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sten76
07-18-2006, 08:51 AM
Does anyone have any information on a possible 2008 S&S? Is one going to be available? If so, what hull? When will they usually be available?

Would love to start planning for one.

TMCNo1
07-18-2006, 10:01 AM
It's really too early to tell and if so, I don't think MC would be telling this soon, but I would suspect if history is a clue, that MC would introduce some type Limited Edition Boat for the 40th Anniversary year, by producing only [40], like they did in 1988 [20], 1993 [25], 1998 [30], 2003 [35]. The boats would likely start production sometime after August/September, next year, 2007. In 1993 they not only made the Silver Metalflake Limited Edition 25th Anniversary boat, but the had the special order Stars/Stripes in Blue and Red Metalflake.
On September 13, 2002, MasterCraft unveiled to the general public, the 2003 35th Anniversary Limited Edition boat at the Mastercraft 35th Anniversary Homecoming and Boat Owner Reunion during the banquet and awards ceremony at the factory in Vonore, TN. The future will tell!

Workin' 4 Toys
07-18-2006, 10:14 AM
That would be sweet to see an '08 in steve's color scheme.
Might change my view on some things in the future.:D

VTJC
07-18-2006, 10:54 AM
I bet we see an anniversary X-Star as well as a Prostar. Jamie

BuoyChaser
07-18-2006, 11:06 AM
I bet we see an anniversary X-Star as well as a Prostar. Jamie
like an X-7 and 197 S&S...would love to see the classic stripes, the new hull really would show the stripe quite nice!!!

erkoehler
07-18-2006, 11:07 AM
Don't think there will be an anniversary X-Star, ICBW.

betsy&david Harrison
07-19-2006, 11:06 PM
It's really too early to tell and if so, I don't think MC would be telling this soon, but I would suspect if history is a clue, that MC would introduce some type Limited Edition Boat for the 40th Anniversary year, by producing only [40], like they did in 1988 [20], 1993 [25], 1998 [30], 2003 [35]. The boats would likely start production sometime after August/September, next year, 2007. In 1993 they not only made the Silver Metalflake Limited Edition 25th Anniversary boat, but the had the special order Stars/Stripes in Blue and Red Metalflake.
On September 13, 2002, MasterCraft unveiled to the general public, the 2003 35th Anniversary Limited Edition boat at the Mastercraft 35th Anniversary Homecoming and Boat Owner Reunion during the banquet and awards ceremony at the factory in Vonore, TN. The future will tell!
did they really make only 25 boats in 1993 (of the S&S 25th Anniversary)? If so were they numbered? Did they make 25 Red and another 25 Blue? Just curious because I own one (Blue). B

ski_king
07-19-2006, 11:10 PM
did they really make only 25 boats in 1993 (of the S&S 25th Anniversary)? If so were they numbered? Did they make 25 Red and another 25 Blue? Just curious because I own one (Blue). B
I think the true anniversery model was the Platinum Prostar, silver metalflake closer to the standard graphics package. The S&S was a complete different option package that was available. (ICBW)

I scanned a picture of the 93 Limited Prostar from the 93 brochure and have it on here somewhere.

betsy&david Harrison
07-19-2006, 11:14 PM
I seem to remember that but I figured since someone asked about the 2008 model and #1 stated something about the S&S in his post, that he was referring to the S&S models. ICBW too. B

ski_king
07-19-2006, 11:18 PM
#1 is usually correct, but you have to watch out because sometines he sniffs a little too much teak oil and he memory get cloudy.:rolleyes:
But his teak platform looks great!:D

Oh yea, the 93 S&S looks much better that the 93 Limited Prostar in my opinion. Red or blue, it dosent matter.

betsy&david Harrison
07-19-2006, 11:27 PM
I reread his post. He says that the Blue and Red were special order. I seem to remember hearing that they made 2 for each of the continental states. I think I got that info from California Skier in Riverside, Ca. B

MYMC
07-20-2006, 08:38 AM
Don't think there will be an anniversary X-Star, ICBW.
I'll go all in on an anniversary X-Star for 2008...and might even go so far as to say I doubt there will be an anniversary ProStar. I could be wrong on the last part but I'll bet the farm on the X-Star.

G-man
07-20-2006, 09:15 AM
I know several MC sales people were upset when there was only a 197 anniversary edition for the 35th, but I wonder why if you are doing a anniversary edition why would you do the x-star only. It wouldn't be that much more work to do a 197 also. I don't get the fishing boat either, maybe that could be a anniversary edition also.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
07-20-2006, 09:18 AM
Now how can they NOT build a 40th anniv boat? thats rediculous! WHy wouldnt they want to offer a special edition boat? Dont you guys think it will sell??

what gives?

I would have to sell my house to buy a new boat so I am out, but I am sure there would be 40 people out there who couldnt get their wallet out fast enough for a 40th. Just my opinion, but I could be wrong.....

