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kalanic
10-03-2006, 12:11 PM
Anyone see the latest headlines?? They are going to test nukes & blame us! These guy are freakin crazy!!!

east tx skier
10-03-2006, 12:28 PM
Plus, do we have any idea how f$&kin' busy he is!

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/32/b6/Team_America__World_Police_In_Theaters.jpg

Workin' 4 Toys
10-03-2006, 12:33 PM
Durka, Durka......:purplaugh

east tx skier
10-03-2006, 12:43 PM
Your powers are fading Ms. Sarandon! 8p

PendO
10-03-2006, 01:00 PM
Anyone see the latest headlines?? They are going to test nukes & blame us! These guy are freakin crazy!!!

They will likely just blow up their own country ...

Chief
10-03-2006, 01:04 PM
If they don't blow themselves up, I'll go finish the job! Can anyone say "Pre-emptive strike"? Those crazy basTards have nothing to lose.

RexDog1
10-03-2006, 01:10 PM
Pyongyana said it is for “self-defense” why worry……………….

I trust him…………for a crazy man……..all fellow Californians “DUCK”

"Crazy Old MAN":eek3:

M-Funf
10-03-2006, 02:00 PM
Pyongyana said it is for “self-defense” why worry……………….

I trust him…………for a crazy man……..all fellow Californians “DUCK”

"Crazy Old MAN":eek3:

They don't have anything that can reach our shores, do they?

kalanic
10-03-2006, 02:01 PM
They say West Coast & Hawaii. I doubt anyone knows for sure. They wont tell us those things.

JimN
10-03-2006, 02:38 PM
I think that if anyone does a preemptive strike, it may be Japan. They're in the line of fire. OTOH, we already have ships in the area that can shoot their bottle rockets out of the air. We have bases in S Korea, Hawaii and Japan and for them to actually aim something over here would be completely asinine. N Korea has virtually nothing to offer the people there. S Korea has been sending humanitarian aid north for years. KJI is completely irrational and about the only thing he can sell is nuclear technology, which is perfect for Iran, since they want more of it.

This is gonna get real effin' ugly. N Korea has been dealing with Iran, they hate anyone who doesn't agree with them, Chavez is insane and was just in Iran, Russia is making nice with all of them and the US is in the center, geographically.

Personally, since Chavez plans to pull Venezualan oil out of the US market, we should all boycott Citgo now. He can KMA, for all I care. Now, Paraguay wants to mess with us. That's not far enough from Mexico to not be a problem and if we don't beef up the border, we're gonna be up to our armpits in people who hate our guts. They hate us from a distance now but with no border security, we're really gonna be screwed.

Thanks, Nancy Pelosi, etc

PendO
10-03-2006, 02:45 PM
I think that if anyone does a preemptive strike, it may be Japan. They're in the line of fire. OTOH, we already have ships in the area that can shoot their bottle rockets out of the air. We have bases in S Korea, Hawaii and Japan and for them to actually aim something over here would be completely asinine. N Korea has virtually nothing to offer the people there. S Korea has been sending humanitarian aid north for years. KJI is completely irrational and about the only thing he can sell is nuclear technology, which is perfect for Iran, since they want more of it.

This is gonna get real effin' ugly. N Korea has been dealing with Iran, they hate anyone who doesn't agree with them, Chavez is insane and was just in Iran, Russia is making nice with all of them and the US is in the center, geographically.

Personally, since Chavez plans to pull Venezualan oil out of the US market, we should all boycott Citgo now. He can KMA, for all I care. Now, Paraguay wants to mess with us. That's not far enough from Mexico to not be a problem and if we don't beef up the border, we're gonna be up to our armpits in people who hate our guts. They hate us from a distance now but with no border security, we're really gonna be screwed.

Thanks, Nancy Pelosi, etc

well said ... and it is not like China is too happy about it either.

JimN
10-03-2006, 03:11 PM
China may act as if they don't like it but NK is communist so it would be losing face to go against KJI on this. Besides, the nukes won't need to go over China, anyway. Unless they just happen to go off-course.

If they actually do launch nukes, I hope they land on their own heads. It'll be easy enough to see where they go/are from, too. Everyone has satellite tracking, at this point.

