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BuoyChaser
07-18-2006, 12:04 PM
lots of advertising going on for "employee pricing" and 0% financing for 72month deals from Ford, Chevy & Chrysler/Jeep...

love to get into a Jeep Commander or Jeep Liberty...liking the 5500lb towing capacity of the Jeep Liberty Diesel with 26mpg...

anyone know of any good sites to compare what dealer costs really are as well as where to find best financing deals???

jraben8
07-18-2006, 12:15 PM
Thinking about pulling with the Liberty would be great, stopping with it may be a different story... How much do they weigh?

phecksel
07-18-2006, 12:20 PM
www.edmunds.com

BuoyChaser
07-18-2006, 02:07 PM
liking the price and size of the commander...plenty of room for at least one childseat and the grandparents, 4.7L v8 has decent fuel mileage 12-18mpg in the city, and between 16 and 22 mpg on the highway...same price point as the cherokee but so much more room with the rear seats...

bepresto
07-18-2006, 02:25 PM
If You Would Like A Commander, Maybe We Could Work Something Out About Getting You One To New Hampshire. Or Maybe You Could Just Come And Visit Me In Kansas. We Have About 25 In Stock Right Now With Employee Pricing.

sanjuan23
07-18-2006, 02:39 PM
Not too knock the Commander but that back seat is almost useless IMO. And I thought that thing was supposed to resemble the old "Woody's" To me they really dont seem much bigger than a Cherokee.

BuoyChaser
07-18-2006, 02:48 PM
If You Would Like A Commander, Maybe We Could Work Something Out About Getting You One To New Hampshire. Or Maybe You Could Just Come And Visit Me In Kansas. We Have About 25 In Stock Right Now With Employee Pricing.
the son of a friend is a salesman at a local jeep, says they are practically giving away the "loaded" models...selling for less than used ones...

any recommended tips, PM me...

any suggestions on what to look for...trust this kid, but in looking for a decent tow vehicle (horse/livestock trailer, boat trailer and landscape trailer on occasion) but better yet comfort level for child seats and gear...

BuoyChaser
07-18-2006, 02:49 PM
Not too knock the Commander but that back seat is almost useless IMO. And I thought that thing was supposed to resemble the old "Woody's" To me they really dont seem much bigger than a Cherokee.
yahh big and boxy lake the old cherokees...agree back seat is almost useless but a nice option if you need it...sometimes need to take a short trip with it loaded up with people, you know those cram in the car amusument ride discounts!!! :cool:

Workin' 4 Toys
07-20-2006, 12:16 PM
Consider the 5.7, look at the mpgs across the board, when towing with the little motor, anything you saved with the 4.7will have gone out the window. IMO..... I am sorry I did not get the 5.7

BuoyChaser
07-20-2006, 12:18 PM
Consider the 5.7, look at the mpgs across the board, when towing with the little motor, anything you saved with the 4.7will have gone out the window. IMO..... I am sorry I did not get the 5.7
the jeep liberty with the CRD diesel pulls 5500lbs and is a mercedes engine...last year for chrsyler to put that into a vehicle, too expensive for them and not popular in US...

VTJC
07-20-2006, 12:40 PM
the jeep liberty with the CRD diesel pulls 5500lbs and is a mercedes engine...last year for chrsyler to put that into a vehicle, too expensive for them and not popular in US...

Wrong demand for the Liberty CRD in the US exceeded expectations and supply, the CRD in the Liberty is not a Mercedes motor. The Liberty Diesel is not being continued into 07 because of new emissions regulations. In 07 the Grand Cherokee will be offered with a Mercedes diesel.

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060601/FREE/60601001/1041/TOC01ARCHIVE

BuoyChaser
07-20-2006, 12:43 PM
Wrong demand for the Liberty CRD in the US exceeded expectations and supply, the CRD in the Liberty is not a Mercedes motor. The Liberty Diesel is not being continued into 07 because of new emissions regulations. In 07 the Grand Cherokee will be offered with a Mercedes diesel.

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060601/FREE/60601001/1041/TOC01ARCHIVE
i got some wrong information then...thanks for the tips, this is great stuff...

maybe i should wait for the 07 cherokee, will it be the same engine or a bigger diesel???

need to pull a horse trailer that is around 2500lbs and two horses that range from 1000-1300lbs, total weight of 5100lbs...

BuoyChaser
07-20-2006, 01:03 PM
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060605/FREE/60605020&template=printart

About 11,000 units of the diesel Liberty have been sold since the model went on sale in January of 2005. The company decided it would be too costy to make the Liberty's 2.8-liter engine comply with more stringent federal emission standards going into effect next year.

