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ZIPPY98
09-28-2006, 10:54 PM
I Really Like The Navy Blue Metal Flake Also For Special Reasons Was Wantig To Hear What Oters Opinions Are

erkoehler
09-28-2006, 11:00 PM
Looks good, just keep a good coat of wax on it and avoid scratches at all costs.

One suggestion....be careful what colors you put with the metal flake, you don't want to end up with a bass boat.

We have had silver, red, and blue metal flake come through the shop, and none have looked "bad".

erkoehler
09-28-2006, 11:04 PM
How about this one:

stevo137
09-28-2006, 11:06 PM
How about this one:
That definitely looks like a "bass boat"! :D

erkoehler
09-28-2006, 11:10 PM
hmmm...not finding any real good combos tonight :(

erkoehler
09-28-2006, 11:14 PM
Kind of like this one.....

6ballsisall
09-28-2006, 11:18 PM
^^^^Thats kinda PIMP.

ZIPPY98
09-28-2006, 11:23 PM
Looks good, just keep a good coat of wax on it and avoid scratches at all costs.

One suggestion....be careful what colors you put with the metal flake, you don't want to end up with a bass boat.

We have had silver, red, and blue metal flake come through the shop, and none have looked "bad".
CAN DEFINETLY SEE THAT POINT ALSO ABOUT THE BASS BOAT I WAS THINKING OF NAVY BLUE METAL FLAKE WHITE HULL AND KHAKI ACCENT

6ballsisall
09-28-2006, 11:24 PM
Zippy, first off, welcome to the board. And just so you know. Erkle here is the resident MC salesman. Just so you know, you only are allowed 50 pm's in your account. I'd bet by know Erk has sent you close to 50 trying to sell you a boat. :D

erkoehler
09-28-2006, 11:28 PM
How about this one?

ZIPPY98
09-28-2006, 11:34 PM
Zippy, first off, welcome to the board. And just so you know. Erkle here is the resident MC salesman. Just so you know, you only are allowed 50 pm's in your account. I'd bet by know Erk has sent you close to 50 trying to sell you a boat. :D
I SEE THAT HOWEVER HE HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL

6ballsisall
09-28-2006, 11:35 PM
I SEE THAT HOWEVER HE HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL


I am just messin around. You'll see after hangin around here. I am the resident dumb arse. :D Erk is a good egg.

erkoehler
09-28-2006, 11:36 PM
So, what's the next color choices?

6ballsisall
09-28-2006, 11:36 PM
So, what's the next color choices?


Uhhh......... less expensive than the current one????

ZIPPY98
09-28-2006, 11:39 PM
All Is Cool Nice X7 By The Way Was Curious About The Kgb Ballast System

erkoehler
09-28-2006, 11:40 PM
This is starting to grow on me :)

6ballsisall
09-28-2006, 11:40 PM
Nice X7 By The Way

Thanks!! She's yours for the asking price. I bet I could even arrange deliver to Pittsburgh. ;)

erkoehler
09-28-2006, 11:40 PM
All Is Cool Nice X7 By The Way Was Curious About The Kgb Ballast System

KGB is not available on the X7/197. You'd have to step up to either the X9/209.

ZIPPY98
09-28-2006, 11:43 PM
KGB is not available on the X7/197. You'd have to step up to either the X9/209.
IS THERE ANY BALLAST AS AN OPTION?

6ballsisall
09-28-2006, 11:44 PM
IS THERE ANY BALLAST AS AN OPTION?
Yes sir. Man his a ballast bag. Erk would know the official name for it.

erkoehler
09-28-2006, 11:46 PM
You can get the rear ballast bag which is located under the rear seat. In order to fully fill the bag, the seat needs to be in the upright position.

ZIPPY98
09-28-2006, 11:50 PM
Yes sir. Man his a ballast bag. Erk would know the official name for it.
HOW HEAVY DOES IT FILL UP TO ALSO HOW DOES IT OPERATE AND IS THERE A GAUGE THANK YOU :headbang:headbang: :headbang:

6ballsisall
09-28-2006, 11:52 PM
HOW HEAVY DOES IT FILL UP TO ALSO HOW DOES IT OPERATE AND IS THERE A GAUGE THANK YOU :headbang:headbang: :headbang:


No gauge. Well I take that back. the guage is turn around and look at the bag and gauge how full it is. :D Erk could probably give the exacts on it but I don't know why 400 lbs of ballast rings a bell. I am no boarder but peeps that ride behind it say they like it.

erkoehler
09-28-2006, 11:54 PM
Filled to capacity, you should be between 350 and 400 :)

erkoehler
09-29-2006, 12:03 AM
I'm still trying to come up w/ something using blue metal flake :confused:


Any suggestions?

east tx skier
09-29-2006, 12:06 AM
Try flanking the top of a metalflake center stripe with white. Leave the hull white, and break it up with a soft solid in the middle. Much more than the center stripe and you're flirting with rod holders and a trolling motor. Just one guy's opinion.

