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shepherd
02-17-2007, 11:34 PM
I found some cool internet radio stations. I'd like to be able to play them on my home stereo. Isn't there some kind of wireless transmitter or something that can send a signal to my home stereo receiver for playback? If so, what would you recommend? Will there be any loss of signal? I don't want to do it unless the sound quality remains good. I could even go with a hardwire connection if that would give better playback.

Leroy
02-17-2007, 11:40 PM
Seems like it should be so simple.

Run a line from headphones to your stereo
There are 900Mhz and 2.4GHz wireless devices that will work, but won't sound as good as running a wire.

I don't know of an easy way to keep it digital.

shepherd
02-17-2007, 11:48 PM
Good idea. I didn't think of that. I guess I'd run a line from the computer's headphone outlet to the stereo's AUX input(?) I'd probably need about 40 or 50 feet of wire though.

MarkP
02-18-2007, 12:01 AM
I found some cool internet radio stations. I'd like to be able to play them on my home stereo. Isn't there some kind of wireless transmitter or something that can send a signal to my home stereo receiver for playback? If so, what would you recommend? Will there be any loss of signal? I don't want to do it unless the sound quality remains good. I could even go with a hardwire connection if that would give better playback.
What kind of Stations?? No Link??

shepherd
02-18-2007, 12:19 AM
http://www.live365.com/index.live

Has pretty much everything you would want to listen to.

A couple of my favorite stations:
http://www.live365.com/stations/dj_ron for great blues
http://www.live365.com/stations/kpri excellent rock radio station from San Diego (though they have commercials).

MarkP
02-18-2007, 12:27 AM
Sweet, Thanks!!
Now we need some wire!!
Iíve always loved the blues.

JimN
02-18-2007, 12:30 AM
Look online for a distribution amp that has a digital audio input/output. CE Labs makes quite a few and IIRC, Parts Express sells them. This will only stay digital if you have an S/PDIF jack on the sound card. If you don't, you can still use the analog inputs/outputs to send the signal to the stereo with minimal loss. This piece does a good job and doesn't introduce noticeable distortion or noise. They have amps that will distribute composite video, component video, S-Video, RF, DVI and HDMI. If you really want to have the best, get a set of media convertors and go with fiber optic. They're really not that much more money.

If the house is fully wired for internet at all locations and there is an unused port near the stereo, you can run the audio and video form the computer to the stereo by using a set of baluns. They have to be used as a set (one on the send end and one at the receive end).

Worst case, if a Cat5e can be run from the computer to the stereo, the audio can be sent that way but if it's analog, you'll lose quite a bit of high frequency content because of the impedance issues that come with long runs from a high impedance input/output. There are baluns for sending analog audio over Cat5e, too. They match the impedances so the loss is minimal.

If the run is less than 50', you can use shielded twisted pair audio cable for this. I'm using Belden mic cable from my computer to the stereo and it sounds good but I'm only going about 20'. If you use this kind of cable, you'll want to leave the shield free at the source end and connect it to the audio negative at the amp end. This will keep the shield from acting as an antenna for hum and any noise picked up will go directly to ground.

mitch
02-18-2007, 12:33 AM
Holy cow Jim, you lost me at distribution amp :)

MarkP
02-18-2007, 12:38 AM
Ok so maybe a little more than a piece of wire but a little less than the f o stuff.. At least its written down so we can read it over til it sinks in..

shepherd
02-18-2007, 12:44 AM
Thanks JimN. Like Mitch, I'm a little confused. Hopefully, when I'm sober tomorrow it will make more sense to me and I'll do some research. I probably should have mentioned that I have an ancient (~20 y.o.) Kenwood stereo receiver. Not sure if that makes a difference (?).

What's a "balun"?

MarkP
02-18-2007, 12:49 AM
What's a "balun"?is a device (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device) designed to convert between balanced (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_line) and unbalanced (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbalanced_line) electrical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric) signals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_%28telecommunication%29), such as between coaxial cable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaxial_cable) and ladder line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladder_line). Baluns can be considered as simple forms of transmission line transformers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer).

Dah:rolleyes:

JimN
02-18-2007, 12:50 AM
Here's one that distributes composite video/analog audio:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2769482&Sku=C184-41067&SRCCODE=YAHOODF&CMP=SPC-YAHOO

and here's one that does component with S/PDIF (digital audio): http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=3104&sku=41105.

