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Workin' 4 Toys
02-13-2007, 11:36 PM
What do you have, and how do you like it......?

Or which would you like to have..?

Mag_Red
02-13-2007, 11:48 PM
What do you have, and how do you like it......?

Or which would you like to have..?
I have a little Ryobi portable table saw with no leg extensions. (stand) Not a bad saw, I set it on the tail gate and it's not bad for long rips that need more accuracy than circular saw, but I never really feel safe using it. I guess I'm just more comfortable with the General Cabinet saw. What are you going to be using it for??

milkmania
02-13-2007, 11:59 PM
as Mag said
I've also got a little ryobi...
actually got two of them!

I bought one 6 or 8 years ago from home depot for $99.00 without a stand

then was working on my father in laws a couple of years and was picking up some things from home depot.... they had one with stand for $89.00, so I grabbed it and stored it until september 06, and got a wild hair to put it together:rolleyes:

glad I did, because I had forgotten how bad my old saw's tilt gear was stripped.:o
the table helps a little


good little saws for the price:twocents:
need two people to help with cutting 4x8 sheets of plywood, and you really don't want to crowd it. (base's foot print too small) But I cut a lot of wood with the old one!


one of the best things (on father in law's construction) I did with the old one without the base, was to set up a couple of extra saw horses, add a sheet of plywood, and screwed the table saw to the plywood...worked like a dream for ripping boards!

JimN
02-14-2007, 12:17 AM
Mine is kind of portable- it's on a mobile base. 3 HP Grizzly with extension table and 7' rails. Does that count?

If anyone needs a shaper for making doors with stiles and rails, I have one. It has a sliding table and a couple of sets of cutters.

Mag_Red
02-14-2007, 12:36 AM
Mine is kind of portable- it's on a mobile base. 3 HP Grizzly with extension table and 7' rails. Does that count?

If anyone needs a shaper for making doors with stiles and rails, I have one. It has a sliding table and a couple of sets of cutters.Jim........I may be interested in the shaper. What Brand,HP is it??

JimN
02-14-2007, 01:08 AM
It's a Lurem, made in France. Metabo bought Lurem a while back. Good for Beldar, maybe bad for me selling this. I'll get the HP rating. 3/4" spindle with adaptors. As I said, it's made for stiles and rails although smaller panels could be shaped on it. I'll see if I can send some photos in the next day or so.

SkiDog
02-14-2007, 10:00 AM
That portable one that Dewalt makes, is a damn fine saw! :)

milkmania
02-14-2007, 10:19 AM
It's a Lurem, made in France. Metabo bought Lurem a while back. Good for Beldar, maybe bad for me selling this. I'll get the HP rating. 3/4" spindle with adaptors. As I said, it's made for stiles and rails although smaller panels could be shaped on it. I'll see if I can send some photos in the next day or so.
good for Beldar;)

Workin' 4 Toys
02-14-2007, 09:55 PM
I have a little Ryobi portable table saw with no leg extensions. (stand) Not a bad saw, I set it on the tail gate and it's not bad for long rips that need more accuracy than circular saw, but I never really feel safe using it. I guess I'm just more comfortable with the General Cabinet saw. What are you going to be using it for??
Well, I recently off'd my 5HP Delta cabinet saw w/ the 50" Biesemeyer because it was in my way.... (I should mention) I have access to another easily, although not as good.
And I wore out my Dewalt DW744, or was it I got bored with it... I don't know for sure so thats gone too now.
So I do my rips with the Mag77... But recently I have had the need to do some rips and decided I am getting a new table saw. And wanted to see what others out there use and have luck with.

Workin' 4 Toys
02-14-2007, 10:00 PM
Mine is kind of portable- it's on a mobile base. 3 HP Grizzly with extension table and 7' rails. Does that count?

If anyone needs a shaper for making doors with stiles and rails, I have one. It has a sliding table and a couple of sets of cutters.
Sure it counts, but my 5HP Delta with the 50" Biesemeyer fence got in my way once to often....:rolleyes:
So its on to more portable stuff. Not to mention, them cabinet suns o beotchs are heavy going up stairs....