3event
10-03-2006, 03:31 PM
I'm down with JimN there.

We are rightfully concerned about future victims of NK policies. It's also a tragedy for the common citizens of that country. This is a government that let them starve in a famine rather than accept help. The repression and control is something else, and most Americans (myself included) know little of what life is like there since we have no access to it. It's wrong for millions of people to have to live like they do. To use a politically charged term, what they need is regime change on a huge and comprehensive scale.

Nevertheless, if it comes down to pending threats against us, fire away!

Chief
10-03-2006, 03:58 PM
Funny thing about the United States: Chavez is a raging lunatic and guess who has gas stations on all military installations? Thats right CITGO, how does this happen?

Boycott all CITGO'S! When that oil is just piling up for the lunatic those words will get softer!

6ballsisall
10-03-2006, 04:19 PM
The North Koreans can SHAMPOO MY CROTCH!!!!!!!!!!

djhuff
10-03-2006, 04:28 PM
The problem with boycotting Citgo is that you will only hurt the individual franchise owners. Oil is sold to whoever will buy it. You could very well go to a Citgo gas station and get BP gas and vice versa. It's a commodity.

Granite_33
10-03-2006, 05:31 PM
Funny how all these countries hate us, but we continue to have record immigration (both legal and illegal) from the citizens of these contries because they want a better life. Like all else, what is reported in the media tends to slant to one side......and once you talk to someone from that country, they tell you how it really is. Anyone from North Korea out there wanna spout off and tell me the Nirvana they live in?

Sort of funny how KJI was elected with 100% of the vote...as was Saddam

The idiot bean eater in Venezuela is only popular due to his constant giving to the poor................which starts a funny cycle.....in which once the poor get handouts....they continue to expect handouts, and do nothing while waiting for the handouts.

The world is full of failed socialist and communist governments........yet I hear more from the leaders of those states that say that the US, Free Markets and an open society are bound to fail.............all while putting down uprisings in their own countries by the discontented masses.

Funny...........if it wasn't so sad that so many media people report on the idiots of the world bashing the US thus giving credence to their rants.

And don't get me started on Africa ...............:mad: .........:shocked: ................:rant: .............

That sulfur that Chavez smelled was the remnants of his bean burrito the previous evening...........

Granite_33
10-03-2006, 05:41 PM
The problem with boycotting Citgo is that you will only hurt the individual franchise owners. Oil is sold to whoever will buy it. You could very well go to a Citgo gas station and get BP gas and vice versa. It's a commodity.


Chavez fired most of the oil workers that were employed by the Venezuelan gov't after the 2002 - 2003 strike. Worse yet, in order to collect unemployment those workers had to have an official form from the gov't stating that they are officially out of work...........Chavez refused then and still refuses to give forms to the oil workers that struck. No forms, no benefits....moreover, no ability to go get another job.

Oh by the way..........there is now a huge increase in the number of Venezuelan citizens that want to?????????? You guessed it.........migrate to the US!!! Hmmmmmm..........people wanting to leave Nirvana???

Chavez is a blithering idiot......but hey....he did read that book by Noam!!!!

Hoosier Bob
10-03-2006, 05:44 PM
I think we should all sing the Team America song together to show our support! I'm so ronry! I would agree there are many much closer who have some power to burn that should be concerned. Who needs California anyway?8p

RexDog1
10-03-2006, 06:03 PM
I think we should all sing the Team America song together to show our support! I'm so ronry! I would agree there are many much closer who have some power to burn that should be concerned. Who needs California anyway?8p

Hay ????????????????????:confused:

X2M
10-03-2006, 06:21 PM
Who needs California anyway?8p

I need California because I kinda like living.

Besides, lots of good beer comes from Cali...

;) 8p :rolleyes:

kalanic
10-03-2006, 06:33 PM
Alot of happy Mastercraft owners here as well!

RexDog1
10-03-2006, 06:38 PM
I need California because I kinda like living.

Besides, lots of good beer comes from Cali...

