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bcampbe7
12-30-2006, 09:45 AM
Well, a new vehicle may be my future.

My wife and I are selling the Land Rover to buy something a bit bigger so that we can travel to Iowa with the kid and dog and not be so cramped for space.

With the great help of a certain TMC'er, that will remain nameless, I have found a very clean 2004 Chevrolet Suburban 2500. We have driven the 1500 but not the 2500 and I am wondering how different the 2500 will drive.

Is it still a comfy ride even though the rear is leaf springs?

I am not looking for a Cadillac ride, but I do want a smooth comfortable ride.

Due to the circumstances of this particular sale, we will not be able to drive the truck before purchase. I am OK with this as we are having it checked-out completely by a 3rd party mechanic.

BriEOD
12-30-2006, 09:54 AM
No idea about the vehicle. But, I bet I can guess who the "nameless TMCer" is. :D

SkiDog
12-30-2006, 09:56 AM
I've had both, in trucks, and I'll tell you the 1500 is a LOT smoother. Now that's in trucks, I couldn't say about the suburbans. However, I would think it would be about the same. I will tell you, I'll NEVER have another truck type veheicle thats not a deisel! No gas motor can pull like a deisel!

milkmania
12-30-2006, 02:18 PM
mine are older, but I prefer the 2500!

93 K2500 Suburban
95 K1500 Suburban
97 K1500 Suburban

with the K2500, I can pull the 30' travel trailer up a tree!
as far as torque & power, the 97's vortec 350 is superior to my others.

but for a loaded ride, the 2500 get's my vote:cool:

Sodar
12-30-2006, 02:57 PM
We had a 2003 2500 Suburban... It was a 4x4 through, so I attribute some of the ride characteristics to that. In comparison to the replacement vehicle (a 2006 1500 suburban) I would say that the 1500 rode a bit smoother, but on the flipside, the 6.0 liter motor and the 4x4 od the 2500 was solely missed. We would hook our 33ft center console up to it, weighing in at 9800lbs and it would tow like nobody's business. I would say if all you are towing in your PS 190, go for the 1500 with a 5.3 liter... the ride will be smoother, gas mileage will be better and it will easily tow two of your boats with total ease!

bcampbe7
12-30-2006, 03:34 PM
The deal found was for a 2004 Suburban 2500 with 4-wheel-drive. :woohoo:

I am not too concerned about gas mileage, the 2500 6.0L gets the same mileage as my Land Rover.

cbryan70
12-30-2006, 07:41 PM
simple solution. If the ride is rough put pillows on your seats. :-)

Carbon Dreams
12-30-2006, 07:55 PM
2500 Tranny and Rear-End are superior to the 1500. Low miles?? 1500 is ok. High miles 2500 is a better deal.

We had a 2500 with the big motor. Other than bad gas mileage, it was a beast! It would pull anything. The 1500 replacement is cushier but doesn't tow as well.

My .02

T Scott
12-30-2006, 07:57 PM
No idea about the vehicle. But, I bet I can guess who the "nameless TMCer" is. :D

I can guess too !!! ;) ;)

JBeckom
12-30-2006, 08:09 PM
We tow our '78 Stars and Stripes all over with the 1500, and have had nothing but a great experience. It is like nothing is even back there. Yes, the 2500 will pull more tons, but all ski boats will pull great behind the 1500 (ok, maybe the 28' Mastercraft would be a little bit slower).

Hey, better gas mileage, and cheaper. I also weighted the benefits. I tow 3.5 hours on the weekends max, and for only 5 months a year. For me, it was a simple matter of usage/cost/benefit. I occasionally pull over 12,000 pounds, but 2 times a year does not warrant the difference in ride, price, or gas mileage.

But, it all comes down to what you want to do, and you want to spend. You have to be happy with it.

I have had mine 2 years and 3 months, and have put 55K miles on it (it had only 6 miles when I bought it new). A great vehicle! The family loves it! Either way, you cannot go wrong. Enjoy your purchase.

André
12-30-2006, 09:48 PM
I can guess too !!! ;) ;)
I don't know ,so tell me...

victorff
12-30-2006, 10:33 PM
Id go with the 2500. I had an 02 tahoe with the 5.3 and i always felt I was working it to hard on the hills. Overdrive is impossible. In drive at freeway speeds your probably running at 2500-2800 rpm mileage really starts to suffer, We now have a 2500 crewcab, couldn't be more happier.