I don't need it for cabinet making, there is another means for that.

I really want something I can use the he!! out of it, and hang it on the wall so it's not in my way.

Workin' 4 Toys
02-14-2007, 10:01 PM
That portable one that Dewalt makes, is a damn fine saw! :)
True, I've been through one.... but I really want to know what my fellow TT's use...

Hoosier Bob
02-14-2007, 11:16 PM
Hitachi is not what it used to be but for the price it seems hard to beat. I love the Bosch Jobsite table saw. Nearly $300 more though. The Hitachi is a true protable with nice features.;)

http://www.tylertool.com/hitachi41.html

This is the one I saw at Lowes! For the money you can afford to replace once in awhile! It was not bad though!

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=159362-46578-C10FR

Workin' 4 Toys
02-14-2007, 11:46 PM
HB, Doesn't that fence lock look REALLY cheesy...? (On the hitachi, both of them actually)

jimmer2880
02-15-2007, 07:19 AM
I bought a near-bottom of the line table saw 2 years ago. Not sure what brand - but it's the same thing as the craftsman - just with a different name. Had very little cash & a project that required it. For what I do it was a good investment. However, it's not perfect by any means. The stand is WAY too light (takes 2 people to rip a 3/4" 4x8 plywood) & the saw is crooked.

peason
02-15-2007, 08:59 AM
I have a craftsman that is on a base with wheels that fold up so I can store it easily. I really like using it and have used it quite a bit on my whole house remodel.

Workin' 4 Toys
02-15-2007, 06:58 PM
HB, I went and looked at that Hitachi. I am going to assume you yourself have not "looked" at it that you would recommend me get one. Please tell me you looked at in in person.....

Workin' 4 Toys
02-15-2007, 06:59 PM
(takes 2 people to rip a 3/4" 4x8 plywood) & the saw is crooked.
This is unacceptable.

M-Funf
02-15-2007, 07:19 PM
Well, I recently off'd my 5HP Delta cabinet saw w/ the 50" Biesemeyer because it was in my way....

Was it on a mobile base? I've got the 3HP Delta left tilt with a 50" Biesemeyer, all on a mobile base. When I push it under the counter, it doesn't stick out too far...

You can see it in this picture. It only sticks out 3-4'. The table extension (which also has my router table mounted in it) is on the end that I can get to. The overarm blade guard makes it a little more difficult, but it works out.
I also roll out an outfeed table that doubles as a workbench when I'm working on longer parts.

I've never owned a portable table saw. I've tried a few that I've borrowed and was never satisfied.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid192/pae38feee6e874a9000a0892b82be292f/f1a81ec3.jpg

Workin' 4 Toys
02-15-2007, 10:57 PM
Yes it was on a mobile base. It had a foot lift in the center, and lifted the side extension table & fence, but not the rear table. It just took up more space than I was willing to share, that's all.

Still wondering if there are any others using portables....

jimmer2880
02-16-2007, 07:17 AM
This is unacceptable.

Lucky for me - the fence can be locked in 1/8" off as well - so I can lock it parallel to the blade :rolleyes:

bbeach
02-16-2007, 08:45 AM
I think by far the Delta table saws are the finest saws on the market! Anyone seen that new saw that stops when it senses your fingers come in contact with the blade? RIDONCULOUS!

JimN
02-16-2007, 09:48 AM
bbeach- FYI, all of the saws that look alike are made in the same factories in China. They aren't made here anymore and the differences lie in how the selling company specs the fit, finish and features. Delta, most if not all Powermatic, General International, Jet, Grizzly, Central Machinery and the others are from the same places. Some have better motors, left tilt vs right tilt, better fence, flatter/smoother top and nicer paint but......