;) 8p :rolleyes:


MMMMMMMMMMMMMM…….BEER:cool:

Hoosier Bob
10-03-2006, 06:41 PM
I forgot about the beer, I am very sorry! Wait a minute I should really only care about Colorado and Ireland! I figured that would get atleast a couple of posts out of you guys. Take care!:o

yzwiley
10-03-2006, 06:46 PM
The only entity involved in the headlines that scares me is the Bush Administration. They seem to be causing more problems than anyone else out there and are only giving US Citizens a bad rap throughout the world.

Hoosier Bob
10-03-2006, 06:53 PM
Can't you guys let us borrow the "Terminater" to handle this? I am sure the world will be a perfect place come next election!;)

Upper Michigan Prostar190
10-03-2006, 08:24 PM
The North Koreans can SHAMPOO MY CROTCH!!!!!!!!!!
FINALLY, the voice of reason shows up here:uglyhamme :uglyhamme OH I was waiting for something like that out of you JR. LOL!! Maybe a good solution for this would be for Lakey to let them all borrow the hammock for a while? maybe they would be friends then....?

But seriously now, is there any country in the world that does NOT hate us?:confused:

6ballsisall
10-03-2006, 08:35 PM
FINALLY, the voice of reason shows up here:uglyhamme :uglyhamme OH I was waiting for something like that out of you JR. LOL!! Maybe a good solution for this would be for Lakey to let them all borrow the hammock for a while? maybe they would be friends then....?



Thats right!!! Get that MOFO from N Korea on the phone. I'll tell him what I think, heck, I'll even send him a bottle of Suave. :D

But seriously now, is there any country in the world that does NOT hate us?:confused:


What can you say, it's lonely at the top!!

BriEOD
10-03-2006, 08:48 PM
Anyone see the latest headlines?? They are going to test nukes & blame us! These guy are freakin crazy!!!
Hmm...your in Vacaville right next to Travis AFB. That is probably a strategic target for NK. Watch your 6.

Hoosier Bob
10-03-2006, 09:01 PM
So how many North Korean members do you really think we have? Come to think of it I have read very little information titled "Ski North Korea!" I'll also bet the next MasterCraft exported to North Korea will be the first and last. Being as though our military is manned by the baddest, most heavily equiped and most prepared freebirds to ever wear the colors I would relax. That is of course if you support the Bush Administration. Anyway no skiers is a sure sign of a chaotic state and me being me would rather not have them around!:o
Here's an Idea, Ban everything we all love from North Korea! Stop Ebaying with anyone from North Korea. How will they support their Nuclear program if we stop ebaying in North Korea! We should stop all of the exports of US automobiles to North Korea! Stop exports of all kinds to North Korea! Man I should run for office! This crap is easy!:D

Footin
10-03-2006, 09:20 PM
I say we bomb'em.

Hoosier Bob
10-03-2006, 09:27 PM
Go Bucks! WWWD?
(WHAT WOULD WOODY DO?)

Upper Michigan Prostar190
10-03-2006, 09:30 PM
Man I should run for office! This crap is easy!:D
Hey, I won that election here on the board last year.:) Youra natural HB! Me, Lakey, JR, Milk,Erk, we can all be your campaign cabinet. Remember those awesome hats we had???:cool:

JimN
10-03-2006, 09:30 PM
Citgo is the official oil company of Venezuela and if the individual station owners are smart, they'll get a different franchise. Their gas comes from Citgo, unless they need it faster or don't care where they get it from. Gas is a commodity but the station owners have to go by the rules of the franchise. If they don't see a problem with supporting Chavez, they'll have nobody to blame but themselves if the US bans Venezuelan oil from the US.

There's no such thing as a free society where the president gets 100% of the vote. Period, end of story.

yzwiley- N Korea doesn't scare you? Iran doesn't scare you? Russia supporting Iran doesn't scare you? The problems with Iran started in the '70s, not during Bush's admin. N Korea has a POS dictator who doesn't give a rat's butt about anything but his own "glory". He also thinks that China will back him if he lobs something our way. Don't bet on it, China knows where an awful lot of goods are going and they don't want to lose the US as a major consumer. Russia has nukes and under the right circumstances, may sell some to Iran, which would help their money problems. They already sell a lot of munitions to the dirtbags of the world, why stop there when they can tip the scales against the US. Like I said before, this is gonna get effin' ugly.