T Scott
12-31-2006, 08:00 AM
I don't know ,so tell me...


Check out the link in my signature. Has been my side business for about 4 years. I sell about 20 cars and 12-15 boats per year.

Tom

milkmania
12-31-2006, 08:25 AM
hell with Disneyworld, I'm going to Tom's house!!!

Jerseydave
12-31-2006, 09:16 AM
I own a 2000 K2500 Suburban, 6.0L with 4.10 rear.

The reason I went with the 3/4 ton is the following:

Prior boat was a 30' Formula, total weight w/trailer 9000#+.
Now we pull our '03 230VRS, a 31' travel trailer (weight 8000#), and I also have a Meyers plow on the truck for the winter.

The K2500 does ride stiff compared to a 1/2 ton, but the trade-off is more power (6.0L vs. 5.3L) and more towing capacity. The transmission is much better in the 3/4 ton vs. 1/2 ton. Gas mileage 8-10mpg.

I only put about 7000 miles/year on mine. If I needed a daily driver, I would go with the 1/2 ton, unless you're towing alot of weight like me.

You'll love a Buburban either way, very comfy interior. Good luck.

PendO
12-31-2006, 09:59 AM
I own a 2000 K2500 Suburban, 6.0L with 4.10 rear

FWIW you can get a 1/2 ton w/ the 6.0L and 4.10 rear axle

as for the 2500, I wanted one, but my wife didn't like the 8 lug wheels, and since it is her daily driver ... as far as the stiffer ride, I would think you could take it to a 4X4 shop and have the suspension modified for a softer ride, for the right price I'd go with the 04

cwright
01-01-2007, 02:56 PM
I've driven Burbs for twenty years. Two years ago I bought my first 2500 (a 99 4X4) with 454. I will never go back to the 1500. I don't notice a big difference in ride, but do notice that everything is built heavy duty, which seems to be more like how they should be built. 2500 comes with skid plates underneath, the tow package includes oil cooler and auxillary tranny cooler, 8 lugs, bigger axles, bigger discs for brakes. I have 110K miles on mine and if I told you it had 10K on it you would not be able to tell the difference. The only way I would consider a 1500 with the smaller V8 is in the Tahoe (which doesn't come in 2500).

PS: I get around 11 MPG with my 454, with or without boat. Comes with a 44 gallon tank, fill ups are almost always over $100.

I have driven some burbs with fewer miles that did not drive well and I would not have bought. It is too bad you can't personally drive it and feel for wheel shimmy, brake pull, steering drift, squeaks and rattles. If you live in an area that has a market for burbs, you could always buy with the risk, and sell if you don't like. But back to your first question, I would say the 2500 is the right choice. Pulled a boat for years with a 1500 and it did ok, but I really enjoy my 2500. My biggest problem is forgetting my boat is behind me and not allowing enough stopping distance. Good luck.

milkmania
01-01-2007, 03:01 PM
My biggest problem is forgetting my boat is behind me and not allowing enough stopping distance. Good luck.

been there, done that:o



actually I turned into a gate off the road at the baseball field.....

never saw a thing until I saw the boat coming down off of the laid over gate post, and the sun was in my mirror

Workin' 4 Toys
01-02-2007, 10:33 AM
I am not too concerned about gas mileage, the 2500 6.0L gets the same mileage as my Land Rover.
I knew there was something gone wrong when you were trying to stuff everything you have into a hitch mounted plastic box.... I hope the Rovers custom "modified" hitch box is returnable with slight tire carrier modifications...:rolleyes:

bcampbe7
01-02-2007, 08:37 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone.

The 2500 didn't work out. It was more than we (and everyone else apparently) were willing to pay and did not sell at the auction.