MYMC
07-20-2006, 09:29 AM
Before everyone gets all up tight, remember that MC sells alot more "wake oriented" boats than slalom boats. If you wanted to cause a "demand" for a special edition wouldn't it be easier to justify the premium to 2000 buyers as opposed to 700? Also maybe they will do both; however, they have never celebrated the X-Stars success and to be honest you have to wonder where the company would be without it. :twocents:

G-man
07-20-2006, 09:46 AM
Before everyone gets all up tight, remember that MC sells alot more "wake oriented" boats than slalom boats. If you wanted to cause a "demand" for a special edition wouldn't it be easier to justify the premium to 2000 buyers as opposed to 700? Also maybe they will do both; however, they have never celebrated the X-Stars success and to be honest you have to wonder where the company would be without it. :twocents:

If they only did a "wake oriented" anniversary they would be forgeting there wouldn't be an anniversary without their history and start in the "ski oriented" world. Do both and keep your customers happy.

ski_king
07-20-2006, 09:59 AM
I think the would be missing the "boat" if they didn't offer both.

You can see from this thread and a few others on here the is a lot of anticipation.

Ric
07-20-2006, 10:00 AM
I like the anniversary fishing boat idea George! :purplaugh

stevo137
07-20-2006, 10:06 AM
I think the true anniversery model was the Platinum Prostar, silver metalflake closer to the standard graphics package. The S&S was a complete different option package that was available. (ICBW)

I scanned a picture of the 93 Platinum Prostar from the 93 brochure and have it on here somewhere.

93 Limited. 25 made. Note the metalflake on the trailer.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/stevo137/DSCN0678.jpg

east tx skier
07-20-2006, 10:09 AM
I know several MC sales people were upset when there was only a 197 anniversary edition for the 40th, but I wonder why if you are doing a anniversary edition why would you do the x-star only. It wouldn't be that much more work to do a 197 also. I don't get the fishing boat either, maybe that could be a anniversary edition also.

George, did you mean 35th? The past tense on 40th anniversary has got me confused. If you meant 35th, there were some S&S 190s. There's one on boat trader now. It was also in the 2003 WSM boat buyer's guide.

http://images.traderonline.com/img/6/dealer/1521243/80119684_1.jpg

Betsy, the 190 Limited (silver metalflake not to be confused with the 88 Platinum Pro Star) was the limited production (only 25 made) boat in 93. The Stars & Stripes boats were approximately $700 options offered through about July of 93 or so.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
07-20-2006, 10:19 AM
IMO the anniversary honors the heritage and history of the company, so therefore it should honor their roots. Thus I think an anniversary boat should be an prostar, preferably closed bow. I think the type of buyer that would be movtivated to buy an anniversary edition boat would be someone that cares about the heritage of the company and has been a fan of it for a long time. I totally understand that X boats are very popular and are now MC's main sellers. But I dont think a X star customer would be into the "anniversary" concept as much because X boats are "new school". Of course I am biased because I am all about closed bow ski boats. but I think the anniversary concept is best suited for a traditional ski boat, the thing that started the company in the first place.

Side note: ever see the VH1 story tellers for Def Leppard where the fan asked Joe Elliot why they didnt play any of their old songs like "wasted" and that from the first album? Joe Replied that they didnt need them songs anymore, that the songs were like the bottom section of an Apollo rocket, you need it to get off the ground, but then its not important anymore. The crowd boo'd him. and then Phil ripped into the intro guitar riff to "wasted" the crowd went nuts and Joe stopped him. You cant forget your roots, no matter what.

G-man
07-20-2006, 10:21 AM
[QUOTE=east tx skier]George, did you mean 35th? QUOTE]

Yup 35th correction made

in 93 there was a limitied editon run of 25 boats with the metalflake. There was an option package called the "Stars and Stripes" edition about 300 were made. 6 were sold in Texas, 2 were red.

east tx skier
07-20-2006, 10:22 AM
George, is the other red one still in Texas or do you know?

Ric
07-20-2006, 10:23 AM
Great analogy.... I think maybe School of Rock was written about ump..

stevo137
07-20-2006, 10:28 AM
[QUOTE=east tx skier]George, did you mean 35th? QUOTE]

Yup 35th correction made

in 93 there was a limitied editon run of 25 boats with the metalflake. There was an option package called the "Stars and Stripes" edition about 300 were made. 6 were sold in Texas, 2 were red.
Did you guys see my pic of a Limited on page 2?
I had discussions with the owner last year and that boat is like it just came off of the showroom.

east tx skier
07-20-2006, 10:33 AM
Yup, she's a real beauty. You should have more discussions with that owner.

G-man
07-20-2006, 10:38 AM
George, is the other red one still in Texas or do you know?
It was at Lago Sante Fe 2 years ago, maybe someone from there can comment?

stevo137
07-20-2006, 10:44 AM
A few more of the 93 Limited. first year for the Lt1.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/stevo137/Prostar_Engine.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/stevo137/Prostar_Interior.jpg

Beautiful boat but I still think that the Red or Blue S&S captures the essence of MC's roots and would like to see the tradition continue on the 2008.

betsy&david Harrison
07-20-2006, 11:02 AM
Here is one for you boys...