The rest of the world may hate the US government and/or their policies, but they all want to be like us, they want what we have, they want our freedoms, our lifestyle and in light of all of the immigrants, want everything they say they hate.

Hoosier- what do we get from N Korea? As far as I know, nothing.

Hoosier Bob
10-03-2006, 09:37 PM
Exactly Jim! As far as I know I have never enjoyed a North Korean frothy beverage in my 41 years of existance! They offer DI**! We already have plenty of that! They are the takers, non-producers and haters of the world we love and enjoy. Everything could be better! I have never seen a product that could not be improved upon. The USA is the best product there is but yes could be improved. Sorry, I don't care what Frenchie, N Korea or anyone else says about ole' Hoosier! I only care about what my people say period! I got your backs!8p

Farmer Ted
10-03-2006, 11:00 PM
Anyone see the latest headlines?? They are going to test nukes & blame us! These guy are freakin crazy!!!

I read the story on CNN but did not see where it said they would blame us?????

If those no rice eating, cardboard box living, garlic breath stinking, non MasterCraft owning fudpuckers want to test a nuke let them. By the time they figure out what they're doing maybe they'll garner a Darwin Award.

For all the Chicken Littles who are concerned that the sky is falling, we're all over it.... http://www.fas.org/ssp/bmd/index.html

Please keep in mind the information in this post was derived from unclassified sources and is purely the thoughts, ideas, and rantings of the author and do not reflect the endorsement of my employer. This post was not intended as legal advice, I am not a lawyer, nor have I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express in the past month.

Leroy
10-03-2006, 11:13 PM
Japan is willing to go in first on this one I think. That is if China doesn't. Iran is still the threat since they have a great cash flow from the oil to fund all kinds of stuff.

I still don't worry about either or the little fat guy in Argentina. These thugs are something like the Panama leader or Libya leader or Castro, or take your pick of the era thug.....

LakePirate
10-03-2006, 11:19 PM
Oh wow, I am going to disagree with JimN..

There is no telling who produced the oil or refined the oil that you are buying at the Citgo/Chevron-Texaco/RaceTrack/QuickTrip/BP-Amoco.

What you are buying at the Citgo station are Citgo detergents. Same goes for Chevron/Texaco and BP/Amoco. The business part all comes from the same tank.

And so you know if you boycott Citgo on principal, they will be selling gasolines with Citgo detergents at the discount gas stations, unbeknownst to you.

kalanic
10-04-2006, 08:26 AM
North Korea, in its statement, said the U.S.'s ``increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula.''

The retards blame us!


I read the story on CNN but did not see where it said they would blame us?????

If those no rice eating, cardboard box living, garlic breath stinking, non MasterCraft owning fudpuckers want to test a nuke let them. By the time they figure out what they're doing maybe they'll garner a Darwin Award.

For all the Chicken Littles who are concerned that the sky is falling, we're all over it.... http://www.fas.org/ssp/bmd/index.html

Please keep in mind the information in this post was derived from unclassified sources and is purely the thoughts, ideas, and rantings of the author and do not reflect the endorsement of my employer. This post was not intended as legal advice, I am not a lawyer, nor have I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express in the past month.

kalanic
10-04-2006, 08:32 AM
Ahhh! Right you are! But if I were you I'd be more concerned about a hurricane that a freakin nuke hittin a Air Base near by. The storms are lurkin!

Hmm...your in Vacaville right next to Travis AFB. That is probably a strategic target for NK. Watch your 6.

Farmer Ted
10-04-2006, 08:33 AM
North Korea, in its statement, said the U.S.'s ``increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula.''

The retards blame us!

That's pretty mild rhetoric coming from them. For a good laugh check this sight out www.kcna.co.jp it's their "official news agency"

kalanic
10-04-2006, 08:39 AM
That is pretty funny! I want what ever that guy smokes!

