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Rallyspitman
12-29-2006, 02:03 PM
I need to replace the bunks on my 1991 190PS. Its only a days job, so I don't want to cradle the boat whilst I do it, and intend to leave it hanging. I have access to a car 4-post lifting ramp, so have plenty of lifting power. Plan is to lift the front using the deck lifting eye, but how do I lift the rear? Manual says use the lifting eyes on the transom, but these don't look upto the job - more like suitable for mooring, and only just!- How reinforced are they???? Second thought was to sling the boat underneath with a 2 inch lifting strap. (I would have to use the eyes to lift the boat a little to get the sling between the hull and the bunks.
Anyone have any comments.

JohnnyB
12-29-2006, 02:09 PM
If you look in some of the manuals, I believe they are available in the downloads section of this site, they specify lifting techniques. I'd be inclined to:

1) use front lifting ring and rear sling (which is what I believe lots of the manuals suggest)
2) save yourself the anxiety and moore it somewhere while you change the bunks.

TMCNo1
12-29-2006, 03:37 PM
The rear eyes on the transom can be used, but a spreader bar should be required for the 2 cables that go up to 1 cable.
If you use a strap under the rear portion of the hull, use a spreader bar there too to keep the straps from pinching the deck and hull sides at the rub rail and causing stress cracks in the glass an gelcoat, in other words you don't want the straps contacting the rub rails. If you have a Overtons catalogue, look in the overhead cable boat lift section and you will see what I mean.

Chief
12-29-2006, 06:22 PM
Back it slowly down the ramp, unload boat and change bunks.

jimmer2880
12-29-2006, 07:25 PM
Back it slowly down the ramp, unload boat and change bunks.

That would be my vote.

JimN
12-29-2006, 08:17 PM
Make the new bunks ahead of time, lift the boat on one side, enough to remove the old and install the new and repeat on the other side. If you make them ahead of the installation, it should really take about 15 minutes if you measure for the bolts correctly. You're going to through-bolt them with nylock nuts and washers, right? I'm not a big fan of lags going toward a hull.

I would think about drilling the bolt holes, counter-boring a bit deeper and filling the holes with epoxy and spread it past the holes. Maybe talk to a lumber yard about moisture resistant lumber since pressure treating is for fungi, insects and marine borers more than water.

DanC
12-29-2006, 10:32 PM
Make the new bunks ahead of time, lift the boat on one side, enough to remove the old and install the new and repeat on the other side. If you make them ahead of the installation, it should really take about 15 minutes if you measure for the bolts correctly. You're going to through-bolt them with nylock nuts and washers, right? I'm not a big fan of lags going toward a hull.

I would think about drilling the bolt holes, counter-boring a bit deeper and filling the holes with epoxy and spread it past the holes. Maybe talk to a lumber yard about moisture resistant lumber since pressure treating is for fungi, insects and marine borers more than water.

I used this exact method and it worked very well. I used a 4x4 and a floor jack on the back corner and jacked that corner of the boat up 12 inches. The boat was still supported by the other side and the bow.

Rallyspitman
12-30-2006, 06:18 AM
The rear eyes on the transom can be used, but a spreader bar should be required for the 2 cables that go up to 1 cable.
If you use a strap under the rear portion of the hull, use a spreader bar there too to keep the straps from pinching the deck and hull sides at the rub rail and causing stress cracks in the glass an gelcoat, in other words you don't want the straps contacting the rub rails. If you have a Overtons catalogue, look in the overhead cable boat lift section and you will see what I mean.

I'll use the lifting strap under hull method - the 4-post lift is about a foot wider than the boat, so the strap wont touch the rub rail so I'll not need a spreader bar. Ideally I'd launch the boat and float it whilst I do the job, but theres nowhere I can launch in the winter.

Bruce
12-30-2006, 01:58 PM
The rear eyes on the transom can be used, but a spreader bar should be required for the 2 cables that go up to 1 cable.
If you use a strap under the rear portion of the hull, use a spreader bar there too to keep the straps from pinching the deck and hull sides at the rub rail and causing stress cracks in the glass an gelcoat, in other words you don't want the straps contacting the rub rails. If you have a Overtons catalogue, look in the overhead cable boat lift section and you will see what I mean.