The Saw Stop is a really good idea and from what I have read, it's a good saw even without the stopping mechanism. The problem I have with the owner of the company is that he's been trying to get OSHA and other gov't agencies to mandate the use of that kind of mechanism on all saws. One thing I do like about it is that it has a riving knife instead of the crappy splitter/blade guard that 99% of the saws come with but there are some other saws coming with that now. Too gad it's not an easy add-on for the Delta clones.

#47of100TeamMC
02-16-2007, 09:59 AM
I think by far the Delta table saws are the finest saws on the market! Anyone seen that new saw that stops when it senses your fingers come in contact with the blade? RIDONCULOUS!

I saw the Saw Stop at Solidworks World 2007 (no I'm not a complete software geek) in New Orleans. It's an unbelievable concept... a saw that cuts wood, but not your fingers. There is a small electrical current that is carried in the blade and when your finger touches the blade it grounds it and throws a hunk of aluminum into the blade stopping it and the inertia of the blade rotation retracts it below the table. Happens 10 times faster than an Airbag being deployed in your car. which amounts to 2 teeth on the blade touching your finger when the blade is spinning. Pretty incredible.

Here's the website with a few video's. www.sawstop.com (http://www.sawstop.com)

I hadn't hear what JimN said about trying to get the mechanism mandated. That doesn't sound like a good plan. But when it happens it ruins the blade every time. But I guess better a $90 blade or so than your finger being gone... Something esle that I was wondering, I'm not an electrical guy by any means but what if your wood is a little wet from dew or something if it was outside... would that cause the mechanism to stop the blade too?

Kevin 89MC
02-16-2007, 11:00 AM
WFT, here at work we've found the best portables to be the Ridgid from Home Depot with the folding base & wheels. They're relatively cheap, ~$450, and they can take some serious abuse on our jobsites. I can get it into my truck by myself, and it folds up pretty nicely. It is fairly stable & accurate for a portable saw. Is it as good as a dedicated woodworking table saw? No way, but like you I also don't have the room for one. I recently ripped some p-lam window sills at a 15 degree angle with it, and I was impressed with the cuts from the saw.
Good luck,
Kevin

#47of100TeamMC
02-16-2007, 11:14 AM
I've also been Impressed with Ridgid on other fronts as well. I don't have a Ridgid table saw, But I do have a Ridgid ShopVac, 12" Mitersaw and rolling foldable stand, framing nailer. All have been excellent tools!

I wouldn't hesitate even for a second to buy another Ridgid powertool! Go for it. Then tell us about how good it is so we can buy one too!


WFT, here at work we've found the best portables to be the Ridgid from Home Depot with the folding base & wheels. They're relatively cheap, ~$450, and they can take some serious abuse on our jobsites. I can get it into my truck by myself, and it folds up pretty nicely. It is fairly stable & accurate for a portable saw. Is it as good as a dedicated woodworking table saw? No way, but like you I also don't have the room for one. I recently ripped some p-lam window sills at a 15 degree angle with it, and I was impressed with the cuts from the saw.
Good luck,
Kevin

JimN
02-16-2007, 11:19 AM
47of 100- The fact that they tried (and may still be trying) isn't something they would want to talk about since it would inherently give them an unfair advantage in the marketplace. It's not the same as an airbag or seat belt- yes, if you run your hand through a saw blade, you'll lose whatever is on the side away from your arm but there are ways to make sure the hand doesn't go through in the first place. With a car, there can be outside influence (the other driver) causing the crash and the belt or bag keeps the occupant from turning into the bug on the windshield or being ejected.

There is a way to defeat the stopping mechanism if cutting non-ferrous metals or wet wood. The defeat is canceled when the saw is turned off, if I read it right.

Workin' 4 Toys
02-16-2007, 01:26 PM
Since it was brought up:rolleyes: ,
The Hitachi, Delta, Jet & others are made in China & Taiwan.
The Dewalt is made in Mexico.

