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mitch
10-11-2006, 08:00 PM
Skied behind my buds 86 last weekend, and that wake is far and away the best I've ever skied (32mph 15' off open water). I'm not real good, but it's easy to notice when there;s nothing but bubbles and foam back there. It had been about a year since I was behind that boat and I was disappointed to ski behind my 205 the next day. Oddly, I think it's flatter than a 197 wake. What other years was that hull used?

Archimedes
10-11-2006, 08:22 PM
Have you skiied behind a 91-94 hull?

6ballsisall
10-11-2006, 08:30 PM
No doubt it is the best slalom wake out there, there just isn't a wake period! It beats IMO the 91-94 hull except maybe in real shortline stuff. I had an 86' and like you said, the wake, or lack thereof is superb!

H20skeefreek
10-11-2006, 08:50 PM
No doubt, they are the best, until you get into shortline, then the spray kills you (or a real windy day long line).

That hull was basically the same from '80-'89 maybe even as far back as '78. They made deck changes in '87, but the hull was pretty much the same for all of the '80's.

mitch
10-11-2006, 09:28 PM
No doubt, they are the best, until you get into shortline, then the spray kills you (or a real windy day long line).

That hull was basically the same from '80-'89 maybe even as far back as '78. They made deck changes in '87, but the hull was pretty much the same for all of the '80's.

My buddy has an 81 and there is a bump that's not there on the 86 hull?

6ballsisall
10-11-2006, 09:41 PM
IIRC, in 82' or 83' the hull was the same as the 86' in reference. Prior to that it was different.

BrianM
10-11-2006, 10:32 PM
86-90 all had the same hull. The 86 used the old (85) deck and the new hull design. 85 and prior (back to 78 or 79) was a different hull.

H20skeefreek
10-11-2006, 11:15 PM
are you sure about that? they look exactly the same to me ('85 and '86). I'm pretty sure the hull was the same from at least '80 to '90.

tph
10-11-2006, 11:31 PM
I think there are minor differences. For one thing, in '86 they flatened out the transom side of the powerslot on the bottom. That may account for the lack of the "bump".

tdaines@hotmail.com
10-12-2006, 05:02 AM
There may be minor differences, but I agree - any boat in that range has the best overall wake ever.

I think the problem is that as time went on they had to make boats more comfortable in all situations, especially in rough water, so they ended up going to a deeper-V hull, and depending on "technology" to come up with a hull design that still makes a nice wake. Also newer boats are heavier due to more options, etc.

I love the oldies...

TIM

edwinfuqua
10-12-2006, 05:39 AM
are you sure about that? they look exactly the same to me ('85 and '86). I'm pretty sure the hull was the same from at least '80 to '90.

I have a blue 85 PS 190 barefoot special. I repuilt and balanced the engine late last summer. It has a 454HO/ 400Ft Lbs 1100-6000. Peak HP at about 4300. I put all new pistons, new 750HP rods, new Stainless one piece valves, bored it 60 over, hydrolic roller cam and lifters, new exaust system - straight pipe. It's in good condition and gets fair fuel mileage if you're not doing 5000 -5500 all the time. OJ 4 blade prop 13.5x19.5. I also have a 14.4 4 blade OJ 22 and I have a stainless 3 blade 14x20.

Just how bad do you want it. Have the barefoot bar too. Just to let you get some idea - I have 4700 in the engine. It was built by a race mechanic and dynoed at his shop.

If you're pulling somebody up and they get out of the water and you don't let off they can't hang on. Sitting in the stern seat if you don't hold on you'll be in the back seat or off the boat on take off.

Edwin

shepherd
10-12-2006, 08:06 AM
No doubt, they are the best, until you get into shortline, then the spray kills you (or a real windy day long line).



I can vouch for that. The wake on my '90 is awesome (i.e., small), but the spray will almost knock you off the ski at short line. I decided that when I get into 32 off, I'm going to have to trade that boat for a newer one. Even at 15 off last weekend, skiing into a 10 mph wind was painful. But the lake was blown out anyways so it didn't really matter...

H20skeefreek
10-12-2006, 08:49 AM
I have a blue 85 PS 190 barefoot special. I repuilt and balanced the engine late last summer. It has a 454HO/ 400Ft Lbs 1100-6000. Peak HP at about 4300. I put all new pistons, new 750HP rods, new Stainless one piece valves, bored it 60 over, hydrolic roller cam and lifters, new exaust system - straight pipe. It's in good condition and gets fair fuel mileage if you're not doing 5000 -5500 all the time. OJ 4 blade prop 13.5x19.5. I also have a 14.4 4 blade OJ 22 and I have a stainless 3 blade 14x20.

Just how bad do you want it. Have the barefoot bar too. Just to let you get some idea - I have 4700 in the engine. It was built by a race mechanic and dynoed at his shop.

If you're pulling somebody up and they get out of the water and you don't let off they can't hang on. Sitting in the stern seat if you don't hold on you'll be in the back seat or off the boat on take off.

Edwin
??? Who are you trying to sell the boat to? I already have an '85.

What does 1100-6000 peak HP at 4300 mean? I know that you aren't suggesting that the boat has 1100 HP?

H20skeefreek
10-12-2006, 08:57 AM
Shepherd,

I made the same commitment. Get to 32 off and I get a '93 Stars and Stripes with LT-1.

shepherd
10-12-2006, 09:35 AM
I'm at 28 off right now, so hopefully I'll be shopping for a new boat next summer... :)

MCsJCPs
10-12-2006, 10:09 AM
i didn't think i could be more proud of my '86.

until now.

MMCCAR12
10-12-2006, 10:41 AM
Try a 1982 Ski Centerion, you will be blown away. It makes my 83 MC look like an XO. My BUDDY has one and you cant wake board behind it. Their aint nothin.

MYMC
10-12-2006, 10:48 AM
Sorry but for short line I'll take my 2007.

cep89
10-14-2006, 10:13 PM
I just bought an 86 prostar 190. I got a chance to wakeboard behind it and I had a hard time getting any air. I guess I will go back to salom sking.

88 PS190
10-14-2006, 10:37 PM
more air with more ballast...

TMCNo1
10-15-2006, 10:21 AM
FYI, the ProStar model designation was not used for MC's DD inboard until 1987, according to MC, 1978 to 1986 was marketed as a 19' Tournament Ski Boat. Then in 1987 when the TriStar model was introduced, then they named the 19' Tournament Ski Boat as the Prostar model.
Link to owners manuals..........http://www.mastercraft.com/index.php?znfAction=Manual