I checked Overtons catl. they refer to spreader bar with cradle lift not strap lift. In fact if you look at picture on pg 276(2006 catl.) it shows straps up against rub rails. I am fighting this problem with my boat that stays in straps. So far no indentations on rub rail. It may happen. At this point problem is windshield is pinched in at top about 1/4 in. It opens back up when boat is in water. At this point I would worry more about trying to lift the rear with anything but a strap. Normally they specify 4" strap but for this short period I would not worry.

JimN
12-30-2006, 04:59 PM
Cargo straps can lift a lot more than a boat like this. We used 2' and 3' straps to lift 32' Regals off of the trailers when I worked at the first dealer. No problem at all. They just need to be made for that amount of weight.

MMCCAR12
02-29-2008, 12:15 PM
How do you guys remove your boat from your trailer at home? I want to paint my trailer. 1983 SS on V and M TRAILER. What is a safe way to do this.

Thanks

bcampbe7
02-29-2008, 12:52 PM
Trickskier has a pretty neat way of doing this. Maybe he will be along shortly to explain.

rodltg2
02-29-2008, 01:08 PM
where do you live? If in sac area i can help you

Benny Boy
02-29-2008, 01:24 PM
Back up to something you can hook the back of your boat to (like a big tree ot something). Hook your boat to it with a strong strap or chain. Drive forward for about a foot or two with your truck. Jack your boat up about 6 inches and rest the back of the boat that's sticking out on blocks.

Drive forward again untill the boat almost falls off the trailer, jack the front up and put it on blocks also. Voila! You're done. Just drive off.

I'm sure there are better ways, but that's how I do it.

You can always just tie your boat to a tree and drive forward with the truck untill the boat falls off the trailer, but it's just a little harder to put back on the trailer when you're done painting :D

lazypiper
02-29-2008, 01:43 PM
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12550&page=17

This should help

Sodar
02-29-2008, 01:46 PM
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12550

Read posts #165 through #170

defender1009
02-29-2008, 01:54 PM
great minds think alike.

flipper
02-29-2008, 01:55 PM
I've done it with a floor jack, and an engine hoist one time, and two engine hoists the second. It's really easy with two of them. Then set the boat on a bunch of old tires I got for free from the local tire shop. Where you at....I can help one of these weekends if you need help.

shepherd
02-29-2008, 04:17 PM
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12550&page=17

This should help

Just be careful... :rolleyes:

wakeX2wake
02-29-2008, 04:33 PM
this may be a weenie way to do it but... I would take it to a dry storage and have them take it off w/ a forklift and store it until you're done w/ the trailer... a lot of them require a certain term on the storage but if you can sweet talk them and let them know of the special project and your wide influence in the local boating community their co-operation might be a little easier to come by

MMCCAR12
02-29-2008, 05:00 PM
Yea, I talked to a guy and he will do it for 70 bucks a week. I just think I should be able to do it myself and then have all the time I want to prep and paint. I had the original color matched and spent good bucks on the materials so I want to do a good job and not be rushed.

I do appriciate all your help.

flipper
02-29-2008, 05:34 PM
It's not that hard. Best to have at least a couple people. Where on the west coast are you?

MMCCAR12
02-29-2008, 05:38 PM
So Cal, Corona in Riverside County

flipper
02-29-2008, 05:42 PM
oh, I'm up by San Jose, a little to far for me.

454Prostar190
02-29-2008, 05:59 PM
I grew up in Corona. Went to Corona High:)

ProTour X9
02-29-2008, 06:10 PM
This is totally sarcastic.....



On a warm dry day, put the boat into a good sized body of water
Tie boat up to dock or in shorestation
Pull out trailer and dry w/ towels
Paint
Let Dry
Back Trailer into water
Drive boat on trailer
Make sure to tie all straps, hook all hooks, etc
Slowly drive off

If all goes correctly, this will not help at all.