Workin' 4 Toys
02-16-2007, 01:32 PM
I've also been Impressed with Ridgid on other fronts as well. I don't have a Ridgid table saw, But I do have a Ridgid ShopVac, 12" Mitersaw and rolling foldable stand, framing nailer. All have been excellent tools!
I'll check them out. If I recall, Home Depot bought Ridgid not so long ago. And If I recall, they may have a lifetime warranty....??? Other than pipe threaders, I usually forget about them....:o

What I don't like about the hitachi and others is the deck and wings, sheet metal.
I would rather have cast deck and wings.
I do like the dewalt because of the fence system, although not deadon accurate, but this isn't for cabinet faces or anything. I am not a big fan of the dewalt stand, it's kind of flimsy, unless they have a new stand I haven't seen yet. But I know the consequences of being sturdy is heavy (mostly). And I want to be able to hang the saw on the wall, or put it in a cabinet when not in use with the stand.

M-Funf
02-16-2007, 01:53 PM
Have you checked out the Grizzly line?

This one is $525 + shipping.
http://images.grizzly.com/grizzlycom/pics/jpeg500/g/g0444.jpg

Workin' 4 Toys
02-16-2007, 02:00 PM
Have you checked out the Grizzly line?

This one is $525 + shipping.

Looks like a sheet metal deck and wings...Is it not..?

M-Funf
02-16-2007, 02:06 PM
Looks like a sheet metal deck and wings...Is it not..?

Cast Iron table...powder coated sheet metal wings...

Workin' 4 Toys
02-16-2007, 02:14 PM
Cast Iron table...powder coated sheet metal wings...
Oh, I don't want sheet metal, but I can't be too picky about the wings, if it's too heavy I won't want to move it to use it...:o now if it just had a collapsable base....

#47of100TeamMC
02-16-2007, 02:37 PM
I'll check them out. If I recall, Home Depot bought Ridgid not so long ago. And If I recall, they may have a lifetime warranty....???

Correct, Lifetime Warranty with all Ridgid Products.

Hoosier Bob
02-16-2007, 07:43 PM
I guess I did not undersand the question? Portable and inexepensive vs. portable and pricey or no portable at all? Hitachi as a whole is not what is used to be. The Bosch is solid but I agree with the fence. The Bosch is the most functional and convenient portable I have seen. Why Portable? If you are only ripping and need portability the Hitachi will do if you are making cabinets then why go portable? Is this for a shop or does it need to be light and convenient? If the latter get decent low priced portable and buy a couple high dollar Freud blades!:D

This is what I would/will have with assorted Freud blades at my disposal! As of now it is horses, 8' fence and my Milwaukee Dropfoot Circular saw!

HB, I went and looked at that Hitachi. I am going to assume you yourself have not "looked" at it that you would recommend me get one. Please tell me you looked at in in person.....

Mag_Red
02-16-2007, 08:13 PM
Do a search...Popular Mechanics did a test on nine portable table saws. Porter Cable seemed to come out on top. One like HB just posted would be my choice.

Workin' 4 Toys
02-16-2007, 08:29 PM
I just went and looked at the exact unti HB posted, it's ok. :(
I guess my expectations have fallen of getting something quality and portable. I will have to stop in at the BIG tool shop soon and get all of them in one place.
The Rigid was a nice unit, and it compares equally with the Dewalt. Cast desk, easy to use stand, and movable/extension fence. The rigid has a strange tape attached to the fence, it's attached by a spring...:confused: Can't see that lasting long...

HB, I want to be able to stuff the thing in a cabinet or hang it on a wall when not in use, I want it to have an attached stand that is collapsable. And I want it to be the best $ can buy, without being overpriced, is this to much to ask.
I will be honest here, I know and have owned a few hitachi tools in my lifetime, they are FAR, FAR, FAR from the quality they used to be. Although I haven't looked at the nailers, maybe they are just as good as they once were.

It appears as if all the manufacturers (that I have looked at so far) have fallen into the game. The game being build them as cheap as possible, but get the most amount of $ possible. And don't worry about the durability.. Does this appear to be???

