View Full Version : Ballast and PP Install

12-28-2006, 09:44 AM
After atleast a month or two of planning and researching, my dad and I got the time to work on installing a four bag autofill ballast system in my 1999 X-star. i used P-hat_in_Cincy's ballast install http://www.wakesiderides.com/rides/index.php?page=out&id=1482 as a guide, and changed a few things to fit my boat.

i have (1) 700lb fly high bag on either side of the engine, (1) 375lb fly high tube sac in the ski locker and (1) 400lb integrated bow sac in the front under the seats. i'm running (3) Jabsco puppy pumps to fill and drain the bags: (2) are 15A pumps, these each fill a side sac in the back, and the third pump is a 20A and it fills the tube sac and the front sac. i have these two bags running from a "T" connection and i have a ball valve to regulate the flow to the pumps since they won't be filled the same amount.

i won't get too technical, since i just followed P-hat_in_Cincy's install, but check out the pictures and share in my enthusiasm.

o yeah, i also installed P.P. too.
i couldn't have done it without the help of paul (p-hat_in_cincy) and my dad!!!!!!!!

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12-28-2006, 09:57 AM
ahhhhhhhh.........why aren't pictures showing up??

12-28-2006, 10:33 AM
I wanna see those pics! I'm doing ballast and PP in my 205V this spring. Did you get the new PP with the white backlit display?

12-28-2006, 11:28 AM
yeah i think its white....i wish it was red to match everything else....but i didn't know if that was available.

talk to paul and read his article on his install first...that will give you a guide for what you need to do. i'm working on getting more pictures.


12-28-2006, 11:29 AM

12-28-2006, 11:38 AM
I'm doing a PP install too this Spring (Etakk and I are the same person spilt between different states)

I would love to see pics of where you put the paddle wheel. Did PP tell you where to put them?

12-28-2006, 12:11 PM
I have read his article many times - it will be a big help for me. I am doing an aerator system though - so there will be many differences. What size spa tubing did you use?

12-28-2006, 12:16 PM
i used the same spa hose that paul used: 3/4" ID see his BOM for where to buy it (www.plumbingsupply.com) i think

for the PP install, they give you locations where it is recommended to mount the paddle wheel. i'd recommend removing as much of the interior as possible at first, to help you reach things when you need to. we mounted my paddle wheel across from the raw water intake, and forward about 20". but you just have to look at your hull and see where you can put it.

12-28-2006, 04:31 PM
ok thanks. I'm just afraid of putting it too far forward where it leaves the water in choppy water. My Malibu would take off like a rocket sometimes in choppy water. HOLLLLLLLLLLLLLD ONNNNNNNN!!!!

I'de have to pull the throttle back to prevent from killing riders.:eek:

12-28-2006, 05:10 PM
perfect pass is definately sweet

12-28-2006, 06:21 PM
Lassy, looks like a great install, and I think several of us refer to Paul-in-Cincy's online project reviews for ideas.

I have the same basic boat, a 99 205V. You mentioned that you installed the paddle wheel across from the water intake and 20" forward. That would put me right in the gas tank. Did I read that right?

I am installing PP in the spring. I plan to put it on the Port side, just opposite the raw water intake, and just a few inches in front of the square molded indention. I would expect there to be turbulence anywhere behind that indention. On my boat, this seems like the only place it could go.

12-28-2006, 06:44 PM
Here is what I was told by somebody who had installed it in a 205V/X-Star. This is consistent with where P-Hat's is I believe as well.

"The paddlewheel is located 6 inches, center to center, from the recessed area (towards the bow). It is also centered to the recessed area.

If you lift up your cooler you will be able to see where the recessed area is, mostly under the transmission.

That is also the location the X-2 uses per Stengl Marine in Wisconsin."

12-28-2006, 08:59 PM
Congrats on the install! Laying and moving around in those compartments can be fun...contorsionist style!

12-28-2006, 10:21 PM
hey Rich_G

sorry about the 20 inches...i was in metric

jk.......i was just guessing from what i thought it was...
it is actually in the 8 or so inches of empty space behind the gas tank, and in front of the transmission....it is right in front of that square recessed place in the hull mentioned earlier