MMCCAR12
02-29-2008, 06:33 PM
One plan was to place boat in water and tow trailer with motorhome to a location away from people/campground. Start up motorhome generator and plug in compresser, mix pait with activator and spray.

shepherd
03-09-2008, 11:58 AM
(In response to drbesvold1's PM:)

Here's a few pics of how I blocked up my boat when I pulled the trailer out. The boat was very steady on the blocks. One thing not to do: Don't lay the top blocks like I did, with the holes horizontal. Lay them so the holes are vertical, like the bottom blocks, which is the stronger position. I don't know what I was thinking there... (but it worked :rolleyes: )

shepherd
03-09-2008, 11:59 AM
Front view:

Jerseydave
03-09-2008, 02:19 PM
I would imagine a local wrecker company could lift the boat off and block it for you safely and for around $50-75.

Sure beats dropping the boat on the ground, or worse yet on yourself.

Either that or someone's rack storage idea.

SkiDog
03-09-2008, 03:33 PM
Front view:
I am SOOOOOOOO glad you posted that picture Shep! You are the man!:)

shepherd
03-09-2008, 07:38 PM
I am SOOOOOOOO glad you posted that picture Shep! You are the man!:)

Thanks dog. Does that mean I get a free t-shirt? :rolleyes:

trickskier
03-09-2008, 08:11 PM
Trickskier has a pretty neat way of doing this. Maybe he will be along shortly to explain.
Sorry I'm late to the party on this one. My procedure is a lot like Shepherds only I use thick styrofoam blocks. No offense Shep I just don't trust cinder blocks.
32245

TMCNo1
03-09-2008, 08:33 PM
I would imagine a local wrecker company could lift the boat off and block it for you safely and for around $50-75.

I did that in 1997 and used a company that I letter their trucks for and they brought out 2 wreckers one Sat. morning and lifted the boat up. I pulled out the trailer and placed it on stacks of tires. They came back the next Sat. morning and picked it back up and took the tires out and placed it back on the trailer for $50 both trips. It was a effortless process!

drbesvold1
03-09-2008, 08:36 PM
Sorry I'm late to the party on this one. My procedure is a lot like Shepherds only I use thick styrofoam blocks. No offense Shep I just don't trust cinder blocks.
32245never heard of styroform blocks before where do u get them and whats the measurements of that styroform block and what did it cost you?

shepherd
03-09-2008, 10:56 PM
Sorry I'm late to the party on this one. My procedure is a lot like Shepherds only I use thick styrofoam blocks. No offense Shep I just don't trust cinder blocks.
32245

I live in a small town. We don't have a styrofoam block store. ;)
The cinder blocks worked. I put my old 9,000# cruiser on blocks once, and climbed around on it all winter as I was working on it.

Your garage looks a lot cleaner than mine too. :cool:

climbinggod
03-11-2008, 09:40 PM
So am I right in thinking that I am okay to lift the boat on the bow eye and the 2 rear tie down hooks, to lift it up off the trailer??

TMCNo1
03-12-2008, 06:17 AM
So am I right in thinking that I am okay to lift the boat on the bow eye and the 2 rear tie down hooks, to lift it up off the trailer??


Right, boats were once hung in boat houses by those hooks, but because of the size, weight and lack of location to install of the newer boats and the newer high capacity bunk style lifts, the bow lifting eyes have been eliminated, per Cotton Welshan, MC Product Designer.

mrprostar
09-22-2008, 01:30 PM
I know there is thread or two out there somewhere regarding getting your boat off of the trailer to do gel coat repair. Can someone please help me find it because I can't. Thanks.

Sodar
09-22-2008, 01:38 PM
Here is the threadhttp://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12550

Posts 165-170

Eagle Lake Rebel
09-22-2008, 03:05 PM
I don't know what's in the thread, but you could try something along these lines to get the boat off or just make it easy to get to the bottom of the boat. All you need is a big tree and some rope!

PointTaken
09-22-2008, 03:13 PM
That too good! :-)

03 35th Anniversary
09-22-2008, 03:15 PM
Great way to make sure all the water drains out.

mrprostar
09-22-2008, 03:51 PM
thanks for the thread jack! Really appreciate it.

