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mig
12-05-2006, 01:14 PM
I am looking for a newer boat and found a 2001 "19Skier". Never heard of a "skier" model before. It seems to be almost identicle to our 91PStar, sans powerslot. Any input on this hull as a course only boat - improved wake or tracking? Is the powerslot option on our 91 important for course skiing? Will I gain any room inside the boat, the pictures make it look as narrow as the 91. Thanks!

rodltg2
12-05-2006, 01:18 PM
value model based on the 97 hull. great wakes from what ive heard..

JimN
12-05-2006, 01:28 PM
The base model came with few shiny things but the options were available. The hull development had been paid for and they could sell it for less than the new models, plus it had a proven hull design. Best boat around if you want a closed bow 19' for a decent price.

cbryan70
12-05-2006, 01:32 PM
from what i know isnt the 19skier the older models of mastercraft i have a 19 skier and it is a 78....u sure its not a 190?

Sodar
12-05-2006, 01:37 PM
from what i know isnt the 19skier the older models of mastercraft i have a 19 skier and it is a 78....u sure its not a 190?

The 19 Skiers were made from 1998 to ~2003. It was the same hull as the 1995-1997 PS 190's. I have seen a few, and would personally rather have a couple years older 190. The skiers are by no means a shabby boat, but the interiors were a single color, with very simplistic side bolsters and I beleive it came with a lower horsepower motor.

With that said, I have a 1996 PS 190 that looks a little more regal than the 19Skiers for sale... PM me if you are interested ;)

cbryan70
12-05-2006, 01:44 PM
welp mines a 19skier to and its a 78...wonder when the officially changed it over to a 190

TMCNo1
12-05-2006, 01:53 PM
from what i know isnt the 19skier the older models of mastercraft i have a 19 skier and it is a 78....u sure its not a 190?
Prior to 1986 the MasterCraft was labeled as the Mastercraft Skier, in 1986 it was the Prostar, then starting in 1987 they labeled the 19' the ProStar 190 and it has been labeled that way since. The 19 Skier was made, labeled and sold for reasons, SodarSki, JimN and rodltg2 stated in previous posts.

cbryan70
12-05-2006, 01:58 PM
thanks for the info, i did not know a 19 skier was still available, learn somthing new every day...most of the time its not from school

jbfootin
12-05-2006, 02:18 PM
I have a 2001 19Skier and love it. Has 310 hp and with that hull will kick a PS197's but on tow out of the hole. It is a very light boat with a great wake. Not many bells and whisles, but I dont miss them. Have pulled up 14 skiers, deep with 2 skies each. I have pulled 3 barefooters with throttle to spare. Love it...

jbfootin
12-05-2006, 02:21 PM
One more of the interior

east tx skier
12-05-2006, 02:41 PM
They are great boats and from 1999 on were sporting 310 horsepower. Also known as the Sportstar 19 (98-99).

Apart from fuel injection, spray reduction and interior space will be the biggest improvements over your 91. As for your question about the powerslot, gear reduction is a wonderful thing. In 91, the powerslots were what were AWSA approved. The 19 Skier was approved with the 1:1 gearing if I recall correctly.

Unless you are running into spray issues, I'd say you may be looking to sell one boat that skis great for the privilege of owning another boat that skis great.

Datdude
12-05-2006, 03:11 PM
I had a 1999 Sportstar closed bow and it was a very bare interior with an upholstered foam block for the back seat, no radio, fiberglass doghouse etc. It seems like the 2001 and up 19 Skiers have a little nicer interior than my old boat did. I sold my 99 and found a 1995 PS 190 LT-1 that had a nicer interior on the same hull. I personally love the classic gel scheme on the 19 Skiers:cool:

VTJC
12-05-2006, 03:15 PM
I love my 99 SportStar. I do agree with Datdude, the gelcoat on the late model 19 Skiers does look nice. Jamie

dog paw
12-05-2006, 04:34 PM
Prior to 1986 the MasterCraft was labeled as the Mastercraft Skier, in 1986 it was the Prostar, then starting in 1987 they labeled the 19' the ProStar 190 and it has been labeled that way since. The 19 Skier was made, labeled and sold for reasons, SodarSki, JimN and rodltg2 stated in previous posts.