PendO
09-29-2006, 12:07 AM
Also, you can get the MTS ballast to go under/behind the passenger seat ...but it takes away a lot of the life jacket storage in my boat... probably the one feature I will skip the next time around ... but I can see how course skiers would like it to get the boat weighted the same on both sides for an even wake ...

erkoehler
09-29-2006, 12:09 AM
hmmmm.....

erkoehler
09-29-2006, 12:10 AM
Also, you can get the MTS ballast to go under/behind the passenger seat ...but it takes away a lot of the life jacket storage in my boat... probably the one feature I will skip the next time around ... but I can see how course skiers would like it to get the boat weighted the same on both sides for an even wake ...


I'd like to see this option installed under the floor like the hard tanks on the bigger "X" boats.

east tx skier
09-29-2006, 12:10 AM
Try grey (I know, I'm stuck in the 90s). I think that blue looks too much like urban camo for me. Probably just the picture.

erkoehler
09-29-2006, 12:11 AM
Grey like this right?

PendO
09-29-2006, 12:12 AM
I'd like to see this option installed under the floor like the hard tanks on the bigger "X" boats.

NO S!!!!! (god call) Erk, call up the design team, right after they fix Ric's trailer I want this addressed ... and I want a retro kit for mine:)

erkoehler
09-29-2006, 12:14 AM
Um yeah, cause its always fun to have your boat split in half :)


I'll mention it next time I see someone of importance....I question the clearance under the floor though. There isn't all that much depth there.

east tx skier
09-29-2006, 12:20 AM
Grey like this right?

That looks tan in the picture. I was thinking charcoal colored.

erkoehler
09-29-2006, 12:25 AM
That looks tan in the picture. I was thinking charcoal colored.


hmm....that is the khaki color, my mistake :(


This better:o

east tx skier
09-29-2006, 12:28 AM
Still not doing it for me. You know me though, resale red. I think you've got two stripes in that grey color though, right? Throw some white in there. Hell, I don't know. For me, I've got to have white on the top and bottom at least. Just strange like that. I love the old boats with the metalflake where they had two white stripes inside the center stripe. Then again they had purdy stars, too.

Metalflake is too much for me to worry with. I'm anal enough about banging the boat up as it is.

PendO
09-29-2006, 12:33 AM
Eastie ... would you go all white with red Mastercraft letters?

erkoehler
09-29-2006, 12:39 AM
Eastie....alittle something like this?

erkoehler
09-29-2006, 12:42 AM
Here's what I came up with online, and what it actually looks like :)

PendO
09-29-2006, 12:57 AM
I want a white hull with Red letters and decals that glow in the dark:)

erkoehler
09-29-2006, 01:03 AM
Your dealer should be able to arrange that. Order an all white 197 (2007) and then order the 2006 TT sticker kit :)

wtrjock
09-29-2006, 02:58 AM
We really like the Canadian Blue Metal Flake:

http://www.bandts.com/mastercraft/CoveJune2006_20.jpg

Diesel
09-29-2006, 10:46 AM
Here is the Navy with Slate Gray. If I could go back I would have gone with a Gunmetal flake stripe instead of the Slate and do the small strip between the Navy flake and Gunmetal flake in solid black.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3671/dsc00608r5hi.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6483/dsc00892rrxa0.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1806/dsc00995r5ru.jpg

BrianM
09-29-2006, 11:15 AM
If I were buying a new boat this would be it. Love the metal flake. Might go with viper red on the bottom instead of the small flake stripe.

Diesel
09-29-2006, 11:18 AM
If I were buying a new boat this would be it. Love the metal flake. Might go with viper red on the bottom instead of the small flake stripe.

I like that combo! Very classic. IMHO I think the solids and flakes do not mix well unless it is just an accent strip. If you are going to go with a flake go all flake

3event
09-29-2006, 11:45 AM
In 02 I didn't like the flake depth for main color, used it on accent strip instead.

With today's options, I would do something like Diesel's or BrianMs post here, those look verrryyyy NICE!