Maristar210
09-22-2008, 04:05 PM
thanks for the thread jack! Really appreciate it.

Sodar already answered your question, whiner 8p

Just kidding.

Rick - aka Trickskier has also put his on foam blocks

endl
09-22-2008, 04:06 PM
I saw the MonArk boat and thought yep he is from good ole AR then I saw the LA registration.

sorry to add to the Jack mrprostar.

Actually I think it shows in your Manual how to lift the boat securely off the trailer also.

Maristar210
09-22-2008, 04:11 PM
Found this in four seconds flat Mr. Prostar

Really aint too hard

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=5245&highlight=lift+boat+coat+repair

Maristar210
09-22-2008, 04:13 PM
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Eagle Lake Rebel
09-22-2008, 04:28 PM
mrprostar I couldn't help it. I figured eveyone could use a chuckle after another dumper day on the stock market. endl this tree is located only 50mi south of the AR line so the Ark has traveled far from its home. Am I jacking this thread again?

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endl
09-22-2008, 04:48 PM
mrprostar I couldn't help it. I figured eveyone could use a chuckle after another dumper day on the stock market. endl this tree is located only 50mi south of the AR line so the Ark has traveled far from its home. Am I jacking this thread again?
mrprostar if you pull that boat up here to AR we can find a good size tree and a warn winch on the front of a good sturdy bumper.

TMCNo1
09-22-2008, 05:01 PM
You can also try this search, Team Talk Google Search, http://www.easttxskier.com/tmcgoogle.html (http://www.easttxskier.com/tmcgoogle.html)
and you'll get this, http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-1573311577903577%3Adsmp8jq2q09&ie=ISO-8859-1&cx=partner-pub-1573311577903577%3Adsmp8jq2q09&ie=ISO-8859-1&cx=partner-pub-1573311577903577%3Adsmp8jq2q09&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=lifting+boat+off+trailer&sa=Search

mrprostar
09-22-2008, 05:30 PM
Here I thought I knew something about TT.

TX.X-30 fan
09-22-2008, 05:53 PM
thanks for the thread jack! Really appreciate it.






Might need more fiber in your diet??

Eagle Lake Rebel
09-22-2008, 06:25 PM
endl, don't be taking the business from my boyz down here that have a proven track record of boat removal/hull repair via a tree. I have contacted them and they stand ready to do the work. They have a long list of satisfied costomers including these fine folks.
40453

mrprostar
09-22-2008, 06:51 PM
endl, don't be taking the business from my boyz down here that have a proven track record of boat removal/hull repair via a tree. I have contacted them and they stand ready to do the work. They have a long list of satisfied costomers including these fine folks.
40453

If I were broke or bored that would be a pretty hot set-up. If it sinks, who cares? You can even entertain insde closed doors!

PointTaken
09-22-2008, 09:03 PM
endl, don't be taking the business from my boyz down here that have a proven track record of boat removal/hull repair via a tree. I have contacted them and they stand ready to do the work. They have a long list of satisfied costomers including these fine folks.
40453
eagle lake...you have some great pictures, and I do chuckle....to good :-)

86mc
09-13-2009, 02:57 AM
Looking for the best way (if possible) to take boat off trailer in my garage in order to completely restore trailer.

86mc
09-13-2009, 02:58 AM
Looking for the best way (if possible) to take boat off trailer in my garage in order to completely restore trailer. Does anyone have experience with this?