I dunno my 84 has 19 skier right on the model tag at the shifter

BrianM
12-05-2006, 05:46 PM
For a comparison here is the interior of a 1997 Prostar. as you can see same boat. Even the interior color pattern is the same. Only difference is the cup holders on the engine compartment.

ski_king
12-05-2006, 07:14 PM
I dunno my 84 has 19 skier right on the model tag at the shifter
So does my 82.
Then they brought the name back as a budget boat as said above by others.

Jim@BAWS
12-05-2006, 09:23 PM
For a comparison here is the interior of a 1997 Prostar. as you can see same boat. Even the interior color pattern is the same. Only difference is the cup holders on the engine compartment.

Damn Brian...Nice boat where did you get that

Jim@BAWS

C36
12-05-2006, 09:55 PM
Waterski Magazine review on 2001 MasterCraft 19Skier (http://www.waterskimag.com/article.jsp?ID=13618&typeID=121&categoryID=113) :)

G_Anders
12-05-2006, 10:52 PM
I have a 2003 Skier, it's my first boat and love it. Someday I will move up but for starters I couldn't pass this one up when I looked at it.

JohnnyB
12-06-2006, 01:38 PM
One more of the interior

Hmmmm.....familiar site!! I'm well aquainted with skiing behind this boat as well as with the beer cooler behind the driver's seat.

I'll vouch for Jay that this boat is a great performer....although we're talking about different sized boats, I like the wake and power of his 19Skier better than both my old 92 PS190 (285HO) and my current 04 PS197 (310TBI)...granted the 197 trades more room (length and beam) for a minimal wake sacrifice. The 19Skier is a solid boat for your $$ and is a great slalom and BF boat :D

Jim@BAWS
12-06-2006, 01:45 PM
The 19 SKIER hull is the SAME as the Prostar 190 from 1995-1997. The 19SKIER/SPORTSTAR/PS195 was made from 1998-2003.
Instead of it being called a PROSTAR MC renamed it 19SKIER. AWESOME
package with the 310 HP Predator motor. I have owned 4-5 myself personally both in the open bow verison and the closed bow. You cannot go wrong. The 19skier just had LESS bling bling to it. Add a TOWER and 600lbs of ballast and you have a shortened verison of a 205 DIRECT drive. Great wake or lack of wake all the way around

Jim@BAWS

rodltg2
12-06-2006, 01:48 PM
what do you guys think of this one, seems like a good deal. maybe to good??

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/5/2/85340752.htm

Jim@BAWS
12-06-2006, 01:54 PM
In a blowout I SOLD a a 1995 for $13500 that was in no were near as good of shape as this one. It had a 2003 trailer under it. Mechaically it was very good. ROD are you now stepping up to a USED MC.

Seems like a descent deal

Jim@BAWS

BrianM
12-06-2006, 02:04 PM
what do you guys think of this one, seems like a good deal. maybe to good??

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/5/2/85340752.htm

That looks like a super clean boat at great price.

Sodar
12-06-2006, 02:07 PM
I think you will like my 1996 w/ LT-1 with tandem axle for $16k better!! ;)

rodltg2
12-06-2006, 02:16 PM
In a blowout I SOLD a a 1995 for $13500 that was in no were near as good of shape as this one. It had a 2003 trailer under it. Mechaically it was very good. ROD are you now stepping up to a USED MC.

Seems like a descent deal

Jim@BAWS


i may sell the bu, but not becuase i dont like it. i'm saving all my pennies for a possible lake project. so if i can sell it, i will most probably buy an older mc .

H20skeefreek
12-06-2006, 02:31 PM
I still can't figure out for anything why you sold your '93. Seems like a case of someone with more dollars than cents.

JimN
12-06-2006, 04:45 PM
If you don't buy that Prostar, I'm going out there and I'll buy it myself. That's worth the price even if it had a blown motor. It even has a flushing attachment on it. I would connect some kind of diagnostic computer to it just to see how many hours the motor actually ran. The Hobbs meter is OK but it doesn't usually reflect motor run time.

That's a great price and it's clean.

