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sizzler
03-05-2007, 08:45 AM
Had one of welds on my tower crack last year.......had it repaired by MC.....good job.......went out on saturday and found another one on the same side just above the new weld........i do have a tower boom..anyone else had these problems with their towers....i feel it may be down to the fact that i have a tower boom......both cracks are on the side of the boom......

Jerseydave
03-05-2007, 09:06 AM
Sorry to hear about your tower.........hopefully someone will chime-in that may have some knowledge about this happening.

You could switch to a standard pylon-mounted boom, right?

sizzler
03-07-2007, 06:46 AM
i am gonna revert back to the pylon based boom......
here is a pic of the newest crack

sizzler
03-07-2007, 06:47 AM
amnyone on here from BAREFOOT INTERNATIONAL got anything???

mitch
03-07-2007, 07:47 AM
i am gonna revert back to the pylon based boom......
here is a pic of the newest crack

That's a nasty crack, good luck- hope it works out for you

sizzler
03-08-2007, 06:14 AM
i have said the same thing to some nasty women

Monte
03-08-2007, 08:54 AM
i am gonna revert back to the pylon based boom......
here is a pic of the newest crack

:eek3: Is there a way to sleeve that area, you'd probably have to do it on both sides just to make it look right. By sleeving I mean a little larger piece of tubing 3-4 inches in length. welded to the bar in stronger areas + getting that crack rewelded...... Just my thoughts....

sizzler
03-13-2007, 11:00 AM
took the boat into the dealer yesterday......i'll let you know what transpires

Prostar19
03-26-2007, 10:31 AM
I talked to Mike Sieple about this and he said "If the cables are tight the towwer mount boom will not cause this to happen. If the cables are loose it could" So be sure your cables are tight!!

sizzler
03-26-2007, 10:47 AM
i appreciate.....but i had the cables tightened to their max.....i did this whilst it was on the trailer so i could get some good leverage......i also peridically checked them for stretching...they had stretched considerably......i am not looking to blame.....its a good design and keeps you from banging your shins/knees inside the boat,but i have seen one weld crack before and now another....i am going old school and reverting back to the pylon based design.........

not looking to deter anyone else here.....but this is my personal preference:twocents:

Prostar19
03-26-2007, 10:55 AM
Thanks for the feedback. I was concerned because I have a tower boom as well and wanted to see wht BI had to say.

sizzler
03-26-2007, 10:58 AM
all i can say is ...put the boom on the boat ,whilst it is on the trailer...this way you can really get the cables tight....

how long have you had it???

Prostar19
03-26-2007, 11:01 AM
This will be my second year and no problems yet. I did the same thing with the cables and got them as tight as possible.

flyingskibiker
03-26-2007, 04:45 PM
i hope they have a welding shop do the welding. aluminum is not easy to weld and should be done by someone who really knows what they are doing. my 2 cents...

prostar205
03-27-2007, 12:19 AM
Sizzler and Prostar19 -

I am looking at buying a tower boom also. It will go onto a 2005 X30 Tower. The only people that will use the boom will be kids 10 years old and under so probably not alot of stress put on the system. However, my boat is moored on a lake on a lift and therefore, I can not put the boom on while it is on the trailer. I will be putting the boom on in the water after I lower the boat in the water. Do either of you guys see an issue with this?

sizzler
03-27-2007, 02:16 AM
i hope they have a welding shop do the welding. aluminum is not easy to weld and should be done by someone who really knows what they are doing. my 2 cents...
they used a specialist welder...top job...no complaints.....

sizzler
03-27-2007, 02:21 AM
Sizzler and Prostar19 -

I am looking at buying a tower boom also. It will go onto a 2005 X30 Tower. The only people that will use the boom will be kids 10 years old and under so probably not alot of stress put on the system. However, my boat is moored on a lake on a lift and therefore, I can not put the boom on while it is on the trailer. I will be putting the boom on in the water after I lower the boat in the water. Do either of you guys see an issue with this?
i can see no issue with this.......i moor up on the drivers side(as most do) so the boom has to go on the passengers side if left on(the wave action would smash the boom into the deck otherwise)....its not a one man job..you have to line up the 3 arms and locate the pins,takes a couple of us to do this.....then the outer boom goes on and then attach the cables to the bow........as i said before......dont want to discourage others from having one.....just posting my experiences.....i hope mine is the only case,and MR Seipel sends me some of his fine merchandise for my troubles:D

FlatBoard
08-01-2009, 09:42 AM
Was going to start a new thread, but found plenty of information already discussed.

Noticed the weld cracked after making a run. Fortunately it did not cause any damage or injury. There is a sleeve at the connection, but I still think there is a chance it could have seperated under the stress of a rider.

Will have the tower repaired and should be good as new.

Any toughts on tower braces for the older style towers?

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/flatboard/Tower2July2009.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/flatboard/TowerJuly2009.jpg

FlatBoard
08-01-2009, 09:44 AM
I should mention - I do not use a boom on my tower.

TX.X-30 fan
08-01-2009, 02:39 PM
Damn right on the weld, just stress over time I guess?? Can be welded and fixed I suppose.

towpilot
08-03-2009, 12:02 PM
my tower cracked on both sides in the same spot and i don't use a boom i think it is stress over time or poor design

mallees
08-03-2009, 09:44 PM
I had the same problem on my 04 X2 and I dont have a boom. I put it down to vibration whilst towing. We had towed the boat about 700 miles for a 2 week holiday, it rained for the first 3 days, so we only got out for short sets. On the 4th day the sun was shining, the river was like glass, and when I was loading the boards into the racks I noticed the crack. I had to find an engineering shop that specialized in aluminium welding, remove the top section of tower, borrow a trailer, drag the trailer though 150 miles of winding roads to the engineering shop, wait whilst they did an ugly but strong weld, drag the trailer back and re-install the tower. We put the boat in the water for a ride 1/2 an hour before dark, success, it all worked.:)

Then it rained again for the next 2 days.:(

engkid_486
09-23-2013, 08:41 AM
I got a crack as well this weekend in my 03 zero flex flyer tower. Looks to be the same failure point as everone else. Do any of y'all know if this material/alloy is 6061 T-6 AL?
Thx

CantRepeat
09-23-2013, 09:28 AM
I would not think so. 6061 T6 doesn't like to bend too much.

engkid_486
09-23-2013, 10:29 AM
Anyone know the alloy of the tubing? I would like to drop it off at my welders shop this week. Trying to squeeze the last bit of riding out of the season

CantRepeat
09-23-2013, 11:48 AM
Your tower was probably made by the guy that owns http://www.newdimensiontowers.com/

You could call and ask him.

engkid_486
09-24-2013, 06:46 AM
Just for info if anyone needs it in the future... taked to Wanye from NDT. The tubing is 6063-T6 aluminum and they use 5356 welding rod (1/8") for the filler material.

CantRepeat
09-24-2013, 09:06 AM
Glad he could help you. Good luck with the repair and if you have time pls post some photos.

It makes sense, 6061 T6 will only bend a few degrees while cold without breaking. If you heat it to bend it then you would lose the T6 heat treatment. I would have thought they were using T4 and not T6.