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Ole Miss Rebels
12-11-2006, 01:16 PM
What prop (size and cup) comes with the 2007 XStar with L18 (450 hp) engine?


Also, I have heard talk of the 2007 Pro Wakeboard Tour Edition XStar. Does such thing actually exist? What type of factory ballast system comes with it? Is it the stock system(1000 lbs.)? or does it have an upgraded system that takes the weight up to around the 3000 lb level? I read somewhere that there is a factory option now that takes your boat up to this level. Is this correct? Thanks everybody and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to everyone.

TMCNo1
12-11-2006, 01:49 PM
What prop (size and cup) comes with the 2007 XStar with L18 (450 hp) engine?


Also, I have heard talk of the 2007 Pro Wakeboard Tour Edition XStar. Does such thing actually exist? What type of factory ballast system comes with it? Is it the stock system(1000 lbs.)? or does it have an upgraded system that takes the weight up to around the 3000 lb level? I read somewhere that there is a factory option now that takes your boat up to this level. Is this correct? Thanks everybody and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to everyone.


Here is the info on it,
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=12943&highlight=Edition

MYMC
12-11-2006, 01:52 PM
What prop (size and cup) comes with the 2007 XStar with L18 (450 hp) engine?


Also, I have heard talk of the 2007 Pro Wakeboard Tour Edition XStar. Does such thing actually exist? What type of factory ballast system comes with it? Is it the stock system(1000 lbs.)? or does it have an upgraded system that takes the weight up to around the 3000 lb level? I read somewhere that there is a factory option now that takes your boat up to this level. Is this correct? Thanks everybody and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to everyone.
As of 2007 the stock L-18 prop drops to 13.7 by 17.5. There is no factory option for greater ballast...factory total on an X-Star is 1000lbs. Empty or full (ballast wise) the boat can and will bump against the rev limiter with this prop if held wide open... Cup on the on this stock prop is listed at .120. If you need more information let me know.

No Skeez
12-11-2006, 01:58 PM
Check out this link for info on the PWT Edition X-Star : http://www.waterskis.com/Events_s/83.htm

PWT Package does not include any additional ballast over the regular production X-Star. MC does not recommend any additional ballast either... Some have plumbed in additional tanks or bags, but also new for '07 is a timed filling system, which will automatically shut off the ballast pump after a pre-set time. This is done to reduce the number of fried impellers on the ballast pumps, but in effect, it also disables piggybacking the stock ballast with aftermarket bags.

Hope that helps!

**Had this ready to post before the other link, but got a phone call. I'll leave it anyways...**

corey
12-11-2006, 04:24 PM
The 2007 pumps do time out, however you can still tie into them. You'll need to turn the pump back on after it times out to fill the additional ballast.

You'll also need to keep an eye on the extra ballast as the excess no longer spits out the side of the boat. Fill and drain both are through the bottom of the hull.

No Skeez
12-11-2006, 04:41 PM
The 2007 pumps do time out, however you can still tie into them. You'll need to turn the pump back on after it times out to fill the additional ballast.


As I've heard, the pumps will only run at 10 second intervals beyond programmed run time... That's a lot of switching off and on...

MYMC
12-11-2006, 05:40 PM
As I've heard, the pumps will only run at 10 second intervals beyond programmed run time... That's a lot of switching off and on...
I was gonna say it but you beat me to it.

corey
12-11-2006, 06:13 PM
Didnt know that. That does pose a problem.

what if you switch the pump to drain for a second, does it reset the system?

MYMC
12-11-2006, 06:19 PM
Didnt know that. That does pose a problem.

what if you switch the pump to drain for a second, does it reset the system?
Nope...almost like someone meant to keep you from doing that.

MYMC
12-11-2006, 06:24 PM
Biggest riddle of the 2007 line is in this thread...almost 100 views and no one has caught it. Must be winter:mad:

PendO
12-11-2006, 06:48 PM
why did they switch to a 17.5 pitch (aside from better holeshot, you will just have a bunch of guys complaining about slow top end with 450hp boats IMO)

Farmer Ted
12-11-2006, 06:49 PM
Biggest riddle of the 2007 line is in this thread...almost 100 views and no one has caught it. Must be winter:mad:

This?

http://www.waterskis.com/photos/2007%20MasterCraft%20CSX%201-2.jpg

or this?

http://www.waterskis.com/photos/2007%20MasterCraft%20CSX%201-4.jpg

TMCNo1
12-11-2006, 06:53 PM
Biggest riddle of the 2007 line is in this thread...almost 100 views and no one has caught it. Must be winter:mad:

Mastercraft does not recommend any additional ballast?