You guys know that my boat is the Blue Metal Flake 93. One of my dear children or an adult put a scratch in the blue flake area. Did they make a touch up paint for that year? B

G-man
07-20-2006, 11:31 AM
no touch up paint but a blue sharpie can disguise a scratch, don't laugh it works.

TMCNo1
07-20-2006, 01:14 PM
[QUOTE=betsy&david Harrison]did they really make only 25 boats in 1993 (of the S&S 25th Anniversary)? If so were they numbered? Did they make 25 Red and another 25 Blue? Just curious because I own one (Blue). B[/QUOTE

They made [25] '93 Limited Edition Anniversary boats, with the large silver metalflake and small red metalflake stripe with white hull and deck, along with a lot of special anniversary goodies that came with the boat including the LT-1 std and was loaded so there were practically no options. They were distributed to the dealers in a lottery system, same as 2003. The red and blue metalflake S/S's were special order boats that dealers could order for stock and customers could order from the dealers, with the normal list of options. I don't have any idea how many were produced in each color, but the S/S were not numbered like the limited boats were. There was more demand for the S/S than the Limited edition boats, mainly because of price.

ski_king
07-20-2006, 01:27 PM
I think the 06 TT-197 is close to what I would consider perfect.

Just change the stripe slightly to include a pinstripe top and bottom of the main strip, then add the mid-80 MasterCraft font and stars.
It would look better if the stripe was the same width the entire length, but that wouldnt work with the existing hull.

Maybe reverse the colors with a basic white and red metalflake stripe, since I don't think a white metalflake stripe would look quite right.

G-man
07-20-2006, 01:31 PM
[quote=betsy&david Harrison]did they really make only 25 boats in 1993 (of the S&S 25th Anniversary)? If so were they numbered? Did they make 25 Red and another 25 Blue? Just curious because I own one (Blue). B[/QUOTE

I was told by a couple different people at MC there were about 300 S&S made in 93. Most had a matching carpet to metelflake color interior. A few hulls were grey with the metal flake color and grey carpet.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
07-20-2006, 01:36 PM
Ski King, your making me drool now with posting a TT boat. Dream dream dream UMP.......all I can do is dream.......Someday I want one of those......but I dont know if I will ever be able to swing one.....

T5_Steve
07-20-2006, 01:54 PM
Not sure if this is a threadjack but...

Did M/C build any Anniversary or Limited Edition or S&S PS205's with metalflake? Also, were any '03 PS197's built with metalflake S&S? I really like the metalflake S&S's and I'm partial to blue, but I need the open bow.

betsy&david Harrison
07-20-2006, 02:08 PM
no touch up paint but a blue sharpie can disguise a scratch, don't laugh it works.
Great Idea! thanks

east tx skier
07-20-2006, 02:11 PM
Not sure if this is a threadjack but...

Did M/C build any Anniversary or Limited Edition or S&S PS205's with metalflake? Also, were any '03 PS197's built with metalflake S&S? I really like the metalflake S&S's and I'm partial to blue, but I need the open bow.

I don't think there were any 205 with S&S Packages (at least not that I've seen). I've never seen a metalflake one either.

As far as I know, all of the 2003 Anniversary boats were black with the silver graphics and stainless running gear.

G-man
07-20-2006, 02:20 PM
There are some 93 205,s with metalflake in Arkansas Joe W has one, not a S&S but it does have some stars and a LT-1

east tx skier
07-20-2006, 02:29 PM
Is it the band with white stripes pattern or the standard rearward swoosh like my boat has?

T5_Steve
07-20-2006, 02:45 PM
There are some 93 205,s with metalflake in Arkansas Joe W has one, not a S&S but it does have some stars and a LT-1

Is it for sale? Are there pics of Joe W's 205 on this site?

G-man
07-20-2006, 02:56 PM
no photos on the board he owns MC Boats of Arkansas, you could call there, it's in Conway AR

stevo137
07-20-2006, 03:10 PM
I think the 06 TT-197 is close to what I would consider perfect.

Just change the stripe slightly to include a pinstripe top and bottom of the main strip, then add the mid-80 MasterCraft font and stars.
It would look better if the stripe was the same width the entire length, but that wouldnt work with the existing hull.

Maybe reverse the colors with a basic white and red metalflake stripe, since I don't think a white metalflake stripe would look quite right.
Now that is a great looking boat. I too like white hull with red detail.

TMCNo1
07-20-2006, 04:21 PM
no photos on the board he owns MC Boats of Arkansas, you could call there, it's in Conway AR




Phone # 1-877-MCBOATS [622-6287] or 1-501-513-2628
MC of Arkansas, 355 J.R. Drive, Conway, Ark 72032