keith3613
09-13-2009, 09:37 AM
I’m in the process of doing just that to my 1984. I have done this twice in the past. And, I take my boat off of the trailer for service annually. I live near Dallas, Texas. This is actually pretty easy using an engine hoist. If you have a prop guard, it will need to be removed. Put your boat in the garage where you can pull the trailer straight out. Don’t put it up against a wall or something. Position the boat/trailer where the front of the boat is near the garage door. The trailer tongue will be sticking out of the garage. This will give you some room behind the boat and away from the walls. Lower the trailer tongue to the floor. Block the trailer tires. Measure the distance from the hull of the boat, by the rudder, to the floor. Get two blocks of Styrofoam that height that can nest between the rudder and the trailer frame. My Styrofoam blocks are about 30” tall, and 1.5 feet by 1 foot. If you can’t find or don’t want to use Styrofoam, wooden blocks or whatever you like can be used to cradle the boat on both sides of the rudder. Now, position an engine hoist, with the boom up and safely extended high over the boat. Roll the hoist under the front of the trailer from the side. Slowly, lower the boom hook over the lifting eye of the boat. Don’t hit the boat (I pad the area around my lifting eye). Place, the hook from the hoist in the lifting eye on the front of the boat (you can pad this area too to prevent tool marks). Make sure the legs of the hoist are fully extended for stability. Disconnect the front of the boat from the trailer winch or other secured mechanism. Lift the front of the boat with the engine hoist until the front of the boat is angled upward. Now, unblock the trailer, lift the tongue up (makes the back of the trailer go down) and roll the trailer forward until the tires contact the legs of the hoist. Let the front of the trailer down easy (the back ends of the trailer boards will rest up against the hull). Place another larger piece of Styrofoam or wooden block under the center of the hull in front of the tracking fins of the boat. The size of this Styrofoam should be at least 12” thick and 2’ long by 2” wide. I place a roll of carpet or several layers of carpet on top of the foam to spread the weight. I don’t want the foam to split. Lower the front of the boat down on to the padded foam you’ve positioned in front of the fins. Disconnect the hoist and roll it out of your way. Raise the front of the trailer tongue (lowers the back of the trailer) and pull the trailer out of the garage. Now you can work on your trailer while your boat sits in the garage. A few notes, I’ve rented engine hoists and they work fine. I ended up buying one for convenience. I see by your avatar that you probably own a 1986 model. My 1984 is the same boat and trailer with different graphics. I’ve done this several times and it works easily. You can contact me at keith.a.flud@lmco.com with questions. I’ve also done this for other owners as well. Note, your boat weighs 2600 pounds. Only half of that weight is being raised by the engine hoist. And, half of that weight (650 pounds) is resting on each of the rear Styrofoam blocks. Most of the weight is on the bigger piece of padded foam in front of the fins. I’ll be happy to walk you through this. Safety is my main concern.

LarryG-SIA
09-13-2009, 11:37 AM
Worked at a marina for 4 summers back in 1979-1982, and we pretty much did that quite often with same or similar procedure. All depended on the trailer configuration. YOu would be amazed the size of boats you would see sitting around the boat yard sitting pretty on just a few pieces of foam! You just need ample surface area to distribute the weight. And has KEITH says ... SAFETY FIRST ... ALWAYS take that extra few minutes to make sure everything is set properly and has not slipped out.

LarryG

86mc
09-14-2009, 12:55 PM
Hello Larry:

Thanks for the detailed instructions now I just need the guts to try it! My reason for this is that I would like to overhaul the trailer.

Best Regards,
Tom

86mc
09-14-2009, 12:56 PM
Hello Keith:

Thanks for the detailed instructions now I just need the guts to try it! My reason for this is that I would like to overhaul the trailer.

Best Regards,
Tom

flipper
09-14-2009, 01:45 PM
I've taken quite a few boats off. The best way that I have found is an engine hoist in the front, and one in the back. Lift it up and pull the trailer out. Then I set it on a bunch of old tires. Works great. I have also used one engine hoist in the front, and a floor jack with a piece of wood on the back. This also works but takes a little more time.

DonB
09-16-2009, 10:04 AM
For what it's worth, I am going to be doing the same thing to my trailer in the coming weeks. I talked to the guy at the boat shop here and for about $100 they will take it off and then I can take my trailer get and get it sandblasted and painted. Bring it back and they will put it back on. To me, the $100 seems cheap for letting someone else do it.