Hoosier Bob
02-16-2007, 09:15 PM
I remember when the Hitachi Sliding Compound Mitre saw was the deal! My first mitre box was a 10" Hitachi and it was built! Now they still appear to have the ability to do a nice job but the quality is gone. The Bosch has a funky fence but appeared to line up nice. Not many portable units are going to line up perfectly. You are typically going to "Square" the fence anyway. That being said as long as it locks down tight play in front to back is somewhat a non factor. I have used a good t-square anyway as I do not trust most fences on anything portable. I have also seen tests that will put the DeWalt, Bosch, Rigid and Porter Cable on top. I have a ton of PC, Bosch, Milwaukee and sanders only by DeWalt. I have never been a big deWalt guy but there sanders work and are cheaply priced. Remember I use it all rarely but love having them. Passlode for the nailers! I am more of a collector! Can we talk tile saws next please!:D

JimN
02-16-2007, 09:34 PM
WFT- what, exactly, do you want the saw for- sheet goods, ripping/crosscutting mainly dimensional lumber or both? If you need to work with sheet goods a lot but don't want to give up a lot of floor space, have you thought of getting a panel saw or something like a Festool or Eurekazone EZ System?

Here's a link to Eurekazone: www.eurekazone.com

I may know where a used Milwaukee panel saw is. That is, if it's still there.

Hoosier Bob
02-16-2007, 09:42 PM
That is sweet jim. I have an 8' fence that clamps and attaches to itself but not tracks that the saw runs on! That is going on the list!;)

Workin' 4 Toys
02-16-2007, 10:59 PM
I have access to a shop where I can do about anything.
What I want is something to be universal. But quality. And something that I can throw in the cabinet when its not being used.

Workin' 4 Toys
02-17-2007, 12:36 AM
Do a search...Popular Mechanics did a test on nine portable table saws.
That is "sort of" what I was hoping to do here....;)

Mag_Red
02-17-2007, 12:39 AM
That is "sort of" what I was hoping to do here....;)Here's the link----->http://www.popularmechanics.com/home_journal/tools/1273986.html
I was too lazy to look it up when I originally posted:o

PaulW
02-17-2007, 09:48 AM
Hi,
I own a custom cabinet shop and have access to a lot of nice machinery, but for a portable table saw we use the Bosch. It has the soft start with plenty of power to rip. I bought it for an exterior millwork project a few years ago. We ripped wet 2" thick cedar on miters, for the corners for the bay windows with out any issues. It worked flawlessly. Still have it and use it a lot in the field.
I don't know about cutting 4X8 sheets though; it might be a little small for that. Although were a little spoiled over here we cut all our stuff on a C&C router with a 8 tool changer.
Paul

JimN
02-17-2007, 01:51 PM
jimmer- if the saw is crooked, you should be able to adjust it by loosening the top from the base or loosening the trunnions and adjusting the mechanism. Crosscuts and mitering are dangerous the way it is.

JimN
02-17-2007, 09:23 PM
Here's a link for tool tests.

http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/articles/showarticle.asp?articleID=2443&position=2&type=article&partID=1

André
02-17-2007, 09:35 PM
I read good review of their portable planner.
Anyone use their table saw?
For me,only use their plumbing stuff.Good tools and great warranty...
http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/TS2400LS-Table-Saw

Workin' 4 Toys
02-17-2007, 09:50 PM
I looked at the Rigid. It said on the box, 3 year warranty....I hope that is not what they expect "lifetime" to be...:confused:

André
02-17-2007, 10:04 PM
I looked at the Rigid. It said on the box, 3 year warranty....I hope that is not what they expect "lifetime" to be...:confused:
Just went back to my link and saw that.
And for that price,you think they're made in US or China grade?

Workin' 4 Toys
02-17-2007, 11:05 PM
Made in China or Taiwan, I can't remember, but it was one of those.