MarkP
02-18-2007, 12:50 AM
So, um, can you tell I googled that??:o

JimN
02-18-2007, 12:55 AM
Shepherd- I have Cat5e going to the receiver in my garage and it does lose highs but it's in the garage and I'm usually making noise out there, anyway, so it's not such a big deal. That run is about 80', since the garage is detached but I had the electrician add a run of conduit for low-voltage when he wired the new service. I may/may not use baluns in the future- it does what I wanted. BTW- that receiver is closer to 30 years old but I liked them when I sold that model and when I found this one (literally), I looked like this::woohoo:

shepherd
02-18-2007, 12:56 AM
So, um, can you tell I googled that??:o


Duh, yeah :rolleyes: :D

JimN
02-18-2007, 12:59 AM
That's what google is for. I use it all the time. I took a computer networking class last fall and had to do a report on RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) and the research took very little time- save a set of links and open a Word document so I could copy and paste. There was no reason to re-write everything so I dragged and dropped what I wanted to use and had a big set of footnotes. Then, I had to do a Power Point on it and google was there again when I had questions on how to do that since it was the first Power Point presentation I had done.

shepherd
02-18-2007, 01:02 AM
OK, it sounds like I need to get me a copy of "Home Audio/Video Wiring for Dummies" or something like that. I don't even know what "Cat5e" is. Thanks again Jim. I'm going to look this stuff up, and then when I come back to this thread I'll hopefully know a little more about what we're talking about here.

MarkP
02-18-2007, 01:05 AM
I hope you don’t take this the wrong way but I have to google a lot of what you say.. Its always worth it!

JimN
02-18-2007, 01:06 AM
Cat5e is just what computer networks use- 4 pairs of wires, each pair is twisted to reject noise. Same stuff for connecting the computer to the modem but it can be bought in bulk or in whatever length needed from Home Depot. Usually less than $.30/ft. RCA plugs can be bought at Radio Scrap and soldered on. Shielded twisted pair audio cable can be bought at good car stereo shops.

Leroy
02-18-2007, 07:16 AM
You could get one of the FM transmitters, like the IPOD and boost the signal level up with a CATV amp so it will cover the distance. But this is definitely "some assembly required".

mitch
02-18-2007, 08:48 AM
Shep, Got this receiver 2 weeks ago for 149.00 at CC, not the latest and greatest tech but perfect for my needs.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Pioneer-A-V-Receiver-VSX-516-K/sem/rpsm/oid/148426/catOid/-12949/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

Farmer Ted
02-18-2007, 10:18 AM
Shep, Got this receiver 2 weeks ago for 149.00 at CC, not the latest and greatest tech but perfect for my needs.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Pioneer-A-V-Receiver-VSX-516-K/sem/rpsm/oid/148426/catOid/-12949/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do


Mitch,

7.1 = DTS-EX or Dobly-EX correct?

How is the sound compared to regular DTS or Dolby Digital?

JimN
02-18-2007, 10:29 AM
Or, there's always this:



www.internerd.com/frinky/images/screenshots/triangu2.jpg


http://www.internerd.com/media/frink/wav/tri2.wav

TMCNo1
02-18-2007, 10:34 AM
I have Road Runner Radio on my service provider, see if this link works,
http://www.rr.com/radio/index.cfm. They have about everykind of music you would want and no commercials or anything.
Opps, I can't get it to come up as a link, ya'll try.

Brent
02-18-2007, 10:50 AM
store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=96190CF2&nplm=M9470LL%2FA

JBaker
02-22-2007, 11:57 AM
store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=96190CF2&nplm=M9470LL%2FA

Got a couple of these in my place. Work great and I can stream iTunes from any computer anywhere in the house to any room I have connected. Also doubles as wireless internet router and I connected a USB printer to one of them so anyone can print wirelessly.

Sodar
02-22-2007, 12:02 PM
Got a couple of these in my place. Work great and I can stream iTunes from any computer anywhere in the house to any room I have connected. Also doubles as wireless internet router and I connected a USB printer to one of them so anyone can print wirelessly.

Coolest things ever! Now, you can also sync them, so you can have music streaming to several AirPort Express stations. We have a station hooked to every stereo in our house, plus one in our backyard.....