Ryan
09-16-2009, 12:03 PM
Here is a thread with some good pics & how to.
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12550&highlight=diary&page=5

Matt L.
09-19-2009, 12:57 AM
I'm looking to do that with my 240sc. Think the foam will work? 24'10", cuddy cabin with a big block. Big before big was cool, and heavy too, 5K+.

Later,

Matt

Napagary
09-19-2009, 07:48 PM
I'm planning on taking my '76 off the trailer this winter. The ideas you're putting up are solid however I see a couple of challenges for me using what you guys are suggesting. First I have no lifting ring but do have the customary U bolt in the bow for trlr tie down. I question how much vertical load it can take w/ nylon slings,etc. Second is removing the prop guard. Mine isn't removeable unless I want to splice/weld on some flat bar inside the channel and make it a bolt on style.
It seems you could get the job done by blocking (styrofoam or wood (( I have a 6X12X42lg from a shop remodel)) just behind the cross pc at the axle, setting the boat on the blocking by adjusting trlr tongue, as you guys are doing. Then moving the trlr ahead until add'l blocking could be placed at the transom, reblocking, then sliding the trlr. out. It's a multi-step process w/ some engineering along the way. Timely yes but I have all winter.
Has anyone done it this way or similar?
Thks

Miss Rita
10-07-2009, 03:04 PM
I plan to replace my 20 year old bunks. I don't have easy access to a hoist, so I was going to raise the boat with a floor jack and block it a few inches above the trailer.

Is there any reason to NOT place the jack at the transom to raise it?

Thrall
10-07-2009, 03:28 PM
Nope, it will be fine. Just spread the load out if you can. I raised mine up like that to re-do the bunks and then decided it would be much easier with the boat off the trailer, so I made up the bunks ahead of time and took them with on my next camping trip and did it when the boat was off the trailer. By the amount of leverage I had to put on the bunks to get them to bend to match the mounts, I think it would be difficult to do laying on your back under the trailer. Couldn't really drill the holes on layout without mounting the rear part up and then working fwd on each mount.
I jsut drilled right thru the carpet and used carriage bolts. Made sure to tighten them down where they sucked into the wood a bit so as not to scratch the hull.

Miss Rita
10-07-2009, 03:50 PM
My original MC trailer has 2x4 bunks set vertically on the mounts. I won't have to worry about scratching the hull as the bunks are sandwiched between metal brackets and the bolts are horizontal.

Double D
10-07-2009, 04:02 PM
Not sure if this helps but when I re-did my trailer a few years back I took my boat to the dealer to have them lift it off and to get some work done at the same time. They lifted it but then placed it on blocks. I took pictures of the proceedure that might help you locating the best spots for blocks. They did remove the lifting devices and it sat on blocks for a week.

Good luck!:) Two sets of pictures to follow:

Double D
10-07-2009, 04:03 PM
Next set of pictures:

JMann
10-07-2009, 04:26 PM
I did the same as Thrall. I prewrapped new bunks and after a day of skiing I parked in the marina did all my work to the trailer then loaded the boat. I used 2x6 with 3/8" x 1 1/2" stainless lag bolts. It was difficult to get the 2x6 to conform to the trailer so bring clamps to hold the boards in place while you drill and bolt.

OhioX14
10-07-2009, 04:36 PM
I'd let the guy in those pictures do that to my boat anytime. Chris knows what he's doing!

kkkeating
10-07-2009, 06:08 PM
Not sure if I'd support the keel as they've done above. The image I've posted is from Mastercraft's 2007 Owner' manual.

trickskier
10-07-2009, 06:50 PM
I did it with a floor jack in less than 30 minutes...............:D

52384

Thrall
10-07-2009, 06:52 PM
My original MC trailer has 2x4 bunks set vertically on the mounts. I won't have to worry about scratching the hull as the bunks are sandwiched between metal brackets and the bolts are horizontal.

Your's sounds alot easier to do than the flat bunks.
As JMann said, you'll need a C clamp or 2 or a helper for the flat bunks.

Here's a question for someone in the know. My PS 190 has 2x6 bunks and weighs about 2500lbs.
The X2 has 2x4 bunks and weighs about 4000lbs. Just looks cheesy to me.
Are these 2x4 bunks holding up well under the heavier boats?