Workin' 4 Toys
02-17-2007, 11:07 PM
Just went back to my link and saw that.
And for that price,you think they're made in US or China grade?
Although, I did just read this......:confused:
LIFETIME SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR RIDGID® HAND HELD POWER TOOLS, STATIONARY POWER TOOLS AND PNEUMATIC TOOLS

In addition to the 3-Year Limited Service Warranty currently included with RIDGID® Brand Hand Held Power Tools Stationary Power Tools, and Pneumatic Tools, purchasers of these products may elect for a limited time to receive a free Lifetime Service Agreement. To accept this Lifetime Service Agreement, you must register your product and submit proof of purchase as described below. The Lifetime Service Agreement provides the original owner of qualifying RIDGID® Brand tools a lifetime of free replacement batteries, free service and free replacement parts subject to the limitations set forth below.

BriEOD
02-18-2007, 09:17 AM
I have a portable craftsman. It does the job.

Hoosier Bob
03-01-2007, 12:02 AM
I met Steve Slinkyredfoot today! He has been getting me various tools as of late. I decided to hit his shop and was amazed! Talk about a toybox! I needed a new cord for my Milwaukee Buffer, in stock and ready for delivery! More tools and parts support than I have ever seen! Rigid pipe fitter for a bunch of money that creates solderless connections with copper pipe! WOW! I have to have one but why? Cause it was cool! He supplies most of the local contractors and gotta have it people like me around here! If you gotta have it he has it! Anyway very cool shop and more tools than I have ever seen in one location. I mean tools not crap by the way!:D

Thanks Steve!

Slinkyredfoot
03-01-2007, 08:14 AM
You are quite welcome HB

Hoosier Bob
03-02-2007, 10:45 PM
Steve, SLINKYREDFOOT! Get me one of these things! Forget the table saw I do not have the room! This thing is way bad arse!:D We'll talk size later!WFT- what, exactly, do you want the saw for- sheet goods, ripping/crosscutting mainly dimensional lumber or both? If you need to work with sheet goods a lot but don't want to give up a lot of floor space, have you thought of getting a panel saw or something like a Festool or Eurekazone EZ System?

Here's a link to Eurekazone: www.eurekazone.com

I may know where a used Milwaukee panel saw is. That is, if it's still there.

Slinkyredfoot
03-02-2007, 10:51 PM
Steve, SLINKYREDFOOT! Get me one of these things! Forget the table saw I do not have the room! This thing is way bad arse!:D We'll talk size later!

It is in stock HB, Please give me a valid CC# next time will ya????

Hoosier Bob
03-02-2007, 11:21 PM
Won't that end up costing me? How about a good ole Hoosier IOU!8p

Better yet will you take a check? Leroy, write Steve a check!

Workin' 4 Toys
03-14-2007, 12:16 AM
How about a good ole Hoosier IOU!8p
Does the "O" represent a heart???? 8p

Hoosier Bob
03-14-2007, 09:37 PM
I heart U too WFT!8p Does the "O" represent a heart???? 8p

BriEOD
03-14-2007, 09:42 PM
Hey HB, W4T, their is a guy on here looking for "guys" like you two to ski with. Check the post a photo of yourself thread.

Hoosier Bob
03-15-2007, 10:53 PM
Way ahead of you wildman! Where the heck you think I have been?;)

Slinkyredfoot
03-15-2007, 10:58 PM
Way ahead of you wildman! Where the heck you think I have been?;)

Just out of the blue maybe PT on PP, or possibly jail??

Hoosier Bob
03-15-2007, 11:01 PM
PP PT now that is funny!

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-15-2007, 11:04 PM
How come you guys dont come over to the "cool kids lunch table" thread???:confused:

Slinkyredfoot
03-15-2007, 11:07 PM
How come you guys dont come over to the "cool kids lunch table" thread???:confused:

Still wondering what it takes to be "cool".. my counsoler says I am

Hoosier Bob
03-15-2007, 11:08 PM
Drink a lot, smoke and eat fried food! I am way cool!

Workin' 4 Toys
03-16-2007, 12:33 AM
Hey HB, W4T, their is a guy on here looking for "guys" like you two to ski with. Check the post a photo of yourself thread.
There are lots of people here looking for guys like us to ski with.....Now, you on the other hand, I'm not so sure.8p