Farmer Ted
12-11-2006, 06:55 PM
Mastercraft does not recommend any additional ballast?


they should recommend carrying a 6 cell maglite if you buy the powder blue cruiser....


It's saaassssy!!!!!!!!!!!!1:banana:

Jerseydave
12-11-2006, 07:54 PM
Biggest riddle of the 2007 line is in this thread...almost 100 views and no one has caught it. Must be winter:mad:

How about by-passing the timed system to return it back to the '06 manual system? Or re-set the amount of time the pumps run? Am I close?

MYMC
12-12-2006, 11:45 AM
why did they switch to a 17.5 pitch (aside from better holeshot, you will just have a bunch of guys complaining about slow top end with 450hp boats IMO)
Hmmmm, me thinks you may be on to something me do...

sanjuan23
12-12-2006, 12:28 PM
Farmer you have any interior shots????

corey
12-14-2006, 11:31 AM
Just posted interior layout of the CSX https://www.waterskis.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=83

corey
12-14-2006, 11:33 AM
Couple more shots at
http://www.waterskis.com/2007-MasterCraft-CSX-p/2007%20mastercraft%20csx.htm

Byrdman
12-14-2006, 12:17 PM
The reason they switched to the new prop, is that at running(pulling) speed, the RPM's and fuel consumption would be less.

MYMC
12-14-2006, 12:45 PM
The reason they switched to the new prop, is that at running(pulling) speed, the RPM's and fuel consumption would be less.
Not with the RPM she'll be turning.

Jim@BAWS
12-14-2006, 08:55 PM
http://www.bayareawatersports.com/searchengine/Details.aspx?diid=863196&bvdid=3121&type=N&indid=1&site_type=template&sortCol=Length&sortDir=DESC&Make=MasterCraft



What prop (size and cup) comes with the 2007 XStar with L18 (450 hp) engine?


Also, I have heard talk of the 2007 Pro Wakeboard Tour Edition XStar. Does such thing actually exist? What type of factory ballast system comes with it? Is it the stock system(1000 lbs.)? or does it have an upgraded system that takes the weight up to around the 3000 lb level? I read somewhere that there is a factory option now that takes your boat up to this level. Is this correct? Thanks everybody and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to everyone.

PendO
12-14-2006, 09:27 PM
Not with the RPM she'll be turning.

Mike, once again you are exactly right:)

1. Max RPM at Wide Open Throttle -----------------4850
2. Max Speed at Wide Open Throttle ----------------44
3. Year of Boat ---------------------------------------------2004
4. Manf. & Model ----------------------------------------MC X-Star
5. Engine-----------------------------------------------------L-18
6. Transmission gear ratio-------------------------------1.5:1
7. Prop dimensions (# of blades and pitch)---------13.7 X 22 (nibral)
8. Octane of fuel--------------------------------------------92
9. Normal operating Elevation--------------------------2062
10. Anything else you want to add that may make performance different

Switched props to 13.7 X 17 and got 5400 (rev limiter and 42 mph-but a larger pitch prop will be the key)

Clearly the boat is overpropped as it cannot get to max RPM's wth the 22, next spring we are going to try a 19.5 pitch from OJ and also try prop from Acme ... the original OEM prop was SS but cracked during the first season and was replaced on warranty with the 22 pitch OJ

Our 19.5 pitch OJ is sitting in the box for next spring:)

As for fuel consumption, does it really matter ... when was the last time someone bought a Mastercraft for fuel consumption:)

MYMC
12-15-2006, 11:42 AM
Mike, once again you are exactly right:)



Our 19.5 pitch OJ is sitting in the box for next spring:)

As for fuel consumption, does it really matter ... when was the last time someone bought a Mastercraft for fuel consumption:)
I like being right as much as the next guy but there is a real issue here...you won't see it with your 2004 as evidenced by your posted trials. Wait till spring/summer 2007 then we'll dig this all up again...the only thing better than being right is being able to say "I told you so". There is a real mystery here in these posts, plain as day...:confused:

TMCNo1
12-15-2006, 12:48 PM
Hmmmm, me thinks you may be on to something me do...


You sold the dealership to Yoda?

MYMC
12-15-2006, 12:59 PM
You sold the dealership to Yoda?
Na, this guy made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

TMCNo1
12-15-2006, 01:59 PM
Na, this guy made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
:uglyhamme :uglyhamme :uglyhamme Darth be tha man!