I cannot say enough good things about T Scott! He went above and beyond to find a vehicle for us. If anyone is looking for a newer vehicle, shoot him an email. Thanks again for everything Tom! :cool:

I knew there was something gone wrong when you were trying to stuff everything you have into a hitch mounted plastic box.... I hope the Rovers custom "modified" hitch box is returnable with slight tire carrier modifications...:rolleyes:

Nope.. We're going to keep it just in case.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-03-2007, 07:59 AM
Nope.. We're going to keep it just in case.
Now with a suburban, you are going to have one of those "things" laying around in a year or so asking yourself why you kept it. Jus' sayin'...8p I doubt you'll need the extra room.. And you might be able to auction it off and actually tell people it fits a Rover now...;)

bcampbe7
01-03-2007, 11:24 AM
Now with a suburban, you are going to have one of those "things" laying around in a year or so asking yourself why you kept it. Jus' sayin'...8p I doubt you'll need the extra room.. And you might be able to auction it off and actually tell people it fits a Rover now...;)


We'll see... The dang thing weighs so much that shipping would be expensive! I got free shipping when I bought it and it was in two boxes. I am not sure how I would ship it now after putting it together.


W4T's... I had to drive to your State to find this vehicle at the price we were willing to pay. We ended up with a 2004 GMC Yukon XL with all the bells and whistles and only 30K miles. I'll post some pics when I get a chance. We found it in Aledo!

Workin' 4 Toys
01-03-2007, 11:57 AM
We'll see... The dang thing weighs so much that shipping would be expensive! I got free shipping when I bought it and it was in two boxes. I am not sure how I would ship it now after putting it together.
Cut it up.....:D


W4T's... I had to drive to your State to find this vehicle at the price we were willing to pay. We ended up with a 2004 GMC Yukon XL with all the bells and whistles and only 30K miles. I'll post some pics when I get a chance. We found it in Aledo!HOLY ALEDO.....8p And you didn't drive an extra 320 miles to stop in and say hi??What's up with that.? Don't tell me you came up and visited your relatives down the street here, and didn't stop. If so I am taking you off my itinerary in a couple weeks...8p


Don't tell me how much you paid, I don't wanna know what mines worth...:(

jimmer2880
01-03-2007, 12:36 PM
Now with a suburban, you are going to have one of those "things" laying around in a year or so asking yourself why you kept it. Jus' sayin'...8p I doubt you'll need the extra room.. And you might be able to auction it off and actually tell people it fits a Rover now...;)

I have the aluminum box. Mostly it sits on my Jeep (the only true place to lock something in a soft-top. But, when we take trips - if the boat isn't attached, the box is on the 'burban. Even 'burbans fill up quickly when you have kids. Not to mention - that's where we put our snow skiis, or anything that will be wet.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-03-2007, 12:45 PM
I have the aluminum box. Mostly it sits on my Jeep (the only true place to lock something in a soft-top. But, when we take trips - if the boat isn't attached, the box is on the 'burban. Even 'burbans fill up quickly when you have kids. Not to mention - that's where we put our snow skiis, or anything that will be wet.
I was jus' ribbin' him on a purchase made two weeks ago and now doesn't need and can't sell cause it'll cost him more to ship it than its worth because he had to have it modified to fit his Rover.
I did have to use a hitch rack on my Yukon once, when we had 9 people in it. I sure do miss my truck ONCE in awhile...:cry:

bcampbe7
01-03-2007, 05:06 PM
HOLY ALEDO.....8p And you didn't drive an extra 320 miles to stop in and say hi??What's up with that.? Don't tell me you came up and visited your relatives down the street here, and didn't stop. If so I am taking you off my itinerary in a couple weeks...8p

No, I didn't get over there to see my brother's place. I would have PM'ed you if I had (Not that you would have PM'ed me back 8p :D ).

BriEOD
01-03-2007, 05:07 PM
You back to work?

bcampbe7
01-03-2007, 05:08 PM
I was jus' ribbin' him on a purchase made two weeks ago and now doesn't need and can't sell cause it'll cost him more to ship it than its worth because he had to have it modified to fit his Rover.
I did have to use a hitch rack on my Yukon once, when we had 9 people in it. I sure do miss my truck ONCE in awhile...:cry:


I checked it today and it will fit fine on the Yukon! :cool:
I just need to drill another 5/8" hole for the pin.

bcampbe7
01-03-2007, 05:08 PM
You back to work?


Nope... Still in Iowa.

bcampbe7
01-03-2007, 05:41 PM
Pics.............

bcampbe7
01-03-2007, 05:42 PM
Another.........

PendO
01-03-2007, 05:53 PM
Real Nice looking ride B!

Workin' 4 Toys
01-04-2007, 08:34 AM
Another.........
REAL nice you back seat driver you.......... And I resemble the Non PM comment..8p