The engine for the upcoming diesel Grand Cherokee is a clean-burning, 3.0-liter common rail turbo unit supplied by Mercedes-Benz.

Workin' 4 Toys
07-20-2006, 01:03 PM
Liberty being replaced by the compass as I gather. Too bad it only has 2000# tow cap.

BuoyChaser
07-20-2006, 01:04 PM
Liberty being replaced by the compass as I gather. Too bad it only has 2000# tow cap.
yahh the Liberty Diesel has a 5500lb towing capacity...

Workin' 4 Toys
07-20-2006, 01:05 PM
The engine for the upcoming diesel Grand Cherokee is a clean-burning, 3.0-liter common rail turbo unit supplied by Mercedes-Benz.
I will keep a close eye on that one. BUT only a 3.0.....:eek: Oh well, they will probably make up for it with a 6 speed auto or something

bepresto
07-20-2006, 02:52 PM
The Compass Is Not Replacing The Liberty. Jeep Is Just Adding Another Vehicle Model To The Fleet. Buoy If You Are Looking To Pull Other Trailers And Need The Cargo Room, Then I Would Tell You To Go With The Commander With The 5.7 Hemi V8. You Will Have The Option Of The Third Row Seat, (but I Would Not Put Any Adults Back There) And When You Do Not Need The 3rd Row Then Just Leave The Seats Down, And You Have Plenty Of Cargo Room. Trust Me When You Are Just Driving Around With The 3rd Row Seat Up And Their Headrest Up, You Barely Have Any Viewing Perspective Out The Rear Of The Vehicle.

BuoyChaser
07-20-2006, 03:00 PM
The Compass Is Not Replacing The Liberty. Jeep Is Just Adding Another Vehicle Model To The Fleet. Buoy If You Are Looking To Pull Other Trailers And Need The Cargo Room, Then I Would Tell You To Go With The Commander With The 5.7 Hemi V8. You Will Have The Option Of The Third Row Seat, (but I Would Not Put Any Adults Back There) And When You Do Not Need The 3rd Row Then Just Leave The Seats Down, And You Have Plenty Of Cargo Room. Trust Me When You Are Just Driving Around With The 3rd Row Seat Up And Their Headrest Up, You Barely Have Any Viewing Perspective Out The Rear Of The Vehicle.
but the price is about 1/2 with the libery and employee pricing...i agree the extra cargo room and feel is much nicer on the commander but the price is a huge difference...still plenty of storage room in the liberty and can always add the basket on the roof...

any suggestions to get the dealer to throw anything in, indicate employee pricing is as low as they can go right now...need to get a hitch on it...

a little noisy but as quiet as a Golf TDI, which is nice...mercedes diesels last forever...

bepresto
07-21-2006, 04:29 PM
the dealer gets a little kick back from the manufacturer, but not much. we have basically no room to move from the emplyee pricing.

Workin' 4 Toys
07-21-2006, 10:25 PM
I could be wrong, but weren't the commanders at a $10,000 rebate just but 2 or 3 months ago?

BuoyChaser
07-22-2006, 12:42 AM
the dealer gets a little kick back from the manufacturer, but not much. we have basically no room to move from the emplyee pricing.
got a free trailer hitch thrown in for sealing the deal last night, so that's like a $450, so the dealer said...

we're happy...loving the atlantic blue color...but need to get some mud flaps...any good place online to order jeep accessories for less than dealer price???

Workin' 4 Toys
07-22-2006, 05:32 PM
Quadratec (http://www.quadratec.com)
4WD (http://www.4wd.com/newsite/default.asp)
Not for the faint of heart:D (http://www.currieenterprises.com)

Workin' 4 Toys
07-22-2006, 05:33 PM
got a free trailer hitch thrown in for sealing the deal last night, so that's like a $450, so the dealer said...

we're happy...loving the atlantic blue color...but need to get some mud flaps...any good place online to order jeep accessories for less than dealer price???
Did you get the liberty or commander?

BuoyChaser
07-23-2006, 05:24 PM
Did you get the liberty or commander?
got the liberty diesel limited, nice ride...will post a picture one of these days...no hitch yet, dealer didn't have time and wanted to drive home friday...so will let everyone know how it pulls the boat at some point!!!

BuoyChaser
07-23-2006, 05:54 PM
Quadratec (http://www.quadratec.com)
4WD (http://www.4wd.com/newsite/default.asp)
Not for the faint of heart:D (http://www.currieenterprises.com)
these are great links, but check this one out for the latest gear especially for the liberty http://www.rocky-road.com