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landscape
12-17-2006, 05:46 PM
I am looking at a 2003 Maristar 210 for slalom skiing and a good family boat. I don't ski the coarse yet but I really enjoy aggressive recreational level skiing. I am not sure if I would be happy with the size of the wake. On the other hand I am not sure if the Wife and 4 year old daughter will be comfortable in the Prostar 197. Any advice would be appreciated.

erkoehler
12-17-2006, 06:26 PM
Why not consider a ProStar 209 or MariStar 200?

landscape
12-17-2006, 07:14 PM
The Maristar 200 being a newer boat would be more money and don't know if the wake is any better than the 210. I have heard mixed reviews on the 209; I just wonder for the little bit of extra room if it would not be better to just get a 197 and let the wife and kid suffer. Hopefully my daughter will want to ski anyway. We have access to a lake house and don't see them staying on the boat for more than an hour or two at a time.

Maristar210
12-17-2006, 07:16 PM
I am looking at a 2003 Maristar 210 for slalom skiing and a good family boat. I don't ski the coarse yet but I really enjoy aggressive recreational level skiing. I am not sure if I would be happy with the size of the wake. On the other hand I am not sure if the Wife and 4 year old daughter will be comfortable in the Prostar 197. Any advice would be appreciated.


I have an '04 210 and the wake while okay at 30+ mph is no where near as nice as my buddies 197. We all make sacrifices, right?

197 would be okay with me my wife likes the seating arrangement of the 210 and dislike the hump as she refers to it.

Welcome !!!!

André
12-17-2006, 07:24 PM
The Maristar 200 being a newer boat would be more money and don't know if the wake is any better than the 210. I have heard mixed reviews on the 209; I just wonder for the little bit of extra room if it would not be better to just get a 197 and let the wife and kid suffer. Hopefully my daughter will want to ski anyway. We have access to a lake house and don't see them staying on the boat for more than an hour or two at a time.
With access to a lakehouse and only the wife and the kid,why the need for a V drive if you're into slalom?
If you'rer a recreationnal agressive slalomer,i doubt a V drive would please you...:twocents:

landscape
12-17-2006, 07:36 PM
It looks like it is the 197 by a nose. I should be able to find one a little cheaper than a Maristar anyway. Thanks for all the advice.

Leroy
12-17-2006, 07:52 PM
The only concern would be how rough the water can be and if you cruise much. The 210 will be much better then.

landscape
12-17-2006, 08:49 PM
Just when I had my mind made up.....................

3event
12-17-2006, 09:44 PM
The wife and 4 kids ride in our 197 and nobody suffers! And more.

We are on a small lake, though, so we are back at the dock frequently, that does make a difference.

Take the family and have everybody climb in the boats you are looking at, see what you think!

PendO
12-17-2006, 10:53 PM
I am looking at a 2003 Maristar 210 for slalom skiing and a good family boat. I don't ski the coarse yet but I really enjoy aggressive recreational level skiing. I am not sure if I would be happy with the size of the wake. On the other hand I am not sure if the Wife and 4 year old daughter will be comfortable in the Prostar 197. Any advice would be appreciated.


197 or the new (yet to be seen) 214 ... think of it as a stretched out 197

rspiecha
12-17-2006, 11:55 PM
I went from a 1994 Prostar 205 to a 2005 Maristar 210VRS. I love everything about the 210, the extra storage, room for 9-10 people, the tower, upgraded stereo, the Perfect Pass, but the wake is taller and less desirable over the 205. Totally do-able, but no way near the 205.

Rob

FrankSchwab
12-18-2006, 12:08 AM
Don't get me wrong; I love my Maristar.

But it has the slalom wake of your average run-of-the-mill I/O.

landscape
12-18-2006, 07:37 AM
I know the only way to make a decision is to ski behind the different boats. However since it is winter does anybody have in photos they could post of 210,205 and 197 wakes for a comparison ?

Jerseydave
12-18-2006, 08:11 AM
I have a 230VRS, and while I can't comment on the slalom wake of a 210, I can say the 230 wake is very big, too big for any serious slalom runs. The boat (and other factors) has converted me into a wakeboarder. Now we take 8-11 people out and have a blast! And the rough water ride is great.

I did get a chance to slalom and barefoot behind a 197 with the MCX engine. The wake is nil for slalom, and the power and handling of that boat is like a corvette!

If your main purpose is slalom, get the 197. If you even think there's a chance you or someone in your family will turn into a wakeboard junkie like myself, you may want to look into an X2 (205V) with a tower. (V-drive with lots of room). I assume you're looking at used boats, and that may be a great compromise.

Do you have access to a slalom course? That may make a difference.

Leroy
12-18-2006, 09:03 AM
I agree with njskier, on my VRS230 with 1/3 tank of gas on only 4 in boat we ski 32-36 on a regular basis and can be done. However when I get behind HB's 190 I can't believe it! I'll post pix of wake later.

JohnnyB
12-18-2006, 09:08 AM
I have a 230VRS, and while I can't comment on the slalom wake of a 210, I can say the 230 wake is very big, too big for any serious slalom runs. The boat (and other factors) has converted me into a wakeboarder. Now we take 8-11 people out and have a blast! And the rough water ride is great.

I did get a chance to slalom and barefoot behind a 197 with the MCX engine. The wake is nil for slalom, and the power and handling of that boat is like a corvette!

If your main purpose is slalom, get the 197. If you even think there's a chance you or someone in your family will turn into a wakeboard junkie like myself, you may want to look into an X2 (205V) with a tower. (V-drive with lots of room). I assume you're looking at used boats, and that may be a great compromise.

Do you have access to a slalom course? That may make a difference.

I am very familiar with the 23VRS.....it really trashes our 120acre lake when the wally and his family are out toobing with theirs....I would agree that it would be awesome for wakeboarding.

I upgraded to a 197 because of the room....my brother-in-law, myself and buddy of mine are all avid barefoot and slalom skiers. On any given morning we have 3-5 kids in the boat with us to get them out of the cabin (give wives a break).....although not as much room as a Maristar, it should be plenty, especially if you added a tower for stowing gear.

Also, the 197 is a reasonably good rough water boat.....had mine out a couple of times on big water in 2-4 foot waves.....

bigmac
12-18-2006, 09:38 AM
The wake behind my 230VRS is a little flatter than a 210, based on comparisons between my boat and my buddy's X-10 (both 2004's). They were pretty close to the same until I put a different prop on mine. There have been a couple of guys posting here that put that MasterCraft wake plate on their 210s and they have all said it helped the wake tremendously.

The wake for slalom behind my 230VRS is way better than the Century I/O I owned for 12 years, and better than any other I/O I've seen. Definitely not the equal of a dedicated slalom hull, but handles the chop much better. IMHO, the 210's wake is OK for a casual free-skier. If slalom skiing is more important that that to you and you don't mind a rough ride in the chop, go for that flatter hull.

NeilM
12-20-2006, 12:44 AM
I put a Bennett Trim Tab on my 2002 MariStar 210, http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=11290
and it makes a huge improvement in the wake for slalom, BUT, it's still not a 197 - it's a V-Drive. If you think there's any chance your kids might take up wakeboarding, go with the MariStar; if not, go with the 197.

rodltg2
12-20-2006, 12:53 AM
i dont think you'll SUFFER in a 197.. 3 people is hardly a crowd. if you learn the boat , you should have no problem in rough water.

PendO
12-20-2006, 12:59 AM
197 or the new (yet to be seen) 214 ... think of it as a stretched out 197

Well, as lame as the 214 looks, I'd stick with the 197