Granite_33
10-04-2006, 08:59 AM
By the time they figure out what they're doing maybe they'll garner a Darwin Award.[/SIZE]


When I think of Mr. ILL and NK nuclear tests, I think of a a stupid frat prank that has a college age kid, drunk off his a$$, bending over with a bottle rocket sticking out of his crack.........laughing.

They know its dangerous, could get burned, could blow their N*ts off, but hey......lets do it so we can say we did!!!

The NK news agencies pipe their propaganda all over the country. Nothing, absolutely nothing comes from the outside........so to NK, yes, the US is on the brink of Nuclear war with them............retards.

DanC
10-04-2006, 11:27 AM
The only entity involved in the headlines that scares me is the Bush Administration. They seem to be causing more problems than anyone else out there and are only giving US Citizens a bad rap throughout the world.

Then you have a short memory or are too young to remember the following, all before Bush.

1979
Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. 14 were later released. The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days on the day of President Reagan's inauguration.
1982–1991
Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released.
1983
April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 marines.
Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait: Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.
1984
Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. 2 Americans killed.
1985
April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.
Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya.
Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.
1986
April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.
1988
Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families.
1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.
1995
Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen.
1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.
1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.

kalanic
10-04-2006, 11:32 AM
Damn thats some history there!

6ballsisall
10-04-2006, 11:33 AM
Funny how peeps are always quick to blame issues on the one that is currently in the lead chair. As mentioned above ^^^ and in other posts, at that level of leadership actions can take years beyond their service before results can take place.

JimN
10-04-2006, 11:49 AM
Lake- so the gas isn't from Citgo? Venezuela supplies ~18% of the oil that we buy from outside sources. While Citgo is now based in Houston, it's owned by Venezuela and Chavez has nationalized the oil industry there. The additives may come from here and the station owners may suffer but I'm sure the other oil companies would be happy to have better market penetration. Too bad they can't find another source for their oil, rather than Middle Eastern countries.

DanC- thanks for the dates and places.

Granite_33
10-04-2006, 11:57 AM
Then you have a short memory or are too young to remember the following, all before Bush.

1979
Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. 14 were later released. The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days on the day of President Reagan's inauguration.
1982–1991
Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released.
1983
April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 marines.
Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait: Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.
1984
Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. 2 Americans killed.
1985
April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.
Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya.
Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.
1986
April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.
1988
Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families.
1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.
1995
Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen.
1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.
1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.


All great reasons why the middle east...particularly Iran, Syria should be turned into huge panes of glass..........

6ballsisall
10-04-2006, 12:01 PM
All great reasons why the middle east...particularly Iran, Syria should be turned into huge panes of glass..........

TRU DAT!!!!!!!!!!

LakePirate
10-04-2006, 12:30 PM
Ok ICBW, but the way I understand the supply lines of the Gasoline/Oil industry is as follows.

1 - Purchase of Crude Oil by refineries (could be Venezuelan Oil purchased by ChevronTexaco refinery)

2 - Oil is refined and sold to local distributors (Walthall oil in Macon, Ga)

3 - Walthall oil sells gas to it's customers Shell/BP/RaceTrack from the same tank just adding different detergents for each "brand" or a generic detergent for non-labeled stations.

4 - Local C-Store sells gasoline under the Citgo brand, but is really selling Citgo vs. ChevronTexaco detergents the meat of the gas is the same.


While I am sure there are instances where ChevronTexaco pumps it out of the field, refines it, distributes it, and sells it at the pump as ChevronTexaco gas it is not the common practice.

If we look at this economically the Oil Pumping/Excavating division is looking to get the highest price per barrel as possible. While the refiners are looking at buying the oil as cheaply as they can. So the smart business decision would be for ChevronTexaco to sell their crude to say BP for 50 bucks a barrel and buy Citgo Crude Oil for 49$ a barrel. Making money coming and going. It is all black and comes out of the ground.

It would be unwise to set up individual distribution networks throughout the US for each oil company. Enter in the Regional Distribution center. They have the ability to purchase gas from several refineries. They obviously make the smart business decision to purchase the cheapest gas they can get their hands on.

These regional companies are responsible for getting gas to you at the pump from the local Chevron Station. This is where the serious business of what we pay at the pump takes place.

