieman:D

150k, huh? I'll bet that thing fries in the next 5000 miles. THEN we'll see which of us is the girl....


(hmmm):D

Ric
03-30-2007, 05:56 PM
150k, huh? I'll bet that thing fries in the next 5000 miles. THEN we'll see which of us is the girl....


(hmmm):D maybe you should try second if third works so well8p

jenglin
03-30-2007, 06:04 PM
My dad runs his in "3rd" pulling his boat 12 hrs one way twice a year up to North Dakota on a fishing trip and pulls his 20ft enclosed construction trailer daily, and he has a 98 1/2 ton Chevy w/ 230k on it and it's still running strong. He says it's the best truck he has ever owned. It basically boils down to how hard you drive the trucks.

Gozar
03-30-2007, 06:11 PM
I didn't mean this to be a ***** length contest.

If you are happy towing your boats with your trucks then fantastic.

I have been towing boats since I could drive and this new truck does it better than any of my previous vehicles.

I never said 1/2 ton gassers couldn't tow! Your manhood wasn't challenged. :purplaugh

jenglin
03-30-2007, 06:15 PM
What kind of mileage do you get a a 3/4 ton diesel? Loaded and Unloaded?

Gozar
03-30-2007, 06:25 PM
What kind of mileage do you get a a 3/4 ton diesel? Loaded and Unloaded?

I cannot speak from personal experience yet. I did plenty of research and found that most were getting between 15 and 18mpg unloaded and around 13mpg towing.

Thrall
03-30-2007, 06:31 PM
What I used to tow with.

Thrall
03-30-2007, 06:33 PM
What I pull with now! Night and day difference. The ole' DMax will pull 8% grades in overdrive w/ the boat in tow and the EGT's never get over 1200....not even breaking a sweat!

bigmac
03-30-2007, 06:43 PM
I didn't mean this to be a ***** length contest.

If you are happy towing your boats with your trucks then fantastic.

I have been towing boats since I could drive and this new truck does it better than any of my previous vehicles.

I never said 1/2 ton gassers couldn't tow! Your manhood wasn't challenged. :purplaughFirst of all, we're just joking around. Second, these tow vehicle questions come up about once a week on this and other boating forums and I observe that the quad-cab, 9 liter double-turbocharged monster truck to pull our little 3000 lb boats seems to be espoused as increasingly mandatory. I find it amusing, but when I say my manhood is threatened, I'm just kidding.

No, really...I am. Just kidding. Really.

Gozar
03-30-2007, 06:50 PM
First of all, we're just joking around. Second, these tow vehicle questions come up about once a week on this and other boating forums and I observe that the quad-cab, 9 liter double-turbocharged monster truck to pull our little 3000 lb boats seems to be espoused as increasingly mandatory. I find it amusing, but when I say my manhood is threatened, I'm just kidding.

No, really...I am. Just kidding. Really.

Actually I realized you were kidding. :D It just seems others seem to judge and make statements that the underlying message was, "you are an idiot, you don't need that truck to tow your boat! My grandfather towed his 30' Wellcraft with a 240Z!"

bigmac
03-30-2007, 06:54 PM
This is my next truck, I decided...it has nothing to do with testosterone. Really.

http://mccollister.info/CXT-4.JPG

jenglin
03-30-2007, 06:59 PM
I myself find it funnier then s**t how such a simple topic can get turned into a pi**ing contest. I was just wondering how other people tow there boats and what kind of luck they have with it. That's it!

If I had the money I would probably have a 3/4 diesel, just because I like diesels. I had an old 82 GMC 6.2L Diesel 4x4 and loved it. I just couldn't keep the rust off of it no matter how many times I washed it and took it to the body shop, it always found a way to rust.

Anyway, Congrats on the new Truck and thank god you didn't get a blue oval (Ford) jk!;)

bigmac
03-30-2007, 07:26 PM
Anyway, Congrats on the new Truck and thank god you didn't get a blue oval (Ford) jk!;)

Heh heh...you were wondering how a topic like tow vehicles could turn into a pi$$ing contest?;)

Mag_Red
03-30-2007, 08:33 PM
I myself find it funnier then s**t how such a simple topic can get turned into a pi**ing contest. I was just wondering how other people tow there boats and what kind of luck they have with it. That's it!

If I had the money I would probably have a 3/4 diesel, just because I like diesels. I had an old 82 GMC 6.2L Diesel 4x4 and loved it. I just couldn't keep the rust off of it no matter how many times I washed it and took it to the body shop, it always found a way to rust.

Anyway, Congrats on the new Truck and thank god you didn't get a blue oval (Ford) jk!;) I'll say it again.......My FX4 is the best gas tow vehicle I've driven....never downshifts on a hill, no matter the speed, which is generally between 75-85. Rides like a Lincoln, quiet as a mouse. My Chevy would constantly down shift......not hold a gear....and down shift again. And that's with the 3.73. I will say I've had 146,000 trouble free miles expect for a small pin hole in the transfer case.

Ric
03-31-2007, 08:11 AM
This is my next truck, I decided...it has nothing to do with testosterone. Really.

http://mccollister.info/CXT-4.JPG I see no reason to haul four wheelers around in something with such a small cargo bed

Ric
03-31-2007, 08:12 AM
I'll say it again.......My FX4 is the best gas tow vehicle I've driven....never downshifts on a hill, no matter the speed, which is generally between 75-85. Rides like a Lincoln, quiet as a mouse. My Chevy would constantly down shift......not hold a gear....and down shift again. And that's with the 3.73. I will say I've had 146,000 trouble free miles expect for a small pin hole in the transfer case. oh and uh jenglen.... the f'd guys get really defensive;)