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Rallyspitman
11-30-2006, 04:25 PM
Okay, then - Just joined this forum and eventually got access to post.
I'll be collecting my first MC tomorrow subject to a successful test on the water (viewed it last weekend). It's a brokerage boat for sale at a MC dealer.
It's a PS190 1991 model in aquamarine blue & grey. Really nice condition.
Who can list for me the top 5 things I should look out for on this boat?

Also, how do I tell if the engine is standard ford or HO (high output presumably?). Someone told me cam cover design, but being an engine engineer, I think this is crap!

Someone will probably suggest I get it properly looked at by a specialist but I've been around ski boats my whole life (28yrs) and I'm a Chartered Engineer so I like to think I know what I'm looking for...I've been round it with a fine toothed comb and can only find a few niggles. Just looking for anything specific to this type/model. Thanks for the help and brilliant forum by the way!

trickskier
11-30-2006, 04:33 PM
I would suggest having a cylinder compression test done on the engine.

TMCNo1
11-30-2006, 04:39 PM
The difference between the std 351 and the HO is basically the heads. Just a few more horsepower, 240 vs 285 IIRC.

starman205
11-30-2006, 05:06 PM
Rally, Go to East Texas Skiers FAQ link. There is a link to a comprehensive list of what to look for. Oh by the way welcome to the board. :wavey:

starman205
11-30-2006, 05:13 PM
Rally, here is the link.

http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=257514&postcount=47

Mikey
11-30-2006, 05:25 PM
...I've been round it with a fine othed comb and can only find a few niggles.

Rally, what exactly is a "niggle"?

Welcome to the board!:toast:

Rallyspitman
11-30-2006, 05:31 PM
NIGGLE - vi 'to busy oneself with petty criticism of detail; to gnaw (at ones thoughts, consicience, etc.) - n 'A minor criticism'.

It's english I guess, and doesnt have an American equivalent. Basically means there are a few minor things on the boat - the sort of thing you'd complain about if the boat were new, but you don't care about if it's 15 yrs old and bought to be used.

thanks for the info I'll do a compression check.

How do I tell externally if the engine is a HO?

Ric
11-30-2006, 05:34 PM
Welcome
Where is East Anglia?

OHC is not available in Inboard Ski Boats

Rallyspitman
11-30-2006, 05:46 PM
In england. Two thirds of the way down on the east side.
East as in East, Anglia as in Anglican......

starman205
11-30-2006, 06:39 PM
How do I tell externally if the engine is a HO?


Rally, You should be able to tell from the VIN number on the hull. Here is the link.

http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=160875&postcount=32

Footin
11-30-2006, 06:40 PM
More than anything I look at the overall condition of the boat. I mean the cleanliness of the hull (no major marks) to cuts or marks in the interior to even the cleaning of the bilge area. If a boat looks like it has been well cared for apperance wise, chances are the mechanics are in good shape.

Maintence records are just iceing on the cake.

Rallyspitman
11-30-2006, 06:53 PM
Welcome
Where is East Anglia?

OHC is not available in Inboard Ski Boats

Yep, my mistake. Rocker covers.

butter
11-30-2006, 07:19 PM
How do I tell externally if the engine is a HO?
Look at the ends of the heads, front or rear. If there are three raised bars in the casting, then you have GT40 heads, which means you have the HO engine. Two bars in the casting means you have the standard engine. The heads are the primary difference between the two engines.

Good luck!

butter
11-30-2006, 07:28 PM
Look at the last page of this thread: http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=4054&page=3&highlight=bars+heads

You will find a picture of a GT40P head with four bars. This is essentially what you are looking for, except you are looking for two or three bars.

Another indicator for the HO engine is two fuel inlets at the carburetor. This isn't a perfect way to tell, since it is not uncommon for the 4010 Holley carburetor, found on the HO engine, to be replaced by a different carburetor with only one fuel inlet.

Farmer Ted
11-30-2006, 07:38 PM
Welcome
Where is East Anglia?

OHC is not available in Inboard Ski Boats


when I lived there I once heard someone refer to it as the armpit of England....

not too bad of a place once you got used to the smell.....

André
11-30-2006, 07:49 PM
when I lived there I once heard someone refer to it as the armpit of England....

not too bad of a place once you got used to the smell.....
Ooouch!;)
Welcome rally!

TMCNo1
11-30-2006, 07:56 PM
The difference between the std 351 and the HO is basically the heads. Just a few more horsepower, 240 vs 285 IIRC.


And WELCOME, I about forgot to say it, I got distracted!

TMCNo1
11-30-2006, 07:59 PM
Rally, what exactly is a "niggle"?

Welcome to the board!:toast:


Yea, that scared me too, must be the El Nino (sp) effect!

trickskier
11-30-2006, 09:50 PM
NIGGLE - vi 'to busy oneself with petty criticism of detail; to gnaw (at ones thoughts, consicience, etc.) - n 'A minor criticism'.

OH, so you've already met TMC#1??? :uglyhamme

TMCNo1
11-30-2006, 10:27 PM
OH, so you've already met TMC#1??? :uglyhamme

Thanks, it's all in the niggleing! Does that make me a niggler! I better stop, before..........................................!

TMCNo1
11-30-2006, 10:29 PM
In my part of the country, in my part of town, they call it,

trickskier
11-30-2006, 10:31 PM
:uglyhamme Thanks, it's all in the niggleing! Does that make me a niggler! I better stop, before..........................................!
You're crackin me up #1!!!!

mash
11-30-2006, 10:40 PM
Welcome, Rallyspitman - that's a mouthfull.

As a new MC owner myself I can share a little bit. Take that boat out and give er heck, make sure she runs well, should hit about 43 ph on the speedo and be smooth, with no vibration. Don't be afraid to crank the wheel hard over and see how it performs, it'll turn on a dime. You'll notice the steering pulling to the right, that's normal, according to my friends here on TT.

I have a new to me '93 with a really worn prop shaft, I noticed a vibration and some noise in reverse when I test drove the boat, just figured it was normal. $500.00 mistake, made my wife real happy.

east tx skier
11-30-2006, 11:17 PM
Welcome. The high output 351 wasn't an option on the 91 if I recall correctly. Don't know if they were still using 454s or what. The 91s approved by the AWSA had the power slot transmission.

Rallyspitman
12-02-2006, 02:20 PM
^thanks for all the info, Piked it up yesterday - runs like a dream, starts on the button when hot etc. It's sitting in the driveway now, having spent the day messing with it, draining it down and puting the interior in the garage. Cant't wait until the spring, but I'm going to try and use it over Christmas............

ted shred
12-02-2006, 07:40 PM
Welcome
Where is East Anglia?

OHC is not available in Inboard Ski Boats

I think the Cadillac motors that where an option a few years ago where OHC.