Just sit on a busy street where there are a lot of gas stations and watch the same truck go from station to station. If not the same truck, notice that it is the same company and there is not a Citgo Delta on the side of it even though there is one on the pump.


All that to say, if you want to chap Venezuela's arse, grow some corn, that is the only way to keep them from making money, that is of course that the E-85 refinery is not using Venezuelan oil to make the E-85. May the circle be unbroken.

LakePirate
10-04-2006, 12:31 PM
All great reasons why the middle east...particularly Iran, Syria should be turned into huge panes of glass..........


I have always loved the turn it into glass sentiment.

Ric
10-04-2006, 01:53 PM
The only entity involved in the headlines that scares me is the Bush Administration. They seem to be causing more problems than anyone else out there and are only giving US Citizens a bad rap throughout the world. That Bush is a cowboy isn't he.:rolleyes:

Workin' 4 Toys
10-04-2006, 02:36 PM
I've heard more than once, don't ever let politics and/or religion come up between friends.

Hoosier Bob
10-04-2006, 06:20 PM
That is why I have chosen to not have friends!:o

Workin' 4 Toys
10-05-2006, 08:09 AM
That is why I have chosen to not have friends!:o
I doubt the "choice" was yours smackstick......8p

milkmania
10-08-2006, 11:26 PM
update:

update:


Report: N. Korea Performs Nuclear Test

POSTED: 9:55 pm CDT October 8, 2006



SEOUL, South Korea -- The Yonhap news agency reports South Korean government officials say the North has performed its first-ever nuclear weapons test.

But South Korean officials couldn't immediately confirm the report.

Yonhap reports that South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun has convened a meeting of security advisers over the issue. And the agency said intelligence about the test has been exchanged between concerned countries.


The North said last week it would conduct a nuclear test as part of its deterrent against a possible U.S. invasion.

The director of South Korea's monitoring center that is watching for a test with sound and seismic detectors has declined to immediately comment on the reported test.

The U.S. Geological Survey said it has not detected seismic activity in North Korea, although it's not clear if a blast would be strong enough for its sensors.

JimN
10-08-2006, 11:48 PM
We'll see if it really happened. Remember, KJI shot 21 for 18 holes the first time he went golfing. Could just be a bunch of BS (I hope so, anyway).

LakePirate- that may be the way it is where you are but we have a good sized Citgo facility here that has probably 10 1Million gallon tanks for gas. I see their tankers, Chevron, Sunoco, some two-tone green ones and I'll look for the other brands. My guess is that most of the gas in town is Citgo.

Farmer Ted
10-08-2006, 11:49 PM
update:

update:


Report: N. Korea Performs Nuclear Test

POSTED: 9:55 pm CDT October 8, 2006



SEOUL, South Korea -- The Yonhap news agency reports South Korean government officials say the North has performed its first-ever nuclear weapons test.

But South Korean officials couldn't immediately confirm the report.

Yonhap reports that South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun has convened a meeting of security advisers over the issue. And the agency said intelligence about the test has been exchanged between concerned countries.


The North said last week it would conduct a nuclear test as part of its deterrent against a possible U.S. invasion.

The director of South Korea's monitoring center that is watching for a test with sound and seismic detectors has declined to immediately comment on the reported test.

The U.S. Geological Survey said it has not detected seismic activity in North Korea, although it's not clear if a blast would be strong enough for its sensors.


5 bucks says Iran will make the news tomorrow in an attempt to refocus world media attention back on them, or....

this could be a vast right wing conspiracy to divert attention away from the Florida pedophile....

edwinfuqua
10-08-2006, 11:50 PM
What we ought to do is find a fault, like a huge voulcano location, and help them do an underground test..... act like we are helping, and we are, but only to create a flood of hot ash and lava on the northern part of Korea.

Farmer Ted
10-08-2006, 11:52 PM
What we ought to do is find a fault, like a huge voulcano location, and help them do an underground test..... act like we are helping, and we are, but only to create a flood of hot ash and lava on the northern part of Korea.


