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cbryan70
09-05-2006, 05:47 PM
Looking to buy a ski, trying to decide between HO and connelly looking at the connelly fx1 which HO's would be compairable

88 PS190
09-05-2006, 05:59 PM
Hard to say, probably the Nitro.

F1X is the F1 with some added width to make it more suited to intermediate skiers and 34 mph, probably not as stiff as an F1.

Nitro is a system 8 with some additional width. which the system 8 is a softer, heavier Monza

But that doesn't mean they'll ride the same, the Nitro, System 8, Monza are heavy on the rocker.

cbryan70
09-05-2006, 06:00 PM
i just got prices on the fx1 and the concept directly through connelly and they are 222 for the fx1 and 216 for the concept. how big of a difference will two boots be compaired to one and the toe plate and still the question of HO vs connelly... thanks for the responses

cbryan70
09-05-2006, 06:01 PM
88 thank you for your responds....a little more lamens terms would be good, im just getting into the sport and dont know to much of the tech lingo

88 PS190
09-05-2006, 06:13 PM
I can try. Skis are made up of a few parts, the Core which is a foam, and then its wrapped in layers of either carbonfiber, fiberglass, or graphite. The core provides float and flex, and vibration absorption. Depending on the way that the core is wrapped the stiffness can change.

A stiff ski vs. less stiff is one of the things that effect the way it skis, but in general for a given weight a softer ski will turn easier and acquire more angle across course. A stiffer ski will accelerate faster through the wakes but at the cost of some turning.

Depending on how hard you ski and weight flex can be important.

The dynamics of a slalom ski should also be looked at. One of the top of the line skis such as an F1 or a Monza or even the system 8 nitro, and F1X are designed for skiers who can get up and ride the ski already, and can take cuts through the wakes and turn. They won't be stable if you are just leanring to ride a slalom but if you can get up and ski aggressively and with confidence they're great skis.

Depending on the design there are such things as "sweet spots" which are flat areas beneath the binding that provide stability and are the acceleration zone, then there's the rocker which is the shape of the ski, or the curve. Rocker creates turning when the ski is put on edge, and the more tip you have through the turn the more the ski will tend to turn aggressively, this is then adjusted by the fin, but don't bother with anything other than stock settings for a bit, as they tend to be a great starting point and will get you through a course.

Bindings, 1 or 2. that's personal preference entirely, some skiers get up with a foot out, they need one as its impossible to put on the other once up. Others like two (I like two). Issues, with some of the modern rubber binders out there its dangerous to use just one The idea being that in falls that aren't horrible but are still fairly strong the one foot won't be coming out, this can cause injury, but with two boots on in the same fall you have two legs to control the ski instead of just one, minimizing torque on your ankles, knees, and legs. With some bindings its not an issue, plain not so stiff front bindings with out laces, and even lace up bindings not tightened down too hard will still come out and in which case you can ride a rear toe plate.

In saying the monza is heavy on the rocker it turns a tight turn compared to lesser rocker skis which turn a smoother radius. Some people have more difficulty learning to ski something like the monza, and are better suited on something that will turn a larger radius smoothly

i'm sure you'll get more responses.

cbryan70
09-05-2006, 06:59 PM
THank you for that response. I think im going to stick with the connelly brand discounts arnt as good for HO about 200 dollers more. Any other responses will be appreciated! thanks

airdrew99
09-05-2006, 08:55 PM
I've always been an HO guy, but this year I tried out a Connelly F1 and really liked it. When I can get it to turn, it rides great. Definitely ski on one if you get a chance. I bought mine used for $300 and it still looked brand new (thanks Rodltg2).

88 PS190
09-05-2006, 09:15 PM
Demo it first.