TMCNo1
10-07-2009, 07:34 PM
I hired two wreckers from one of my customers that I letter for who lives one mile away and raised the boat off the trailer, pulled the trailer out, supported the transom/rear hull at the stringers and keel on 8 tires at each point with 1' clearance under the running gear for one week to refurb our trailer. Did it all in reverse for the placement back on the trailer, all for $50 in 1997.

trickskier
10-07-2009, 07:44 PM
I hired two wreckers from one of my customers that I letter for who lives one mile away and raised the boat off the trailer, pulled the trailer out, supported the transom/rear hull at the stringers and keel on 8 tires at each point with 1' clearance under the running gear for one week to refurb our trailer. Did it all in reverse for the placement back on the trailer, all for $50 in 1997.

They'll charge you $50 just for the phone call now................8p

OhioX14
10-07-2009, 07:53 PM
I did it with a floor jack in less than 30 minutes...............:D

52384

How'd you do that? I'd like to get my boat at least off the bunks long enough to give the hull a good washing without ending up with stripes where the bunks are. I've got a floor jack and a pair of heavy duty jack stands.

Suggestions?

Thanks!

cmw
10-08-2009, 02:42 PM
Hate to sound cheap, but....

Do you think you could use old tires to support the boat. I need to wield, sandblast and paint my trailer this winter. I hate to buy Styrofoam and only use it for the week, then have to get rid of it. I am running out of room to store things.

TMCNo1
10-08-2009, 02:53 PM
Hate to sound cheap, but....

Do you think you could use old tires to support the boat. I need to wield, sandblast and paint my trailer this winter. I hate to buy Styrofoam and only use it for the week, then have to get rid of it. I am running out of room to store things.


That's what I did and I placed a blanket on top of the tires to set the boat on. Just remember, the tires will compress some, so I used 8 each side on the rear and 8 under the keel and over a week the tires compressed about 1' and I still had a 1' between the prop and the asphalt. Any more time than a week, I don't know how much more they would have compressed, but I wasn't going to find out.

Miss Rita
10-08-2009, 02:54 PM
When I rebuilt the trailer for my other boat I was able to get the boat off the trailer with a single floor jack. It involved a lot of jacking, blocking, and moving the trailer one foot at a time. The boat was in my garage on concrete blocks with wood spacers for three months. I'll tell you though, it was quite a relief to get the trailer back under it!

flipper
10-08-2009, 03:19 PM
Hate to sound cheap, but....

Do you think you could use old tires to support the boat. I need to wield, sandblast and paint my trailer this winter. I hate to buy Styrofoam and only use it for the week, then have to get rid of it. I am running out of room to store things.
That's what I set mine on. Worked great

TMCNo1
10-08-2009, 04:24 PM
That's what I set mine on. Worked great


I don't know about you, but when I was done, I was tired!:rolleyes:

smoketu
10-10-2009, 01:48 PM
When I rebuilt the trailer for my other boat I was able to get the boat off the trailer with a single floor jack. It involved a lot of jacking, blocking, and moving the trailer one foot at a time. The boat was in my garage on concrete blocks with wood spacers for three months. I'll tell you though, it was quite a relief to get the trailer back under it!

I'd love to see photos of that. Even though I'm in Phoenix I'd love to get my boat in the garage over the winter months.

Miss Rita
10-10-2009, 08:32 PM
I had some pictures, but I can't find them.

My other boat is an I/O, and the chines at the stern are nearly flat. Both rear corners and the keel were supported by a total of three 16" cinder blocks set on end with either 2x4's or 4x4 sitting crosswise on top of the block. It made me nervous to do it, but nothing bad happened.

ahhudgins
10-11-2009, 08:51 PM
I changed my carpet this past spring and jacked up one side like Jim suggested. Saved me a trip to the lake and did it in my driveway. I might haved used a car lift if I had access to one, but I would have been nervous (very) leaving my boat up in the air since I've never done it before. Just don't go buy a case of beer and video tape it because you know something bad will happen! :D