H20skeefreek
12-06-2006, 04:51 PM
IMHO, if JimN says it's a good deal, you'd be an idiot to not buy it.

JimN
12-06-2006, 04:55 PM
Sorry, but I forgot to insert a disclaimer about fully checking it out, I'm not responsible, your actual mileage may vary, objects are closer than they appear and the large print giveth but the small print taketh away.

rodltg2
12-06-2006, 05:08 PM
I still can't figure out for anything why you sold your '93. Seems like a case of someone with more dollars than cents.


i shouldnt have sold it, but at the time my needs were different. my houseboat was located at a choppy river and i needed something a bit bigger. also my firends use to like to wakeboard on my boat. now i since have moved my houseboat to a really nice glassy area, and my friend bought a wakeboard boat which everyone likes better. so now i only really need a hardcore slalom boat to keep at the private lake.

BrianM
12-06-2006, 06:34 PM
That boat would do the trick. Go down and buy it and then sell the LXi. If if you decided not to keep the MC you could probably make some money buy selling the thing in Chicago. Aparently they get $18-20k for them in similar condition up there.

mig
12-07-2006, 03:50 PM
Thanks for all the input. Last question, how many hours are 2000 - way too many?

JimN
12-07-2006, 04:01 PM
2000? It's up there but shouldn't be a problem if it was well maintained the whole time. The first things I would think about if it had that many is doing some tests (compression, vacuum and cylinder leakdown). Then, if it's tired, freshen it up with some head work, maybe hone the cylinders or re-bore them if needed. New rings are cheap and so are new bearings. A good machine shop can advise you on this. Speed shops are good, too, since a lot of them have machine shops in house.

mig
12-07-2006, 04:04 PM
What do you think about the rest of the drivetrain, electrical?

JimN
12-07-2006, 04:11 PM
If it works, don't mess with it. Do a visual inspection for anything obvious but otherwise, I would use it.

east tx skier
12-07-2006, 04:32 PM
If it works, don't mess with it. Do a visual inspection for anything obvious but otherwise, I would use it.

Well, I think we can safely mark this one. ;)

mig
03-06-2007, 03:07 PM
Just for anyone who may be considering a 19 Skier: the 91 Prostar is gone and we are using the 2002 19Skier and loving it. Tracking is greatly improved and spray is no issue - for the camera - never was for the lines I am skiing. The surprising thing to me is just how much better built the newer boat is. With 2000 hours it has twice as many as the 91 had but seems in better shape, the aluminum floor boards are a great improvement, the rear seat is so much lighter to romove/install, feels like there is more storage up front, the dash assy is better quality. Did I say course tracking is amazing? The room inside is improved also, I love being able to walk around the engine box. The wake may be a little harder at 15/22 @32mph but seems better at 28off, might just be cold water and this out-of-shape skiers perception. It is looking like it will be easier on gas too. The predator engine is easier to reach under to drain it and the shower/heater. The whole boat is just a nicer experience to use. Thanks for all the input helping me to learn enough about the 19Skier to pursue the purchase. Worked on it for a month of evenings changing PP over, installing shower & heater, rigging radio/depth finder and fixing upholstery but was worth it. even have $1K left over for gas :)

pq2
03-06-2007, 03:23 PM
Mig, congratulations, post some pics. There is one 19 skier near my house and its beautiful, y let a note on the dash to see if the owner wants to sell it.

ProTour X9
03-06-2007, 04:19 PM
jbfootin, I think any prostar OR 19skier could pull over 14 skiers, anyone have knowledge or proof of this?

VTJC
03-06-2007, 06:06 PM
Don't miss this thread http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=14622

mig
03-06-2007, 09:48 PM
I saw that thread - made me feel even better about moving to the Skier. Here are some pics from tonight - we had 55 degrees and flat calm - doesn't get much better in March!19493
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G_Anders
03-06-2007, 10:36 PM
http://web.mac.com/g_anders/iWeb/Site/Blank.html

See link for my 2003 Skier with 145 hours on it and got it for $22 grand last August. Boat is in mint condition, I'm happy with it

mig
03-06-2007, 11:46 PM
Beautiful boat - my favorite colors. Our 91 was black and white. The price was right on this one so I couldn't be choosy on colors.