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lassy
03-26-2007, 11:45 PM
so it's time to change some fluids, but my progress was severely slowed due to the fact that the oil drain line won't reach out of the rear drain hole. why would this be so short?

i fashioned up an extension that i can leave attached or just store away for the next time........BUT STILL

haha.....anyone else have this problem? the drain line is suppose to reach out of the rear bilge drain plug hole....right? i'm not a complete idiot am i?

Leroy
03-27-2007, 12:04 AM
That is the way mine works, you are right.

Do you have a center drain and will it reach out the center drain?

erkoehler
03-27-2007, 12:07 AM
If you have a pump to suck out the oil, that will work out the easiest. You can have only the oil out in a matter of seconds. No mess, no spilling, no extensions, and its fast!

JKTX21
03-27-2007, 12:44 AM
I agree with Erk.

bigmac
03-27-2007, 01:02 AM
so it's time to change some fluids, but my progress was severely slowed due to the fact that the oil drain line won't reach out of the rear drain hole. why would this be so short?

i fashioned up an extension that i can leave attached or just store away for the next time........BUT STILL

haha.....anyone else have this problem? the drain line is suppose to reach out of the rear bilge drain plug hole....right? i'm not a complete idiot am i?
Same problem here, but it doesn't really matter that I can't get it out the rear drain plug -- the rear transverse transom stringer blocks the fitting anyway, so the hose won't fit through it.

We probably expect too much in the way of design and engineering execution given what we pay for these boats. I do agree with Erk that the best way to change to oil is to hook up the vacuum extractor to that hose, though.

ksmaristar91
03-27-2007, 08:15 AM
When you say pump do you mean the dipstick kind? If so do the ones in Barts or Boaters world work? Just thinking about changing mine when it gets out of the interior shop.

bigmac
03-27-2007, 08:22 AM
When you say pump do you mean the dipstick kind? If so do the ones in Barts or Boaters world work? Just thinking about changing mine when it gets out of the interior shop.I hook up my Pela oil extractor (http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?r=view&i=27266&aID=24A&cname=Oil-Changers-/-Filters&pdesc=Pela_Oil_Extractor_6_liter)to the drain hose and change the oil that way - usually in my boat lift after a run to get the temp up.

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Also popular are these things... (http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?r=view&i=24770&aID=24A&cname=Oil-Changers-/-Filters&pdesc=Marina_Pro_Oil_Changer)

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ksmaristar91
03-27-2007, 08:32 AM
Ok, so my oil line has a brass fitting on the end, does this screw directly to it? On the dipstick method, what do you do for vaccum on the motor (PVC valve)?? Thanks

djhuff
03-27-2007, 08:40 AM
My 03 had that problem, now my 06, the hose comes almost to the ground.

bigmac
03-27-2007, 09:54 AM
Ok, so my oil line has a brass fitting on the end, does this screw directly to it? On the dipstick method, what do you do for vaccum on the motor (PVC valve)?? Thanks

The extractor is a hand pump that establishes a vacuum in the chamber. For those that don't want to pump, there are electric oil-pumper-outers (http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/catalog.cgi) that attach to the battery. As to fittings, I spent about $5 at the hardware store picking through the brass fittings bins until I found the pieces I needed that fit into the hose and screwed onto the boat's brass fitting.

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I'm leery of the dipstick method. I've read two episodes on other boating forums where guys got the tubing from the pump stuck in the dipstick hole. One of them finally muscled his out only to find a piece had been left behind in the oil pan. That was on a Monsoon engine, which is basically identical to the MasterCraft MCX. Besides, the supplied rubber hose, while often too short, is at least connected to the lowest point of the oil pan. It would be dumb not to use it. In fact, if the boat doesn't have such a rubber hose attached to the oil pan drain, it would be very smart to attach one. They're readily available and cheap. (http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?r=view&i=30334&aID=24A&cname=Oil-Changers-/-Filters&pdesc=Oil_Drain_Kit_12mm_x_1_75_thread_size_for_96 _newer_Chevy_350_454_engines_replacement_oil_pans)
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Sodar
03-27-2007, 10:16 AM
I'm leery of the dipstick method. I've read two episodes on other boating forums where guys got the tubing from the pump stuck in the dipstick hole. One of them finally muscled his out only to find a piece had been left behind in the oil pan. That was on a Monsoon engine, which is basically identical to the MasterCraft MCX. Besides, the supplied rubber hose, while often too short, is at least connected to the lowest point of the oil pan. It would be dumb not to use it. In fact, if the boat doesn't have such a rubber hose attached to the oil pan drain, it would be very smart to attach one.

One of my local X-brand dealerships uses a commercial version of the vacuum fluid extractors that you mentioned, and rather than using the supplied plastic tube to slide down the dipstick tube, they just used the dipstick tube itself to suck the oil out. Does the dipstick tube enter the oil pan at a low enough location, to have the ability to suck all the oil out of the pan?

Jesus_Freak
03-27-2007, 10:19 AM
One of my local X-brand dealerships uses a commercial version of the vacuum fluid extractors that you mentioned, and rather than using the supplied plastic tube to slide down the dipstick tube, they just used the dipstick tube itself to suck the oil out. Does the dipstick tube enter the oil pan at a low enough location, to have the ability to suck all the oil out of the pan?

Nope.......not on your boat.

bigmac
03-27-2007, 10:28 AM
One of my local X-brand dealerships uses a commercial version of the vacuum fluid extractors that you mentioned, and rather than using the supplied plastic tube to slide down the dipstick tube, they just used the dipstick tube itself to suck the oil out. Does the dipstick tube enter the oil pan at a low enough location, to have the ability to suck all the oil out of the pan?Sometimes yes. On those dipsticks that go all the way down, however, there will be a fitting on the end of the tube that looks like a male garden hose fitting. The pump is screwed onto it. My Yamaha 350 I/O is like that.

Sodar
03-27-2007, 10:32 AM
Sometimes yes. On those dipsticks that go all the way down, however, there will be a fitting on the end of the tube that looks like a male garden hose fitting. The pump is screwed onto it. My Yamaha 350 I/O is like that.

You had a Yamaha Small Block? I did not know Yamaha made any watercraft motors, other than PWC motors and outboards...

bigmac
03-27-2007, 10:40 AM
You had a Yamaha Small Block? I did not know Yamaha made any watercraft motors, other than PWC motors and outboards...
They did up until about 1998, along with a very high quality stern drive unit. It was based on the Chevy 350 and was a really excellent marinization. Mine was carburetted, but my partner still has the EFI/digital version. Bullet-proof.

cst573
03-27-2007, 03:48 PM
I have my drain line tie wrapped and sticking straight up towards the top of the engine. I use a pump to extract the oil and it is quick and makes no mess.