G-man
09-29-2006, 11:45 AM
I have had metal flake and won't have it again. It looks great, no doubt about it but: is very expensive to get repaired and have it look like it hasn't been repaired, small scratches don't polish out like gel coat, and it fades easily. What I learned is to have a waterline cover made to reduce sun exposure. Small scraches and be hidden with a sharpie. With that said it's your toy make it to your liking.

captain planet
09-29-2006, 11:49 AM
If I were buying a new boat this would be it. Love the metal flake. Might go with viper red on the bottom instead of the small flake stripe.
Brian, every time I get on the boat builder and play around, I never like anything better than exactly what you have right there. I have messed around with the small stripes, but I always come back to what you have there. Nice!

chudson
09-29-2006, 12:33 PM
I Really Like The Navy Blue Metal Flake Also For Special Reasons Was Wantig To Hear What Oters Opinions Are

I've got the blue metal flake on my 81 and I don't now how it compares to the newer boats but it looks great a little faded but I love it!!!

Datdude
09-29-2006, 12:40 PM
My boss bought a 2006 PS 197 this Summer and it is Navy metal flake with a silver metal flake accent stripe(white deck/white hull). I was surprised that you could not tell it was metal flake until you got very close to the boat. I think for flake(not my choice) it is a very sharp boat. It will be stored on a lift in our showroom for the Winter. As soon as it arrives I will take a pic and post it here.

rick s.
09-29-2006, 12:48 PM
We were up at Lake Berryessa a couple of weeks ago and saw (and talked to) another x45 owner, his boat was navy metal flake & white, mine is black/silver flake with white topsides. The navy blue was beautiful. The only two '45's on the lake and both "flaked"...

Diesel
09-29-2006, 01:13 PM
My boss bought a 2006 PS 197 this Summer and it is Navy metal flake with a silver metal flake accent stripe(white deck/white hull). I was surprised that you could not tell it was metal flake until you got very close to the boat. I think for flake(not my choice) it is a very sharp boat. It will be stored on a lift in our showroom for the Winter. As soon as it arrives I will take a pic and post it here.

That's why I choose Navy. Unless the sun is just right or you are up close it does not look like flake. The Canadian on the other hand was just too bright for me....................when the sun hit it it was almost blinding.

I don't understand all the people that say it is hard to care for. I have noticed no difference in keeping it clean or looking good vs. the solid. Scratches are scratches and look bad on flake or solid. I have not had to repair any major scratches yet but my fiberglass guy does not think it is too hard to match and does hundreds of bass boats each summer. Then again he has been doing fiberglass repair for most his life.

prostar205
09-29-2006, 01:22 PM
I have the red metal flake and I will agree that from a far distance (20+ feet), the boat does not look like a metal flake boat. You can only tell when you get up close (<10 feet). I really like the look and get compliments everytime people see it. The nice thing about metal flaked boats is they look great on the water and not very many people have them, relative to the number of boats on the water. It nice having something unique.

BrianM
09-29-2006, 02:08 PM
I might be tempted to go the reverse of my above scheme.

SkiDog
09-29-2006, 07:19 PM
I have the red metal flake and I will agree that from a far distance (20+ feet), the boat does not look like a metal flake boat. You can only tell when you get up close (<10 feet). I really like the look and get compliments everytime people see it. The nice thing about metal flaked boats is they look great on the water and not very many people have them, relative to the number of boats on the water. It nice having something unique.

Thats a damn sharp boat! I've had two metalflake boats. One Platinum Prostar and my current red X-30. I won't have another boat unless its flaked! Yea, they are hard to repair IF something happens, but they don't show light scratches, and they can be buffed out. I just had a couple buffed out last week! Nothin to it. In the pic, you can see the long scratch on the left side of the pic. It buffed out like it was never there.

Chief
09-30-2006, 11:01 PM
Yes love the metal flake!

erkoehler
09-30-2006, 11:02 PM
Did you get that thing out of the showroom yet? :)

Chief
09-30-2006, 11:06 PM
Yep! She's in the garage making her maiden voyage tomorrow morning! Was going out today, but got wrapped up with my neighbor selling him my Prostar. I'm going to take some pics in the morning while on the river.

I keep going to the garage to look at her!

uncleboo
09-30-2006, 11:52 PM
I don't mind the metal flake.

kalanic
10-02-2006, 10:15 AM
I love mine, I need to get a close up to see the metal flake in the sun. Its sweet when then sun hits it off the water.

mess33
10-02-2006, 01:48 PM
My boss bought a 2006 PS 197 this Summer and it is Navy metal flake with a silver metal flake accent stripe(white deck/white hull). I was surprised that you could not tell it was metal flake until you got very close to the boat. I think for flake(not my choice) it is a very sharp boat. It will be stored on a lift in our showroom for the Winter. As soon as it arrives I will take a pic and post it here.
I saw a 197 at Stengl this summer that may have been your bosses. Very cool.

Diesel
10-02-2006, 02:01 PM
Here is another shot from this past weekend.


http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5849/dsc01731av5.jpg