I think the Frogs already did that back in the 70s or 80s near Tahiti

caused an earthquake/tsunami*

HB disclaimer, details are fuzzy as I've had a few CLs

Ric
10-09-2006, 12:11 AM
5 bucks says Iran will make the news tomorrow in an attempt to refocus world media attention back on them, or....

this could be a vast right wing conspiracy to divert attention away from the Florida pedophile....Billary might also be one of those attempting to refucus the voters

Workin' 4 Toys
10-09-2006, 09:04 AM
Interesting turn of events over the last few hours....:eek:

kalanic
10-09-2006, 09:07 AM
Yeah the UN meeting should be intresting! These nut cases are not bluffing!

RexDog1
10-09-2006, 09:56 AM
Don’t worry the UN will take care of them……………..Right:rant:

kalanic
10-09-2006, 10:01 AM
UN will hide behind US.

TMCNo1
10-09-2006, 10:24 AM
I think KJI worked as a child laborer in a firecracker factory in his younger years and just thinks he's playing with stuff made for the SC/GA/FL Fireworks stores! Idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3event
10-09-2006, 10:31 AM
We told you before, don't do that nuclear thing.

If you don't listen, we will have to ........ tell you louder ......

And if you still don't listen, we will just have to get out our really serious voices. And maybe even convince the French to say something useful about it.

So you were warned !!!

:D

Ric
10-09-2006, 10:51 AM
UN: "Watch it mister. We are really tough on nukes and oppression"

Farmer Ted
10-09-2006, 10:52 AM
it will be interesting to see the course of action the UN takes when the South Korean guy takes over for Koffi Anan as Secretary General.

I mean we have to give them at least 18 resolutions (Iraq set the standard for that) to violate before any action is taken.

I also think that the Foley fiasco cost the Republicans dearly this November, Jim Jong King Kong just punted back their way.

Ric
10-09-2006, 10:55 AM
that S korean nomination seems like just another figurative move as well

RexDog1
10-09-2006, 03:33 PM
“The UN Security Council has strongly condemned North Korea's claim to have tested a nuclear weapon underground.”

Well “strongly condemned” that should do it????


The UN likes words like diplomacy, embargo, resolution, sanctions,
"Strongly" condemned, and all for sh,t
This is so much BS and all we are going to do is talk talk talk but what can we do
They have us by the short hairs, we will do nothing

TMCNo1
10-09-2006, 03:40 PM
Till it becomes another "Iraqinam"!

Farmer Ted
10-09-2006, 04:17 PM
“The UN Security Council has strongly condemned North Korea's claim to have tested a nuclear weapon underground.”

Well “strongly condemned” that should do it????


The UN likes words like diplomacy, embargo, resolution, sanctions,
"Strongly" condemned, and all for sh,t
This is so much BS and all we are going to do is talk talk talk but what can we do
They have us by the short hairs, we will do nothing


Well what more would you expect from a forum that demands consensus. In the security council anyone member can veto a resolution and you're back to square one.

I was stationed with a NATO unit for 3 years, I'm not talking about a USAF unit Chopped to NATO. Straight up NATO. If anything was to be done by NATO the NAC (North Atlantic Council) had to unanimously agree or it would not be authorized.

So imagine trying to deal militarily with France, although they're not officially a member state they play a huge part in the daily operations and lobbying partner nations if they don't like the direction something is going.

The UN is a worthless organization, well not completely they do good stuff distributing medicine and food to poverty stricken countries but when it comes down to the "important" stuff like Saddam Hussien, Iran/North Korea's nuclear ambitions the UN is useless.

The thing to fear is Japanese militarization which will "force" the Chinese into an arms race with Japan and then you've got the Cold War V2.0 on your hands. Couple this with North Korea and Iran doing something stupid competing for headlines.

That's some scary sh1t.

*just my opinoin nothing based on facts or otherwise

JimN
10-09-2006, 04:22 PM
I haven't heard anything about Iran today. Yet. Maybe he's planning something proportionate.

east tx skier
10-09-2006, 04:27 PM
Heck of an October surprise.

Ric
10-09-2006, 04:36 PM
Heck of an October surprise. The thought crossed my mind as well

east tx skier
10-09-2006, 04:38 PM
The thought crossed my mind as well

Not what I would've expected (and certainly not typical to say the least).